RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Sorry to that you see it that way. Perhaps we can change your mind. The combination of J2EE + CFMX gives you an environment that can scale across the full spectrum of projects, from the smallest web form to the biggest mission-critical enterprise application. And you also get true cross-platform deployment and industry-leading rich client technology that is light years ahead of anything else out there. We think the ColdFusion MX + J2EE application servers (like JRun!) combo delivers all the technology that an enterprise needs, and offers critical flexibility than you don't get going with a single vendor. Having said all that, we think .NET is important infrastructure technology and we will continue to offer products that integrate with and take advantage of it. Hence the COM and web services support in CFMX, the .NET support in Flash Remoting MX, etc. At the end of the day, we're not religious about this platform or that platform, we just want to pragmatically solve customer problems. We believe that as you really dig into the details, you'll find that continuing to have ColdFusion in your mix will pay off in the long run. Jeff W. -Original Message- From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? Interesting to find some of this out. We are in a position that I think many organizations are in. We've been priamrilly a CF house for well over 2 years and we purchased MX enterprise but have yet to install it because of the growing popularity of .NET . I really enjoy CF and love what I can do with it and how fast I can develop with it but... I think that our IT director along with a good part of me is feeling pressure to switch over to .NET entirely. The biggest reason is .NET's ability to allow us to develop for a multitude of enviroments... Thin client, clinet server, web based etc... This will allow our organization to have all of their programmers working on the same platform thus creating an internal community where everyone can help everyone else out and learn from each other.. While CF is a great product, it can not offer this type of standardization to us. I am a strong believer in CF and will continue to use it for development for my personal business sites as well as any development I contract but in a corporate enviroment where many different applications are being developed and supported, I have no solid reasons as to why we shouldn't switch to .NET KP -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 7:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this. Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial list of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/ Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world, the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me: http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/ http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid=19languageid=1 http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us when they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of too! In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding the CF market: *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the benefits of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) offered by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release of CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will enjoy this huge leap forward. *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings: www.macromedia.com/desdev *We're tappiing into new markets for CF: -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to CF readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities. -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not
RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
Sorry you feel that way, Trey. We hope you'll reconsider. IBM is now selling and supporting ColdFusion MX worldwide. We think the momentum is building in the right direction. All: Are there others out there who feel a huge need to run CFMX on Oracle? If so, we would love to hear about it, along with an indication of how many CPUs you would purchase if it were supported. We're not in a position to make any promises about future Oracle support, but we're always interested in hearing what customers want AND are willing to pay for. Regards, Jeff Whatcott Sr. Director, Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Trey Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? I have to agree with Casey on this one. There are practically no CF postings in the Texas market. Dallas has by far the most of any other regional market. I'm no longer a developer and have moved up past the architect tear, and honestly, I here 5x as many stories of people ditching CF than ramping up. The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this. We honestly are seriously considering dumping the product and retraining our CF team for native j2ee. MM's failure to support Oracles j2ee server is killing them in the education and corporate marketplaces. Too many large schools and corporations have purchased 'site' licensure of oracle products that comes bundled with oracle's j2ee server. Fiscally we can not justify purchasing another party j2ee server just to continue using the CF toolset. We are moving forward with what we already own. Talking with industry piers, we are by no means the only large shop doing this. My advice, if you want to maintain your marketability, you better ramp up on other application server languages. Trey Rouse Rice University -Original Message- From: Casey C Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 9:54 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? Well, heres my 2 cents. When the economy was booming I noticed about a 1 to 5 ratio (roughly 100 CF 500 ASP) for coldfusion to ASP jobs on monster.com for the Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas Area, now that the economy is down I see a 1 to 12 ratio (roughly 10 CF 120 ASP) for coldfusion to ASP jobs for the Dallas/Ft. Worth Texas Area. I know this is a very small sample, but if I was looking to stay in this area I would say CF jobs are becoming more scarce. Best of luck. Casey Cook Angel Stewart gelTo: CF-Talk cf- [EMAIL PROTECTED] @silkcotton.ccc: om Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? 10/12/02 09:10 AM Please respond to cf-talk You should be asking how good is the job market for Web Development in the US in general, rather than focusing on CF, and that might give you a better answer. -Gel -Original Message- From: siva girumala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi All, How good is the job market for ColdFusion expertise? It seems the number of openings in ColdFusion are becoming less and less. Is it dying? I am sorry to even mention this. But i would like to know the future of ColdFusion. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
