Old Bit mask Presentation
Howdy! There was a presentation on the use of bit masks and user permissions made to the Arizona CFUG back in 2000-2001. I'm trying to find a copy of that presentation or something similar. I went to the current Arizona CFUG but it doesn't come up when I search their archives. There's an old thread buried here in these archives that mentions it also. Any pointers? Thx Ken ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:257147 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Zip Code - Address Object
Hello! Has anyone worked with the Address Object from MelissaData.com? I'm having problems calling the object methods, although it seems to be initialized fine... Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Address COM Object
Hello! Has anyone used the Address Object from Melissa Data Corp. with CF? I'm having problems (Invalid Class String) when I try to use the CFOBJECT tag. I use CFOBJECT as: cfobject type=COM action=CREATE class=AddressObject.ZipCodeData} name=myObj I can see the object and all its methods in OLEViewer and I've run regsvr32 on the .dll. I've also used OLEView to Create An Instance of the object first, all with no luck. ?? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Concatenate 2 Queries
Hello! Is there a way to combine (concatenate) 2 different queries *without* using the QueryNew, QueryAddRow, QuerySetCell stuff? Something like QueryCat(Query1, Query2). ?? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Concatenate 2 Queries
The problem I'm having if I use a UNION is that the queries use 2 different WHERE clauses. What I need to do is: SELECT Fields FROM Table WHERE Cond1 UNION SELECT Fields FROM Table Where Cond2 My understanding is I can only use the WHERE clause after the last SELECT block... - Original Message - From: Philip Arnold - ASP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: RE: Concatenate 2 Queries Is there a way to combine (concatenate) 2 different queries *without* using the QueryNew, QueryAddRow, QuerySetCell stuff? Something like QueryCat(Query1, Query2). ?? I'm not sure if Query a Query does this, but how about using UNION? Philip Arnold Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 Websites for the real world ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Concatenate 2 Queries
Looks like this is working great. Thx! - Original Message - From: Tim Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Concatenate 2 Queries If you are using CF 5, you can use UNION with the new Query of a query to do that. cfquery name=Query3 dbtype=query Select foo from Query1 UNION Select foo from Query2 /cfquery - Original Message - From: Ken Monroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Concatenate 2 Queries Hello! Is there a way to combine (concatenate) 2 different queries *without* using the QueryNew, QueryAddRow, QuerySetCell stuff? Something like QueryCat(Query1, Query2). ?? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFIF Confusion
Hello! I'm working with SQL Server 2000 and I have a query I'm confused about. There's a field (FIELD1) that's defined as a VARCHAR. The field contains either Yes or No. I SELECT all records and then want to display somthing different if FIELD1 is a Yes or No. The following structure works: cfif FIELD1 IS NOT No Bunch of code /cfif This structure does not work: cfif FIELD1 IS Yes Bunch of code /cfif I've also notice that in SQL, if I do a: SELECT * FROM TableName WHERE (FIELD1 LIKE 'yes') it works, but SELECT * FROM TableName WHERE (Field1 IS 'yes') does not work... ??? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFIF Confusion
That did it! As the other responses indicated, things can get confusing between logical (boolean) comparisons and string comparisons. I really was trying to do a string comparison for the literal word Yes. As Stephen Hait indicated, there were trailing spaces or something that was messing up the statement. I had been outputting the variable and it was showing up fine. Thx - Original Message - From: C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: RE: CFIF Confusion When in doubt, use Trim() and UCase() functions to make sure, so instead of cfif FIELD1 IS Yes try cfif Trim(UCase(FIELD1)) IS YES See if that helps. Hatton Humphrey -Original Message- From: Ken Monroe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFIF Confusion Hello! I'm working with SQL Server 2000 and I have a query I'm confused about. There's a field (FIELD1) that's defined as a VARCHAR. The field contains either Yes or No. I SELECT all records and then want to display somthing different if FIELD1 is a Yes or No. The following structure works: cfif FIELD1 IS NOT No Bunch of code /cfif This structure does not work: cfif FIELD1 IS Yes Bunch of code /cfif I've also notice that in SQL, if I do a: SELECT * FROM TableName WHERE (FIELD1 LIKE 'yes') it works, but SELECT * FROM TableName WHERE (Field1 IS 'yes') does not work... ??? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF and @@Identity
