Dealing With Spiders/Bots/Crawlers
I'm at an odd crossroads here. Up until now, I've kept my application off-limits to search engines. I've used a couple of techniques found on Ben Nadel's blog for giving them short sessions and such. Been working well. With respect to human users, I've been VERY diligent about using URLSessionFormat to keep session variables across page requests with cookies disabled. Also been working well. So here's my quandary - I now want open up my application to allow search engines to index. However, I've got session variables embedded everywhere in my URLs due to URLSessionFormat()! So what's going to occur is this: the robots will grab all of these URLs, index them, then pass them as hijacked sessions through their results and I won't be able to track new visitors! I just ran across a recent mention by Michael Dinowitz of a technique for setting CFID and CFToken to 1 whenever it's a bot, mentioned here: http://www.anujgakhar.com/2010/01/26/what-is-the-best-way-to-deal-with-spidersbotscrawlers/ Bottom line: how can I make the URLs NOT pass the session management variables when it's a search engine? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330385 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Dealing with Spiders/Bots/Crawlers
I'm at an odd crossroads here. Up until now, I've kept my application off-limits to search engines. I've used a couple of techniques found on Ben Nadel's blog for giving them short sessions and such. Been working well. With respect to human users, I've been VERY diligent about using URLSessionFormat to keep session variables across page requests with cookies disabled. Also been working well. So here's my quandary - I now want open up my application to allow search engines to index. However, I've got session variables embedded everywhere in my URLs due to URLSessionFormat()! So what's going to occur is this: the robots will grab all of these URLs, index them, then pass them as hijacked sessions through their results and I won't be able to track new visitors! I just ran across a recent mention by Michael Dinowitz of a technique for setting CFID and CFToken to 1 whenever it's a bot, mentioned here: http://www.anujgakhar.com/2010/01/26/what-is-the-best-way-to-deal-with-spidersbotscrawlers/ Bottom line: how can I make the URLs NOT pass the session management variables when it's a search engine? Bob Hendren President/CEO ListingWare, Inc. http://www.listingware.com 800-867-4707 bhend...@listingware.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330387 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Dealing With Spiders/Bots/Crawlers
First, sorry for dual post earlier. Second, not a stupid question about cookies, but just trying to deal with the possibility that a user has cookies turned off. I'm using URLSessionFormat on all of my links to pass their session info around so the system isn't constantly treating them like a new user. By the way, I say MY application because I wrote it, but it's a service we provide as a plugin to other websites. So, we have to try and make things as open as possible for all of my users' users. This may be a stupid question, but are cookies really not an option for your site users? I would only be passing session ids around the URL as a last resort. I mean, it _is_ 2010 and cookies are kind of the standard for maintaining session. (Note: they preclude the necessity of putting session info in all your URLs) There are other pitfalls with placing the session IDs in every URL other than bot traffic: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/172/tn_17255.html ~Brad Bottom line: how can I make the URLs NOT pass the session management variables when it's a search engine? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:330389 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
ColdFusion Client Variables - HITCOUNT
Here's an oldie but a goodie: I long ago drank the Kool-Aid on Client variables being stored in a DB and disabling global client variable updates. No problems there. But I'm just wondering when exactly are HITCOUNT and LVISIT updated in this situation? Is it on the first page of a return visit? If so, exactly how does CF determine a 'return' visit? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325988 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
ColdFusion Client Variables
Here's an oldie but a goodie: I long ago drank the Kool-Aid on Client variables being stored in a DB and disabling global client variable updates. No problems there. But I'm just wondering when exactly are HITCOUNT and LVISIT updated in this situation? Is it on the first page of a return visit? If so, exactly how does CF determine a 'return' visit? -- Bob Hendren President/CEO ListingWare, Inc. Phone/Fax: 800.867.4707 Email: bhend...@listingware.com http://smartcall.me/bobhendren ListingWare Support: supp...@listingware.com ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325968 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF 8.0.1 Update and CFMENU
