Re: SOT: curved corners
I did a lot of research on this and found this to be the best solution, IMO: http://css3pie.com/about/ Basically IE is the problem. Most if not all of the other browsers (FF, Chrome, Safari) deal with curved corners just fine. If the visitor can't support this then you get a graceful degradation - no rounded corners and no nasty workarounds. Jeff On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:53 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: Best-practices questions re: achieving borders with curved corners. If I understand correctly, my options are: - CSS border-radius...but this only works in very new browsers and/or not always the same way, right? - images containing the curves stuck in the corners of divs...this is what I'm currently attempting but I'm clearly doing something wrong because I'm seeing lots of nasty cross-browser issues...does anyone have a URL with a good example of how to do it right? Advice? -- John Bliss - http://about.me/jbliss ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348923 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe Abandons Flex
I don't know - this all seems so premature. It's not like HTML5 is 100% ready for primetime. I think of some of the stuff I do with Flex and HTML/JS seems much weaker as a programming language. A key phrase in the post was 'in the long run'. I don't see HTML/JS being stronger than Flex for enterprise development for some time to come. On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Gerald Guido wrote: HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. None the less I am boning up on HTML5 CSS3 JS etc. MS is betting heavily on HTML5 (Windows 8 is going to have a HTML5/CSS3/JS based UI) as is Google. Right now, according to my (extremely unscientific) estimates about 40-60% of the browser market supports at least some of the HTML5 spec (Basically everything except IE8 and below). Not to mention that XP's EOL is 04/14 so it is not that far off. I have been playing with Adobe Edge, the HTML5 animation tool and it is pretty freaking impressive at to what it can do with HTML/CSS/JS. It is a lot like Flash Pro. G! On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: So are they going to try to force adoption of new browsers? I can tell you that in the Federal sector this won't wash.. (says me working from my federal Win XP IE 8 machine). HTML 5 is very cool, but it's World Dominance is greatly exaggerated. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Matt Quackenbush quackfu...@gmail.com wrote: CF is indeed alive and well. Flex? Flash? Nopers. Done. Be sure to read the portions from Adobe where they clearly state that for all future enterprise development THEY recommend HTML5 and NOT Flash/Flex. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Scott Stewart webmas...@sstwebworks.comwrote: Hasn't the flex SDK *always* been open source? I think this last line contradicts your statement Is Adobe still committed to Flash Builder? Yes. Flash Builder will continue to be developed and Adobe will work to ensure Flex developers can use Flash Builder as their development tool with future releases of Flex SDK. on a personal note: Can we all take a step back, grab a deep breath and assess the situation in it's entirety before jumping to doomsday conclusions? The only thing I've seen that's concrete so far is that Adobe is dumping direct development of the Flash plugin for mobile environments. Their answer (IMO) wrap your Flash in the AIR SDK. ColdFusion is still alive and well Flex is still alive and well Flex Builder is still alive and well This gets old and we're not winning any converts by being paranoid On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe announced this week that they are ending their commitment to further Flex development. Flex 4.6 will likely be the last version Adobe releases and the Flex SDK engineers will be reassigned to HTML 5 projects. Future Flex development will come from the open source community. The announcement is here: http://blogs.adobe.com/flex/2011/11/your-questions-about-flex.html A petition asking the Adobe CEO to step down is here: http://www.change.org/petitions/adobe-systems-shantanu-narayen-to-step-down-as-ceo -Mike ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348735 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices
It's frustrating yet all too predictable the blood in the water phenomena I'm seeing and one that is really blown out of all proportion. I for one have gotten lots of return on my Flash and Flex knowledge and will continue to do so. Long live Flash and AIR! Jeff On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Ben Forta b...@forta.com wrote: And thank you for making that distinction, Bryan. It's amazing how the masses have chosen to ignore that little fact. We're backing away from Flash in-browser, but we're still hard at work on Flash for apps. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:29 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices Keep in mind Adobe AIR is still a perfectly valid option for Andriod, Blackberry, and iOS On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 14:07 -0500, Rick Faircloth wrote: I've always disliked Flash... just too much work for too little return. And I made a living for awhile working on similar timelines in Adobe Premiere. Goodbye, Flash! :o) -Original Message- From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:ir...@pixel69.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:14 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Adobe drops Flsh for mobile devices http://www.google.com/search?q=adobe+flashnum=20hl=ennewwindow=1sa fe=off gbv=2tbm=nwssource=lnttbs=qdr:wsa=Xei=V7O6TomxEeb30gH3w_XdCQved =0CA0Q pwUoAwbiw=1920bih=1075 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:348551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Encryption Issue on CF 9