Hello! I'm not understanding what the SET NOCOUNT statements do in SQL Server... I'm using the @@IDENTITY variable to duplicate record id's between tables. In Example 1, the SELECT @@IDENTITY statement does not work. In Example 2, where the 1st query is inside a SET NOCOUNT block, the SELECT @@IDENTITY *does* work. Why? Thx * Example 1 ** cftransaction cfquery name=AddNewItem datasource=#APPLICATION.DSN# dbtype=oledb INSERT INTO TableName (VAR1, VAR2, VAR3) VALUES ('#FORM.VAR1#', '#FORM.VAR2#', '#FORM.VAR3#') --- SELECT @@IDENTITY AS NewID /cfquery cfquery name=AddLinkedItem datasource=#APPLICATION.DSN# dbtype=OLEDB INSERT INTO AnotherTable (TableID, NewVar1, NewVar2) VALUES(#AddNewItem.NewID#, '#FORM.NewVar1#','#FORM.NewVar2#') /cfquery cfset SESSION.TheNewRecordID = #AddNewItem.NewID# /cftransaction * Example 2 ** cftransaction --- SET NOCOUNT ON cfquery name=AddNewItem datasource=#APPLICATION.DSN# dbtype=oledb INSERT INTO TableName (VAR1, VAR2, VAR3) VALUES ('#FORM.VAR1#', '#FORM.VAR2#', '#FORM.VAR3#') SELECT @@IDENTITY AS NewID --- SET NOCOUNT OFF /cfquery cfquery name=AddLinkedItem datasource=#APPLICATION.DSN# dbtype=OLEDB INSERT INTO AnotherTable (TableID, NewVar1, NewVar2) VALUES(#AddNewItem.NewID#, '#FORM.NewVar1#','#FORM.NewVar2#') /cfquery cfset SESSION.TheNewRecordID = #AddNewItem.NewID# /cftransaction ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF 45 to CF 50 Upgrade
Hello! Has anybody been able to divine the magic process required to get a free upgrade from CF 4.5 to CF 5.0? The CF 5 FAQ *used* to say that any purchases of CF4.5 after April 30 were entitled to a free upgrade. I began development of a project using the download trial version of CF 5 in May and then went to purchase the Enterprise version at the end of May. Naturally, the resellers don't have CF 5 so I bought CF 4.5 based on the MM FAQ saying I could get a free upgrade. Now, I can't find anyplace on either Allaire or MM to register my CF 4.5 number or get an upgrade number. The MM site has a registration page but it rejects my my serial number. I tried posting to the support forums this AM but they're not working either... Any ideas? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Net.Data vs CF
IBM has moved away from Net.Data in their own WebSphere products. I would take this to mean that there's not much future with it. On the other hand, there are probably quite a few older systems out there that used it. So, from the standpoint of working with older/other systems it's probably good but I certainly wouldn't create anything new with unless existing hardware/software requires it. - Original Message - From: Bernd VanSkiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: Net.Data vs CF Anyone here use IBM's Net.Data language? I have been asked to learn it where I am working and will get a substantial raise if I do. I have been getting myself introduced with it and cannot see any advantages with it over ColdFusion. Our company already has some code written in Net.Data, I figure I'll learn it, get the raise and then convert everything to CF unless there is some reason to keep it in Net.Data. Net.Data seems quite complicated and long compared to ColdFusion. = Bernd VanSkiver [EMAIL PROTECTED] ColdFusion Developer ICQ UIN: 916324 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Bit Masks
That's the one! Thx much and Thanks! to Cameron Childress for his presentation also. - Original Message - From: Aaron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: RE: Bit Masks hey guys, The presentation you're looking for was at the Arizona CFUG, which isn't coming up right now... *but* with the wonders of Googles cache you can get the article: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.azcfug.org/technotes/index.cfm%3Ffu seaction%3Dadvancedcode%26technote%3Dbitmask+ColdFusion+bitmaskhl=en HTH Aaron Johnson, MCSE, MCP+I Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer MINDSEYE, Inc. phn617.350.0339 fax617.350.8884 icq66172567 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 2:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Bit Masks I believe that someone once gave a presentation at one of the CFUGs about using bit masks, also know as Right Bit AND, to set up security access levels. This wasn't the same as the presentation at the Fig Leaf site that's slight more oriented towards hierarchy uses. I've looked at all the CFUG sites linked to from the Allaire site but I can't find the presentation. Does anyone recall where the presentation was made and/or how to get the presentation file? I once did a presentation a long time ago for the Atlanta CFUG on a simple security model that used bits in this fashion, but it was designed for CF4.0, and has a few outdated syntax samples in it if you are using something newer than 4.0. I'm emailing you a copy of it offlist. If anyone else wants it, please let me know offlist. Here's a bonus for working with bits... Slap the following code into a CFM template, run it, and them print the output. I keep a copy of it on my wall, and it really helps with remembering how the heck bit functions work and where the positions are/start etc... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.7277.232 f.770.460.0963 !--- create the initial integers. Doing it this way helps you visualize what your int looks like in binary form --- CFSET x = InputBaseN('00110001', 2) CFSET y = InputBaseN('00111000', 2) !--- position guide --- 10987654321098765432109876543210BR CFOUTPUT !--- Read the bit values back out one by one to display the int in binary --- CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(x, i, 1)#/CFLOOP = x = (#x#)BR CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(y, i, 1)#/CFLOOP = y = (#y#)BR BR !--- Do different bit operations BitAnd(), BitOr, etc, and see what they do to the values of the integers and bit positions. --- CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitAnd(x, y), i, 1)#/CFLOOP = BitAnd(x, y) = #BitAnd(x, y)#BR CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitOr(x, y), i, 1)#/CFLOOP = BitOr(x, y) = #BitOr(x, y)#BR CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitXOr(x, y), i, 1)#/CFLOOP = BitXOr(x, y) = #BitXOr(x, y)#BR CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitNot(x), i, 1)#/CFLOOP = BitNot(x) = #BitNot(x)#BR CFLOOP INDEX=i FROM=31 TO=0 STEP=-1#BitMaskRead(BitNot(y), i, 1)#/CFLOOP = BitNot(y) = #BitNot(y)#BR ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Bit Masks