You may find the following white paper useful in understanding how CFMX for J2EE works under the hood. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/whitepapers/pdf/cfmx_j2ee_wp.pdf Jeff Whatcott -Original Message- From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How is CFMX J2EE implemented? Great.. Learn somthing new everyday.. Now... Has anybody deployed any CF applications on Blue Dragon.. How are they working? Any issues? Joe - Original Message - From: Chris Norloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented? I disagree. I like to hear about other ways to do CFML, particularly in the J2EE arena. And Vince Bonfanti, of Blue Dragon fame, gave an excellent and informative talk on CF J2EE for the Maryland CFUG. http://www.cfug-md.org/talks/deploying_cfml_j2ee_servers.ppt http://www.cfug-md.org/meetings.cfm Yes, he's promoting Blue Dragon, but the talk helped me a lot with just basics of CF J2EE. Since some of us are fighting the why keep CF if JSP is the future battle and we can use all the info we can get! Chris Norloff -- Original Message -- from: Mike Brunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:22:54 -0700 I think this post is VERY disrespectful on the CF Talk list. Most of us are aware of Blue Dragon and should we wish to use will do so. Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO Webapper http://www.webapper.com Downey CA Office 562.243.6255 AIM - webappermb Webapper - Making the NET work -Original Message- From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented? Greg, This isn't a direct answer to your questions, but you should be aware of BlueDragon/J2EE, which offers the following advantages over CFMX/J2EE: - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages onto any standard J2EE application server; CFMX supports only a limited number of J2EE servers. Most significantly, BlueDragon supports BEA WebLogic and CFMX does not (New Atlanta, the creator of BlueDragon, is a BEA Star Partner). Support for CFMX on WebLogic is planned for a future release. - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages within a standard J2EE Web Archive (WAR) file; CFMX does not. - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages within multiple independent web applications; CFMX requires that you deploy all of your CFML pages within a single web application. You can find out more about BlueDragon/J2EE on New Atlanta's web site: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm Regards, Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC http://www.newatlanta.com -Original Message- From: Greg McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How is CFMX J2EE implemented? Can anyone answer or point me to a resource about the questions below? How does the CFMX for J2EE run on a J2EE platform? Is there a CF stub that has to be installed in a J2EE Server that allows it to interpret CFMX or does CFMX produce compiled byte code that can run on the targeted hosting environment? If CFMX J2EE is a plugin of some kind on a J2EE server, How do they slice up the licensing: Is it per CPU? Per server? What about clustering? Developer Licenses I guess are tied to the CFMX Studio, but what if you want to develop off of a central server and you've purchased Production licenses, do they allow you to develop off of the same license on a different machine? I haven't found any white papers detailing how the CFMX J2EE product is implemented on the host. My customer is in the middle of Architecting their new environment and the purists don't want to put CF products in their J2EE environment. My client is trying to lower their total cost of ownership by dumping CF and going to a pure J2EE environment. Greg McDaniel ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: JRUN and MX
We've provided lots of info on this topic on our web site. See http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/general/#j400 regarding the JRun question. See http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/general/#g900 regarding editions. See http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/features_by_edition/ for more detail on editions. ColdFusion MX Server can run arbitrary JSPs and servlets and import JSP tag libraries for use in ColdFusion apps, but it's not designed to provide a complete J2EE environment. If you want full J2EE and full ColdFusion MX capabilities on a single server, ColdFusion MX for J2EE (new product available later this year) running on a supported J2EE app server (including but not limited to JRun 4) provides the best solution. Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Business Team / Macromedia, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / tel : 617-219-2510 / fax : 509-356-6130 -Original Message- From: Neil Clark - =TMM= [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: JRUN and MX What I understand is that if you run CFMX as a standalone version, it is like running a JRun version. What it actually leverages when its used in production (i.e. does it just use the parts it needs or is has it actually been re-engineered for CF per say) I cant say. Neil Clark Team Macromedia http://www.macromedia.com/go/team Announcing Macromedia MX!! http://www.macromedia.com/software/trial/. -Original Message- From: Kym Kovan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 May 2002 14:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: JRUN and MX I've heard from MM that the JRun implementation in CFMX is not the full JRun server. I missed the original post from this thread and I am surprised the no-one official has said anything as we have been well informed at various presentations. As we were told: The first release of CF MX is a combination of JRun and CF, ie a standalone version, then there will other versions after that that will be CF MX on top of JRun, or WebSphere, or whatever J2EE server. -- Yours, Kym __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFMX Pricing...