Hello, I'm trying to implement Gigya and in order to share user credentials, they require HMAC-SHA1 to encrypt the data. Im running into this issue: The HMAC-SHA1 algorithm is not supported by the Security Provider you have chosen. Searching on this gives me this old thread: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:52757 But not much else. Currently I'm hacking around trying to use JSAFE via CFOBJECT. However, its possible this issue might already be addressed. Any input appreciated. Jeff ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347695 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 2 oddity
Wil, I did look for that and found one .settings.xml file - that's it. I deleted this but no change in behavior. My expectation is that when creating a new CF project, a folder with the name of the project would be created automatically. At this point, no matter what I name the project, it returns the message that this project already exists in the /Library/WebServer/Documents directory. Jeff On Aug 25, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Wil Genovese wrote: Then there may be a hidden file in there some where. Look for a file like .project in the location you are trying to create a project. Use terminal if you have to. On OS X by default all files starting with a '.' is hidden. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Jeffrey Battershall wrote: Thanks Wil, this was the first real issue of this type I ran into - I tried permissions and no dice. If I create the folder separately I can place the project there and that's fine. Jeff On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: The first thing I would check are permissions. I have Lion on my old MPB and I get weird issues like that and sometimes it came down to permissions. So far I am not willing to switch to Lion for real ColdFusion work. Too many issues/conflicts between Apple and Adobe IMHO. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Jeffrey Battershall wrote: Guys, For development, I use my MacBook Pro's Web Server documents directory for my CF Builder projects. Between that the apache config and my hosts file I have a convenient dev environment. Today, though, I tried to create a new project in this fashion (first time in several weeks), and CF Builder keeps telling me that the project I'm attempting to create already exists in the documents directory, when it doesn't. Only significant system change would be the OSX Lion upgrade. Anyone got a clue? Jeff ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347027 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CF Builder 2 oddity
Guys, For development, I use my MacBook Pro's Web Server documents directory for my CF Builder projects. Between that the apache config and my hosts file I have a convenient dev environment. Today, though, I tried to create a new project in this fashion (first time in several weeks), and CF Builder keeps telling me that the project I'm attempting to create already exists in the documents directory, when it doesn't. Only significant system change would be the OSX Lion upgrade. Anyone got a clue? Jeff ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347011 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Builder 2 oddity
Thanks Wil, this was the first real issue of this type I ran into - I tried permissions and no dice. If I create the folder separately I can place the project there and that's fine. Jeff On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: The first thing I would check are permissions. I have Lion on my old MPB and I get weird issues like that and sometimes it came down to permissions. So far I am not willing to switch to Lion for real ColdFusion work. Too many issues/conflicts between Apple and Adobe IMHO. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Aug 25, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Jeffrey Battershall wrote: Guys, For development, I use my MacBook Pro's Web Server documents directory for my CF Builder projects. Between that the apache config and my hosts file I have a convenient dev environment. Today, though, I tried to create a new project in this fashion (first time in several weeks), and CF Builder keeps telling me that the project I'm attempting to create already exists in the documents directory, when it doesn't. Only significant system change would be the OSX Lion upgrade. Anyone got a clue? Jeff ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347016 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Email Addresses with Subdomain causes CFMAIL to fail?