Hello! I believe that someone once gave a presentation at one of the CFUGs about using bit masks, also know as Right Bit AND, to set up security access levels. This wasn't the same as the presentation at the Fig Leaf site that's slight more oriented towards hierarchy uses. I've looked at all the CFUG sites linked to from the Allaire site but I can't find the presentation. Does anyone recall where the presentation was made and/or how to get the presentation file? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
MS Access and SQL
Hello! I've inherited an Access database where someone used the query designer to create a table based on the following query: SELECT Field5, First(Field1), First(Field2), First(Field3),... FROM Datatable GROUP BY Field5 As near as I can tell, the "First()" function is not standard SQL. I think that what they were trying to accomplish could be done by saying: SELECT DISTINCT Field5, Field1, Field2, Field3,... FROM Datatable GROUP BY Field5 (although I think this accomplishes nothing). Any ideas? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Virus Scanning Service
Hello! Does anyone know of any good e-mail virus scanning services (not software)? I want all of our e-mail to be passed thru a service before it is forwarded on to the recepient... Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Web Mining, Analysis, and Reporting
Take a look at a product called Maxamine: http://www.maxamine.com/ - Original Message - From: "Bosky, Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 7:52 AM Subject: Web Mining, Analysis, and Reporting Looking for a software package used for Web Mining, Analysis, and Reporting. What are the packages everyone is currently using and would recommend? Would Allaire Spectra accomplish what I need? Thanks, Dave ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF and Distributed Caching
Hello! Does anyone have any experiences (good vs bad, hardware/softwre, etc) on using CF applications in a geographical distributed caching scheme? Thx ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Wanted CF Web app development methodology
Maybe take a look at: http://www.fusebox.org/fuseml/ ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: UML information recommendations?
Try http://www.fusebox.org/fuseml/ and/or get a book by Jim Conallen called "Building Web Applications with UML." Ken - Original Message - From: "Peter Theobald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: UML information recommendations? Can anyone recommend a good source of information for advanced programmers who are new to UML? Especially if it relates to web development. -- - Peter Theobald, Chief Technology Officer LiquidStreaming http://www.liquidstreaming.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone 1.212.545.1232 x204 Fax 1.212.545.0938 To put this contact information into your Palm device, click here: http://www.coola.com/cgi-bin/addinfo.cgi?pid=15803rid=972879910type=A ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: BETA 5
When I go in thru the normal Beta.allaire.com site and click on "ColdFusion 5.0 Giveway" (for Windows), Norton Antivirus has a fit about "CFJava[1].cab... It doesn't give any details about what it found i.e. the virus name is "" so I don't know if there's something about the CAB file or what... - Original Message - From: "Charlie McCormack" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: BETA 5 ftp://ftp2.allaire.com/pub/beta/cfserver50b1.exe Go get it :) ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Way OT:E-mail hosts
Hello! Anybody know of any good e-mail hosts/ASPs that perform virus checking on attachments? Thx Ken ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Live Auction
Hello Is anyone aware of any CF applications/products that can be use to conduct *live* auctions? This is where you have an "auctioneer" start the bidding process, and as authorized buyers bid, everyone that is involved with the bid process sees the latest bid on their screen i.e. the latest bid is pushed out. Thx Ken Monroe -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Web Cam's
Try an AXIS camera: http://www.axis.com/products/camera_servers/ Very nice -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 9:15 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: OT: Web Cam's Does any one have any suggestions for web cam's? I need to set one up for an architectural project. Have never done one so I need to know what you guys think Advice on model of camera, server config's client needs would be awesome! Mabey even one of you knows of a reseller. -paul -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
CF Mall Applications
Is anybody aware of any off-the-shelf CF products that can be used to implement a shopping mall? i.e. multiple stores at one site with separate owner administration and separate control of the check out/billing functions. Thx -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
JSP Servers
Hello! Does anybody have any comparison experience/recommendations between JRUN, BEA WebLogic, and IBM WebSphere? Thx -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Blue Martini
We got any Blue Martini (No, not that kind!) experience/opinions out there? Thx -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.