I asked this over the weekend, but didn't see any responses. Anyone have ANY clues? Thanks! -- Bob Hendren President/CEO ListingWare, Inc. http://www.listingware.com 800-867-4707 x 706 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bob Hendren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 8.0.1 Update and CFMENU Has anyone experience trouble with CFMENU since the 8.0.1 Updater? I've noticed a few of things: 1) The submenu indicator arrow appears beneath the display text in a vertical menu in Internet Explorer. 2) There seems to be an improperly nested DIV that causes a thick top border in vertical format. 3) The TYPE attribute for 'vertical' or 'horizontal' MUST be lowercase - 'Vertical/Horizontal' or 'VERTICAL/HORIZONTAL' cause it to render incorrect. 4) If I use an image in a top-level CFMENUITEM, it will also try to display that same image as part of a group of child CFMENUITEMs, so that if there are 5 child items, a single image of the parent menu item will display once for all 5 items. (It's obviously not supposed to be there, because as you mouseover the child menu items, the mouseover color appears over the image.) 5) An underline now appears for the active menu item. The behavior of having a mouseover color for the active menu item is desired, and I supposed I could live with the underline, but I'd rather not. There could be others, but I was SO bummed! The update fixed a couple of things that were a problem, but introduced other issues! I might be able to solve a couple of these by tinkering with the YUI CSS, but a couple are clearly beyond that. One thing that DOES seem to be fixed is the odd behavior you got on a horizontal menu, where it would be rendered vertically (mostly in IE) to begin with, then resolve to horizontal - it was a weird and distracting behavior, but seems OK now. -- Bob Hendren President/CEO ListingWare, Inc. http://www.listingware.com http://www.listingware.com/ 800-867-4707 x 706 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:303275 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF 8.0.1 Update and CFMENU
Bhakti -
Thanks for the reply. I've gone through your responses and provided further
info of my own below, denoted by .
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President/CEO
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http://www.listingware.com
800-867-4707 x 706
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-Original Message-
From: Bhakti Pingale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 8.0.1 Update and CFMENU
Hi Bob,
Please find my comments inline.
Hope these inputs help you.
Thanks for your feedback.
Thanks,
Bhakti
-Original Message-
From: Bob Hendren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 8.0.1 Update and CFMENU
Has anyone experience trouble with CFMENU since the 8.0.1 Updater? I've
noticed a few of things:
1) The submenu indicator arrow appears beneath the display text in a
vertical menu in Internet Explorer.
- Setting the menu width appropriately should solve this problem for you. I
am however not able to repro this one. May be you can give me some more
inputs.
Try viewing http://lw1dbserver1.listingware.com in IE and then another
browser. The vertical menu on the left side has the submenu indicators
underneath the text. A horizontal menu in a similar site is rendering
properly.
2) There seems to be an improperly nested DIV that causes a thick top
border in vertical format.
- We did a YUI upgrade in CF 8.0.1 because of which there have been small
little UI changes. This is one of them.
I am not too sure if I have understood you perfectly, but I also see a
border added which can be removed.Under the
/CFIDE/scripts/ajax/resources/yui/yui.css file, the line border-width (as
shown below) has to be changed to border-width:0 0 0 0;
...yuimenu ul {
list-style-type:none;
border:solid 1px #c4c4be;
border-width:1px 0 0 0;
margin:0;
padding:4px 0;
}
If this is not the one you are talking about then could you please explain
it again so that I can give you a workaround.
This did fix the issue.
3) The TYPE attribute for 'vertical' or 'horizontal' MUST be lowercase
-
'Vertical/Horizontal' or 'VERTICAL/HORIZONTAL' cause it to render incorrect.
-Agreed. I will log a bug for this one.
OK, thanks. I can live without images until fixed.
4) If I use an image in a top-level CFMENUITEM, it will also try to display
that same image as part of a group of child CFMENUITEMs, so that if there
are 5 child items, a single image of the parent menu item will display once
for all 5 items. (It's obviously not supposed to be there, because as you
mouseover the child menu items, the mouseover color appears over the
image.)