Hi, This is a new one for me: user has an email address like tlk...@subdomain.domain.net and CFMAIL ls throwing an exception The value of the attribute to, which is currently tlk572@subdomain.domain .net, is invalid. Anyone run into this before? Jeff ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345638 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Email Addresses with Subdomain causes CFMAIL to fail?
Thanks guys, hopefully that's all this is. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Paul Vernon paul.ver...@web-architect.co.uk wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, there's a space in the users e-mail address where there shouldn't be one. Paul -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Battershall [mailto:jbattersh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:13 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Email Addresses with Subdomain causes CFMAIL to fail? Hi, This is a new one for me: user has an email address like tlk...@subdomain.domain.net and CFMAIL ls throwing an exception The value of the attribute to, which is currently tlk572@subdomain.domain .net, is invalid. Anyone run into this before? Jeff ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345642 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cffile append too slow
If you're using CF8 or CF9 you have the newer File functions. They may well perform better than CFFILE. On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote: Hi, We have noticed that simply writing 1 line to a text file using cffile append takes approx 800ms. is there a quicker alternative to this? thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:345438 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: (ot) Shameful
Ray is that some sarcasm. Just wondering. I've heard about sarcasm. On May 10, 2011 10:26 PM, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: Nope, it didn't work for me. I had to click the link and view it in my browser. If Adobe were truly committed to CF, I wouldn't need to actually click the link. Rather, uniformed penguins in sequin jackets would deliver the demos to me on feather-stuffed pillows while simultaneously singing a cappella versions of 1980 TV show theme songs. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote: works for me also, are you sure your browser is not comatose ? On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.com wrote: Works on this end. Mac and PC. IE and FF. ID ten T error by chance?? Curious -G! On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote: The Adobe Coldfusion 9 demos do not work and have not worked for who knows how long. I guess that's the best way to show Adobe's commitment to its comatose product. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/demos/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: how to restart a specific CF application (not app server)
Another approach - simply change the name of the application in application.cfm. Forces a new application. On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Ian Skinner h...@ilsweb.com wrote: I know I could restart the ColdFusion service and that would probably do the trick. However I'm anticipating needing to do modify onApplicationStart several times during the course of development, and I would prefer to find a way to restart just this particular application. Set the applicationTimeOut values (i.e. this.applicaitonTimeOut) to 0. Run a template in the application and the application immediately times out. Then the next time (and all times until you again change the applicationTimeOut value) the onApplicationStart event will fire. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Dynamic SQL in CFScript
Do you have the option of moving your query logic into a stored proc? It would be more secure. Jeff On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Kyle McLean kmclea...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working on a CF9 project, and I'm trying to take full advantage of the cfscript syntax for my components. I have many cases where I'm using dynamic SQL based on the existence of an optional argument in a function. In CF8 and below it'd look something like this: cffunction name=testFunc returntype=query cfargument name=testArg type=string required=false / cfquery name=testQuery datasource=testDSN SELECT * FROM TBL cfif structKeyExists(arguments.testArg) WHERE COL = '#arguments.testArg#' /cfif /cfquery cfreturn testQuery / /cffunction Is there an elegant way to do the same thing using cfscript? I haven't had any luck with string concatenation in the setSQL method of the query object (and it's kind of clunky to boot). I'd also hate to have to write two almost-identical blocks of code one with the where clause and one without and then apply the correct string to setSQL at runtime, although I assume that would solve my problem. I'd also like to use query binding, just to make things more complicated. Is there some sort of cleaner approach that I'm missing, or is this just one of the downsides to using cfscript? Thanks in advance! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:344003 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Flex and CF Sessions (sort of)