There is no change in the pricing model for Enterprise and, although ColdFusion MX integrates with .NET assets via COM and SOAP web services, .NET is not required. Check out product lines and edition details at: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/features_by_edition/ Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Business Team / Macromedia, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / tel : 617-219-2510 / fax : 509-356-6130 -Original Message- From: Weaver, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Pricing... Well, the pricing model kind of stinks for Enterprise Edition. You really have to have .NET running or pay more on multi-processor versions. ...ColdFusion MX Enterprise Edition is $4999 per server, with upgrades at $2499. The ColdFusion MX Server line is specifically architected to integrate with the Microsoft .NET Framework. The ColdFusion MX for J2EE Application Servers product line is priced at $3399 per processor. -Original Message- From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX Pricing... It is all up on the site. CFMX is the upgrade path to CF5, so subscriptions should be upheld. If the site was not dragging more than usual, I would post the link for you. At 09:45 AM 4/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: Neil, others at MM... I'm curious how CFMX is considered in regards to upgrading from previous versions? Is CFMX considered a new product line, or is it still eligible under the upgrade subscription for the current ColdFusion Server line? The pricing looks almost too good to be true, so I'm wondering if there's a catch. I'm looking at upgrading some v4.x servers, so if I purchase a license for 5 with a subscription (now $869.00 instead of the $2200 or so) will this also cover CFMX when fully released? -Justin Scott, Lead Developer Sceiron Internet Services, Inc. http://www.sceiron.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Pre-Ordering
From http://www-staging.macromedia.com/bin/en2_mxprd.cgi?render=en: If you want to preorder a boxed version, you can call (800) 457-1774 in the USA and Canada or +1 (425) 222-3201 if you live outside of North America. For local phone numbers in your country please see our information pages for Europe, Latin America, Brazil and Asia Pacific. For other info, please see the FAQs at http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/ Jeff W. -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Pre-Ordering Does anyone have a link on MM site to pre-order MX? Thanks, Frank Mamone __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Pre-Ordering
Oops. Make that first link: http://www.macromedia.com/bin/en2_mxprd.cgi?render=en. Jeff W. -Original Message- From: Jeff Whatcott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Pre-Ordering From http://www-staging.macromedia.com/bin/en2_mxprd.cgi?render=en: If you want to preorder a boxed version, you can call (800) 457-1774 in the USA and Canada or +1 (425) 222-3201 if you live outside of North America. For local phone numbers in your country please see our information pages for Europe, Latin America, Brazil and Asia Pacific. For other info, please see the FAQs at http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/faq/ Jeff W. -Original Message- From: Frank Mamone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Pre-Ordering Does anyone have a link on MM site to pre-order MX? Thanks, Frank Mamone __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF and Business Logic
In the US, every cabinet-level federal agency, both houses of Congress, and many sites in the Judicial branch use ColdFusion. Of course this info may or may not be helpful in selling to the Canadian government ;-) For an afternoon of fun, try the following Google query: allinurl: .cfm site:.gov Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Business Team / Macromedia, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / tel : 617-219-2510 / fax : 509-356-6130 -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF and Business Logic A quick search on alltheweb for .cfm and .gov returns... http://www.state.gov/documents/ContactUs.cfm http://www.nimh.nih.gov/events/autismgrant.cfm http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index.cfm http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/recalls/recmmy1.cfm http://www.hud.gov/buying/index.cfm http://www.voa.gov/pronunciations/index.cfm http://spacekids.hq.nasa.gov/2001/nameform.cfm http://www.peacecorps.gov/indexf.cfm http://www.courts.wa.gov/forms/list.cfm http://www.federalreserve.gov/careers/default.cfm http://www.act.gov.au/tourism.cfm http://astrobiology.arc.nasa.gov/index.cfm http://www.muni.org/homepage/index.cfm http://www.grad.usda.gov/info_for/fulbright.cfm http://www.ausaid.gov.au/youtham/become.cfm Prob nothing new here, but it gives you some names. Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/19/02 11:40AM Yves can you fire me some links to those Canadian Gov. sites that have switched. I know of a few Federal ones, but that's about it. I'm trying to make a push for CF in the govt. so any precedence settings sites would be handy. TIA Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Yves Arsenault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: Re: CF and Business Logic Some of the Canadian Gov sites have been switching from ASP to CFif a Governments needs are not considered to be in a high Business Logic category. ?? Yves - Original Message - From: Venable, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: RE: CF and Business Logic That feels much better. I'm about an intermediate CF programmer and I was wondering if maybe I just hadn't done anything serious... I kinda had a feeling this was just prejudice, but I wanted to check with some more experienced folks. Thanks for the feedback. John -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF and Business Logic I doubt he can back up his statement...I've never encountered anything that couldn't be done from a business logic standpoint with ColdFusion. Unless he can support it, I'd leave him just as he is...a potential. Kevin Langevin Flying Chimp Media 954-585-0999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FlyingChimp.com -Original Message- From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 10:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF and Business Logic More of a philosophical question. I was meeting with a potential subcontractor the other day and he made the remark that once you get into serious business logic, cold fusion is kinda hokey. Anyone care to possibly elaborate on what he might've meant? Or is this just another one of those anti-CF prejudices? Just wondering, John Venable __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Try http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/competitive/. Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Business Team / Macromedia, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being And you would think that Allaire/Macromedia would have something of the sort posted on their website, but I could not find anything there Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
techrepublic
Hi CFers, TechRepublic has posted an article regarding a choice between ColdFusion and ASP, and they've asked folks to respond with their advice. Consider this an invitation to jump into the fray at http://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00820010919adm01.htmfromtm=e101-6_requestid=23810. Thanks, Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing / Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] / tel : 617-219-2510 / fax : 509-356-6130 ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Exactly. For details, check out the tools section of the ColdFusion Server 5 release FAQ available at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899. Jeff Whatcott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens To: CF-Talk Sent: 5/3/01 2:48 PM Subject: Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! A product package, not a product merger. -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Stanford wrote: Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
This is a bundle, not a merge. It's also a great value. For details, check out the tools section of the ColdFusion Server 5 release FAQ available at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899. Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing / Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens To: CF-Talk Sent: 5/3/01 2:48 PM Subject: Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! A product package, not a product merger. -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Stanford wrote: Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Hosting Service Provider Edition Eliminated
Based on valued feedback from the community, we have changed our licensing plans for shared server hosting with ColdFusion Server 5. Here's what you need to know: 1. We do not plan to offer a Hosting Service Provider Edition of ColdFusion Server 5 at this time 2. We plan to license the Professional and Enterprise editions of ColdFusion Server 5 in a way that allows you to provide shared server hosting services 3. We plan to introduce the Professional and Enterprise editions of ColdFusion Server 5 with the same pricing as the 4.5 release The broad availability of high quality, affordable ColdFusion hosting services is important to the continued growth and success of the ColdFusion community. We recognize the role of our partners in making this happen, and we encourage partners who offer hosting services to participate our hosting partner programs, including the Hosting Certification Program. Your involvement will help us better meet your needs in the future. One of the most exciting things about the ColdFusion Server 5 release is that it was conceived based on suggestions and feedback from the ColdFusion developer community. We rely on your continued involvement. Keep it coming. If you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions regarding the ColdFusion business, including licensing and pricing issues, feel free to email me anytime. And as you start using ColdFusion Server 5 in the months ahead, be sure to send your ideas for new features and functionality to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing / Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Hosting Service Provider Edition Clarification
Yesterday we sent an email to Macromedia ColdFusion hosting partners regarding the new Hosting Service Provider Edition of ColdFusion Server 5 that was cross-posted to this list. The information in the email was unclear, which caused some confusion about ColdFusion Server 5 pricing and licensing policies in general. On behalf of the team, first I want to apologize for any confusion caused by the email. ColdFusion Server 5 is a very exciting release. The focus has been on building features that developers have been requesting for years. You'll find support for user defined functions, incremental page output, charting, a new administrator, and major performance increases among other cool features. At the same time that we've been building enhancements, we've been very focused on quality, and so far, the feedback in the beta program has been very positive. With the exception of the Hosting Service Provider Edition, we're not changing the basic licensing policies or pricing. As a merged company, we're focused on the needs of ColdFusion developers more than ever. Macromedia is deeply committed to the ColdFusion community and the vision behind ColdFusion Server, and we're making a significant investment in the product. We understand that having high quality hosting options is important to developers, and one of our focuses for this release is to expand the number of service providers participating in our hosting partner program. When we announce formally on Monday, there will be a lot more information available about the new release on our Web site. To help clarify the Hosting Service Provider Edition policies, we've posted an FAQ about the new edition at: http://www.allaire.com/products/coldfusion/cf5hostingfaq.html If you have more questions or concerns about this new edition, please feel free to drop me a note. I'm looking forward to your feedback on ColdFusion Server 5! Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