- This one is a known bug. I guess we have documented it.
5) An underline now appears for the active menu item. The behavior of
having a mouseover color for the active menu item is desired, and I supposed
I could live with the underline, but I'd rather not.
- This again is because of the YUI upgrade. The workaround is as follows.
The css change is required to correct the underline issue
Under the /CFIDE/scripts/ajax/resources/yui/yui.css file, the line
text-decoration has to be taken off
...yuimenuitem a.selected,
...yuimenubaritem a.selected {
background-color:#AADEFF;
text-decoration:underline;
color:#fff;
}
I did this, but it's still a problem. If you View Source on that same web
site, you see the statement where the YUI CSS file is included, then
directly after it is a new STYLE statement that had never been there before.
That seems to be where the underline is coming from. I found that if I took
all attributes except type=vertical out of the CFMENU declaration, the new
STYLE element went away and so did the underline. However, the submenu
indicator issue from above still exists.
There could be others, but I was SO bummed! The update fixed a couple of
things that were a problem, but introduced other issues! I might be able to
solve a couple of these by tinkering with the YUI CSS, but a couple are
clearly beyond that.
One thing that DOES seem to be fixed is the odd behavior you got on a
horizontal menu, where it would be rendered vertically (mostly in IE) to
begin with, then resolve to horizontal - it was a weird and distracting
behavior, but seems OK now.
--
Bob Hendren
President/CEO
ListingWare, Inc.
http://www.listingware.com http://www.listingware.com/
800-867-4707 x 706
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CF 8.0.1 Update and CFMENU
Has anyone experience trouble with CFMENU since the 8.0.1 Updater? I've noticed a few of things: 1) The submenu indicator arrow appears beneath the display text in a vertical menu in Internet Explorer. 2) There seems to be an improperly nested DIV that causes a thick top border in vertical format. 3) The TYPE attribute for 'vertical' or 'horizontal' MUST be lowercase - 'Vertical/Horizontal' or 'VERTICAL/HORIZONTAL' cause it to render incorrect. 4) If I use an image in a top-level CFMENUITEM, it will also try to display that same image as part of a group of child CFMENUITEMs, so that if there are 5 child items, a single image of the parent menu item will display once for all 5 items. (It's obviously not supposed to be there, because as you mouseover the child menu items, the mouseover color appears over the image.) 5) An underline now appears for the active menu item. The behavior of having a mouseover color for the active menu item is desired, and I supposed I could live with the underline, but I'd rather not. There could be others, but I was SO bummed! The update fixed a couple of things that were a problem, but introduced other issues! I might be able to solve a couple of these by tinkering with the YUI CSS, but a couple are clearly beyond that. One thing that DOES seem to be fixed is the odd behavior you got on a horizontal menu, where it would be rendered vertically (mostly in IE) to begin with, then resolve to horizontal - it was a weird and distracting behavior, but seems OK now. -- Bob Hendren President/CEO ListingWare, Inc. http://www.listingware.com http://www.listingware.com/ 800-867-4707 x 706 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:303229 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8
Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem. After starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load. (It's a 2 cpu - 4 core system.) Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start loading very sluggishly. This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made any code changes since upgrading. Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light. I have had this EXACT problem! Have you found a solution? A fire-breathing, quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird! Anyone seen this, or have any ideas. BTW, I'm running the standard edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:294762 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ImageMagick - anyone use with CF?
I've used it with the CFEXECUTE tag, but that's about it. Works great there. - Bob Hendren President and CEO ListingWare Web: http://www.listingware.com Direct: 770-836-3231 Toll Free: 800-867-4707 ext. 102 Fax: 800-867-4707 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Scott Weikert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ImageMagick - anyone use with CF? I found some references to an image manipulation toolset, called ImageMagick (http://www.imagemagick.org/). This looks like JUST the thing I need for a project I'm working on. However, on the site, there's no mention of it's usage with CF, or whether it's even a doable thing. Anyone out there in CF-Talk-land use ImageMagick with CF? If so, could you describe your experiences with it, both as far as interfacing with CF, and the toolset's abilities? Thanks in advance, --Scott ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: What's the difference?