The way I've done this in the past was to store the credentials on the flex client and re-authenticate the user with these using the CFLOGIN framework. This way the responsibility for continuing the session is on the flex side of things. This works with the RemoteObject.setRemoteCredentials(). Unfortunately you end up (unless someone else has a better idea) of doing the re-authentication in Application.cfc. But it does work. This way the app can stay up and running well beyond the session timeout. If you want an inactivity timeout there are ways to handle that in Flex. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Mary Jo Sminkey mary...@cfwebstore.comwrote: Okay, so we have a flex application running on top of ColdFusion. Basically going through CFCs as web services for whatever it needs. But I'm having a hard time coming up with the best way to handle sessions. I don't really store much in the session, other than just the user ID and whether they are logged in or not. I need to handle the user authentication on the CF side and then tell Flex the result. All easy enough when the app loads up. But I've been trying to make sure that on each CFC request, I am checking that they are still logged in and authenticated. I do have some code to ping CF and keep the session active, but just in case that isn't working, I need to make sure they are still active. I've been playing around with the onCFCRequest and got this working for the most part. If their session had timed out, it will just re-authenticate them and make sure they're still an active user before passing off the request to the CFC. Works great up to this point. The problem I'm having is that if they aren't logged in, or if an error is thrown inside a CFC and I have the event handler rethrow it, it's not throwing it to Flex correctly. Instead of the error type of FaultEvent that Flex accepts, it's throwing Server.Processing and instead of the normal error details, I always get one that says An exception occurred while invoking an event handler method from Application.cfc. The method name is: OnCfcRequest. The actual FaultEvent and details that I *should* be getting are buried further down inside the fault that Flex is getting (in extendedData.rootcause). So I'm not able to do any custom error handling in Flex or show the user the Flex-based login failed message. The fault handling worked fine before I added the onCFCRequest, so seems to be a bug when you use this. Anyone else played with this new event handler method much yet with Flex and find a solution for this? Or is there a better way of syncing sessions between Flex and ColdFusion that I can look at instead? I'm just not sure of a good way for Flex to know if the user is still logged in without running a separate authentication check before every service call which seems kind of kludgy. -- Mary Jo ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343061 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfx_pwtextcrypt CF9
Brooke, Excuse me if this is a blind alley but the CF 8 docs state: ColdFusion 8: Added support for encryption using the RSA BSafe Crypto-J library on Enterprise Edition. Perhaps you're not running CF Enterprise and possibly this is not relevant to your needs. I offer this in the spirit of help. Jeff On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Brook Davies cft...@logiforms.com wrote: Thanks for the 'check the docs' response. Why don't you check the docs and tell me how to generate a public/private key pair with RSA encryption and do decryption/encryption with this key pair? And then once you actually know that the docs contain something relevant to my request you can re-post your comment and I'll eat my words. You should really know what you talking about before you go spouting read the docs. Brook -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Battershall [mailto:jbattersh...@gmail.com] Sent: February-13-11 6:57 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfx_pwtextcrypt CF9 Check the CF9 docs. There's quite a bit of encryption/decryption support built in to CF8/9. You might have transition issues to work through, but you shouldn't need a CFX for that purpose at this point. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Brook Davies cft...@logiforms.com wrote: We've been using cfx_pwtextcrypt since 2002, its worked fine on all CF versions right up to CF8. However, it looks like on the 64 Bit CF9, it no longer works. I assume it's a COM related issue. Does anyone know for sure? The tag was able to generate a public/private key pair using RSA 512 bit encryption and subsequently perform encryption/decryption using the keys generated. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this with CF9 without this CFX? Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: cfx_pwtextcrypt CF9
Check the CF9 docs. There's quite a bit of encryption/decryption support built in to CF8/9. You might have transition issues to work through, but you shouldn't need a CFX for that purpose at this point. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Brook Davies cft...@logiforms.com wrote: We've been using cfx_pwtextcrypt since 2002, its worked fine on all CF versions right up to CF8. However, it looks like on the 64 Bit CF9, it no longer works. I assume it's a COM related issue. Does anyone know for sure? The tag was able to generate a public/private key pair using RSA 512 bit encryption and subsequently perform encryption/decryption using the keys generated. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this with CF9 without this CFX? Brook D. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:342172 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
I, for one, would like to acknowledge you for the entertainment value you bring to this list. Thank you. Jeff On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I know so much about marketing from my experience with small/midtier companies in completely different lines of business that I can accurately make a cost-benefit analysis without any background information other than my own wild-ass guesses. Well yours is certainly more jaded and much less tongue in cheek. Having an opinion about masking the use of PHP on CF related pages doesn't equate to me feeling like I am a master at marketing. I'm not. (Though I wouldn't a client with yearly earnings of over 14.5B a small/midtier business.) And marketing is marketing. Your tactics and strategy change from client to client but the principles of marketing do not. So the fact I've never done work for Adobe doesn't disqualify me from ideas that might benefit them. One doesn't need to know so much about marketing or to do a cost-benefit analysis to see the value of throwing a dev on a url rewrite project for a week. It seems you are trying to morph my point into an argument for spending millions rewriting apps in cf. And if that was my point I think you'd be right. So I'll say again that we must agree to disagree here sir. It's clear I'm not swaying you in any way. And it seems clear you think I'm a fool. The beauty of HOF is that's it's made of so many opinionated people. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341690 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
Having used CFEclipse extensively not to mention CF Studio/Homesite and some DW, I have to say that CF Builder is well worth the investment, so much so that it's not even close. Having FB Standard bundled is nice but not essential to making Builder worth the money. Now that I'm acclimated to Builder, I'd never go back. The incorporation of a lot of Aptana features makes it a virtual one-stop-shop for all my CF/HTML needs. The product is on a good track and I'm looking forward to the next iteration. On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I think we need to move where you guys live...if you can be so flippant about $300, pay must be pretty awesome there... What I wish they would do is offer a version without flash for less. I don't ever do flash, so bundling it isn't much of a perk to me. Eric -Original Message- From: Stephane Vantroyen [mailto:s...@emakina.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 06:02 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: why is cf_builder so expensive? My 50 cents : I've been working with CFBuilder for about 6 months now (coming from homesite++, hard to let this one go...) and I will honestly say that it is a very good product, with some lacks or some problems (from time to time), but with great functionalities as well. It helps me to work better (it always can be better than what you know), and once used to it, it becomes your friend at work (I'm a freelance and work most of the time alone). From this point of view, I'd not say that a product that costs round 200$ (was it 300?) is 'so expensive'. If you need a working tool, be prepared to pay for it. There are other company tools (from adobe, but from other companies also) that cost a lot more, and nobody complains about it. I'll also add that you will not hear from people when a product works. You _will_ hear when it doesn't work. On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Sean Corfield seancorfield@gmail. com wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Michael Firth mfsqlserver@gmail. com wrote: Based on the feedback I am getting Builder seems to be very stable contrary to a few web posts I have read. I think a lot of people tried the public beta, had problems, and never went back after the public 1.0 release. Their loss, IMO. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: why is cf_builder so expensive?
Michael, I know what it is to be broke, supporting a family of 7 and not be able to afford software to do my job. I remember coding CF 3.1 in Notepad. I remember re-setting my PC's time so I could get more time on my 30 day trial of Front Page when I was just starting out. Until software companies caught on to that. It is to laff in retrospect. But you do what you must do and you make it happen because that's your life. I think one reason why you might have less than a sympathetic audience is that we've all paid our dues and if we've been able to buy IDE's is by the sweat of our brow that we do so. Heck, it's even a tax deduction. So rather than hoping that CFB was cheaper why don't you focus on improving your skills with CFEclipse or other open-source product until you can get paid that the level that would allow you to purchase CFB? Or get yourself hired and get your new boss to pay for it. Jeff On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Michael Firth mfsqlser...@gmail.comwrote: Maybe this will help in that I am withdrawing from any future discussion because it would seem some are getting rather upset lmao. So in the spirit of professional courtesy let the builder die a glorious death! There can only be one. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:341394 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Is Coldfusion losing it biggest asset?