It is not 'wrong' to not provide the attribute scope, but if you don't, you're leaving it up to CF to figure it out. By providing it yourself, you take away any doubt as to whether you're referring to URL.variablename or Form.variablename, for example. - Bob Hendren BrainKeepers E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems 404-375-2258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What's the difference? I don't understand if you are saying that I'm wrong or if you are saying that it won't find the variable if you don't put the attribute scope. Either is totally possible, so please let me know, just for the record. At 01:29 PM 4/19/00 -0500, you wrote: The server does not implicitly look in the attribute scope. The scope search order is : 1) local 2) CGI 3) File 4) URL 5) Form 6) Cookie 7) Client -Original Message- From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What's the difference? At 10:18 AM 4/19/00 -0700, you wrote: What's the difference between saying attributes.fuseaction or just saying fuseaction? Just saying fuseaction is supposed to take longer because the server has to search the scopes to find the variable. With the variable scoped, it knows where it look. --- - -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: commenting a processing hog???
It will probably depend on if you're using CF or standard HTML comments (three dashes vs. two at beginning and end of comment) and if there are cfoutput/cfoutput blocks around the commented code also. If you practice putting cfoutput at the top of the document and /cfoutput at the bottom, CF will have to look at every character. Placing each CFOUTPUT optimally and using CF comments (!---CF comment---) will help. - Bob Hendren BrainKeepers E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems 404-375-2258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mike Amburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 4:15 PM To: Cf-Talk Subject: commenting a processing hog??? in the past, we encouraged developers to comment their code as often as possible. however, after running a few tests between a page with a lot (20-30 lines of comments) of comments aginst the same page without the comments, the performance of the latter is about a 100% gain. i was under the impression that you could add as many lines of comment as you wanted without affecting performance at all. is this incorrect? ,ole -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Scriptable Advanced Security Administration, Part Deux
It's not clear yet, but I'm starting to see a vague outline in the fog... Here is the answer I received on Allaire's Forums: You can script advanced security using the CFADMINSECURITY tag. Unfortunately, this tag has not yet been documented. You can figure it out fairly easily, though by calling it in a template and not passing any attributes to it. This will give you a list of attributes. You should be able to take it from there with some experimentation. You can also see that the tag exists if you log into the CF Administrator and go to the Basic Security tab. You will see the tag listed as one that you can disable from the administrator. I took the advice and created a dummy page and played with the tag. What I've been able to do so far is extract the required attributes for each type of ACTION attribute. You can play with it from there. Obviously, you'll have to understand something of the Advanced Security concepts for this to work. Here is what I found. Good luck! http://www.mindspring.com/~rhendren/cfadminsecurity.htm -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF
My opinion is that the CFSCHEDULE method is going to be the best. Not many POP servers are going to have the ability to perform a command when a message is received, which is what you are saying you'd like to do. I had great luck with creating a script that ran every 15 minutes and checked mailboxes for content and then acted on them. It never seemed to tax the server and the volume ranged from 10-15 per day up to 200-250 per day. My one caution is to make sure you consider ALL of the possible results in contents of the message, i.e., looking for the subject, the body, certain To or From, etc. - Bob Hendren BrainKeepers E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems 404-375-2258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Leong Yew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Automatically Processing Email in CF Hi, I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing. Does anyone know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every time it receives a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed? Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox periodically as the only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few messages a day. If I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and then run the CF script? Thanks in advance. Leong Yew -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF
This is a good solution, but to me there are a couple of issues: Does this have to be a real-time execution or can it be near-real-time? If it has to be real-time, then Ron's suggestion will have to be used. You just have to hope that the mail system you're using supports it. That leads to the second issue - the mail system supporting it. It has to be one capable of the command execution and the method described below can get convoluted. The CFSCHEDULE method will be portable to any POP server, again assuming that it doesn't have to be real-time (unless you set the schedule to check every minute!). So, as usual, more than one way to skin an email message! Just pick what suits. - Bob Hendren BrainKeepers E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems 404-375-2258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Automatically Processing Email in CF I've got an unresolved question regarding e-mail processing. Does anyone know how to set up a particular POP3 mailbox so that every time it receives a message a particular ColdFusion script is executed? Some individuals suggested (at Allaire's discussion forum) the use CFSCHEDULE/CFPOP to schedule CF to check POP3 mailbox periodically as the only way. I'm not convinced. Besides that unnecessarily uses up system resources especially if that mailbox receives only a few messages a day. If I'm on a shared virtual hosting plan is there anyway I can specially configure the mail server to monitor for incoming email and then run the CF script? It depends on your mailserver, but most (SendMail, Imail for sure) have what's called "program aliases", which are addresses that trigger a command-line executable when a message is received to them. The quick and dirty way to trigger a ColdFusion template is to hit a shortcut file to IE with a ColdFusion URL. When a message hits that program alias, you'll see a little IE window pop up, and your ColdFusion script will be run. (As a side note, these program aliases write the entire message file to disk, and pass that filename as the first parameter to whatever application is called.) The better way is to script something with Perl or write a little executable with Delphi that hits the ColdFusion template, so you're not launching IE every time it gets hit. But if the volume of hits will be relatively low (say, under 4 or 5 per minute), then the IE method works fine. hth, ron allen hornbaker õ¿õ¬ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]~ humankind systems, inc. http://humankindsystems.com/LoftCam -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRstsbodyRsts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: banner ad weighting....
I thought about this a couple of weeks ago as a two-stage issue. First, you could setup your weighting percentages and any leftover unused spaces. Then you could create a memory structure to hold the next n number of banners (100, 1000, 10K) and randomly populate that according to the weighting percentages. This sounded good to me because you're dividing the load up - the serving of the banners is accomplished by walking through the memory array that is created and the randomizing of the banners is done periodically when that memory array runs out. This was all in my head - not actually put in practice yet! Just opinion so far. Let me know what you think. - Bob Hendren BrainKeepers E-Commerce - Internetworking - Information Systems 404-375-2258 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Tom Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: banner ad weighting How about an array or look-up table. I did this successfully with a Monte Carlo simulation I wrote to address queing theory. Was that a dry project. Tom At 10:01 PM 4/12/00, you wrote: Hello All, I plan to offer banner ads on our Fusioneers.com web site ASAP. I don't want to use any of the canned scripts from the developer's exchange for various reasons that I don't want to dwell on here. The way the banner displays are going to work is this All Fusioneers.com partners are entitled to a free banner ad on our site. People who pay a monthly fee will obviously be given a far greater weighting factor than the freebies. So, our plan was to do something like the following: All freebie ads combined would account for 1% of the total weighting factor. We would then sell off weights in blocks of 10%, 20% and 30% of impressions until the maximum of a 100% has been reached. The unsold weight blocks would display a "Your Ad Here" ad. So, in other words, when we display the ads, they will be called at random, but I want the weights to affect their odds of being displayed. Hopefully this makes sense. By the way, for the person who figures out the best solution, we'll give you a 30% block of the 1st month's banner ad weighting absolutely free as our way of saying thank you. ---mark -- Mark Warrick Phone: (714) 547-5386 Efax.com Fax: (801) 730-7289 Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal URL: http://www.warrick.net Business Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Business URL: http://www.fusioneers.com ICQ: 346566 -- --- --- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarstsbodysts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. Thomas J. Forbes Forbes Consulting TEL: 407-772-3427 FAX: 407-772-3428 http://www.medmatrix.com MedMatrix Medical Equipment Portal -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