ColdFusion supports both approaches and sports a very powerful set of capabilities. Don't really see the issue. I have had no problem staying employed using CF for 12 years on the East Coast. When you start to maintain a web property at more of an enterprise level you find yourself want a more pattern based approach and that inevitably leads to OOP. Frameworks don't slow you down, they speed you up and make a lot of reinventing the wheel unnecessary. But of course there's the ramp up time in getting comfortable with it. That said, its important not be a one trick pony in this work environment. Jeff On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Irvin Gomez ir...@pixel69.com wrote: Coming from a design, not programming, background, I embraced Coldfusion for all the well-known reasons: easy to use, easy to learn, easy, easy...you get the idea. With the advent of more advanced features, everywhere I go I see a big push for moving Coldfusion and Coldfusion development into very complicated frameworks and OOP. The usual reason given is that not doing so runs the risk of rendering the Coldfusion developer obsolete in the job marketplace. So, my first question: if the reason for going in the direction suggested is fear of becoming 'unemployable', wouldn't it make far more sense to move into something more popular like PHP, .Net, etc. right away? Because the same argument can be used to scare even the most advanced Coldfusion developers: no matter how good you are, you're still part of a very small minority and doing coldfusion instead of PHP will make you obsolete sooner or later. Second and final question: what's really wrong with a procedural approach when dealing with medium or small web sites (which I imagine is the majority of work entrusted to your average Coldfusion developer)? Is there a legitimate need to learn what *APPEARS* to be over-complicated and clumsy frameworks and OOP strategies? And, please, know i'm not trying to create a flame war. I'm not pretending to be an expert (I'm not) in Coldfusion matters. I'm just trying get the real-world perspective of fellow developers far more experienced and knowledgeable than me. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:340659 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: ColdFusion/Flex RemoteObjects
Mike, More info is required here. Is Flash remoting support enabled in CF Admin? Are the CFC methods exposed remotely? Is the Flex app running in the same domain as CF? Why are you using Flex 3.3 instead of Flex 3.5? Have you tried using a Network sniffer like Charles? Are you capturing any faults? Jeff On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Mike Crank wmcr...@ecastcorp.com wrote: RemoteObjects will not return. Just get a busy cursor. Running CF8/Flex 3.3. Any help is appreciated. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:339335 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CF Flash Problem
In Flash Paper, which supported making PPTs into Flash movies, there was some sort of exposed API to manipulate the presentation. It's been a long, long time since I used it but I would guess that CFPRESENTATION has something similar. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 PM, John Eubanks jae...@hotmail.com wrote: Anyone know how to get timeline information from a cfpresentation? I need to be able to get where a user stopped at if he/she logs out of the application or if the session ends so they don't have to start the entire presentation over if or when they log back in. Any assistance would be great. I can be reached at: john.euba...@dev-solutions.biz. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:337497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFSTOREDPROD question
My first thought would be no. On Jul 16, 2010 9:31 AM, Chad Baloga cbal...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if CFSTOREDPROC closes a cursor automatically if a store proc is called with one? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335404 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFSTOREDPROD question
Closing open cursors is definitely the province of SQlL not CF. But that's easy to fix, right? simply close/deallocate the cursor in the proc. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Shannon Rhodes shan...@rhodesedge.comwrote: Not sure if I'm understanding the question, but any cursors in your stored procedure would be a return type, i.e. you wouldn't be looping over it within the proc (unless it was looped/closed for related business logic). By the time you call the proc from CF, CF is just saving the result set for you, and then you have to do something else to loop over the result set. cfstoredprod doesn't have to close a cursor because it doesn't open one or loop over one. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:335406 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
