.NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Ken Ketsdever
We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Steve Brownlee
Can you determine if the sessions are simply timing out?  It may be as simple
as increasing the IIS session timeout value. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!
 
 We have a project that was poorly planned.   
 
 One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.
 
 Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to 
 CF, with the
 help of a senior CF developer. 
 
 The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
 experience but no web experience. 
 
 
 The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
 entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
 either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the 
 .NET piece.
 
 
 The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
 in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
 from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
 variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 
 
 All pieces are within a single website.
 
 Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?
 
 Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Kevin Aebig
Hi Ken,

Is there a reason that the entry point is in .NET while everything else is
CF? It seems logical that it might be wise to encompass the complete app
within one platform...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: December 14, 2005 12:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Ken Ketsdever
It does not appear to be a timeout issue.  We can stay within .NET
without an issue. As soon as we leave .NET there are no Session
variables upon return, even if we click out then right back in.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Can you determine if the sessions are simply timing out?  It may be as
simple
as increasing the IIS session timeout value. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 1:27 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!
 
 We have a project that was poorly planned.   
 
 One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.
 
 Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to 
 CF, with the
 help of a senior CF developer. 
 
 The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
 experience but no web experience. 
 
 
 The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
 entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
 either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the 
 .NET piece.
 
 
 The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
 in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
 from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
 variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 
 
 All pieces are within a single website.
 
 Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?
 
 Ken 



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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Couple of answers to your question.

The .NET portion is more than just an entry point. It contains
additional functionality.  

We are doing what we can to continue as a CF house.  There has been a
push for .NET by non-IS related management (read all you want between
the lines).  

One of the ways we are trying to do this is using both .NET and CF.
Attempting to show that .NET is no better than CF and they can actually
work together. (remember, the poorly planned project comment at the
start of the original post). 

Better planning and testing would have raised this issue earlier. 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Hi Ken,

Is there a reason that the entry point is in .NET while everything else
is
CF? It seems logical that it might be wise to encompass the complete app
within one platform...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: December 14, 2005 12:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Mehdi, Agha
Ken,

Can you find out if the .NET session is set to be killed once the app gets
out of .NET environment? Looks like the session is killed once you navigate
to different web site or a different section in a web site.

Agha Mehdi
IDT - eBusiness Program Manager


-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Couple of answers to your question.

The .NET portion is more than just an entry point. It contains
additional functionality.  

We are doing what we can to continue as a CF house.  There has been a
push for .NET by non-IS related management (read all you want between
the lines).  

One of the ways we are trying to do this is using both .NET and CF.
Attempting to show that .NET is no better than CF and they can actually
work together. (remember, the poorly planned project comment at the
start of the original post). 

Better planning and testing would have raised this issue earlier. 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

Hi Ken,

Is there a reason that the entry point is in .NET while everything else
is
CF? It seems logical that it might be wise to encompass the complete app
within one platform...

Cheers,

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: December 14, 2005 12:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the
help of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Just wated to chimne in and say BlueDragon would have possibly ben a good fit 
for this combined technology projectalthough I know that doesn't help with 
you current dilema.

I do know I've seen this session lost issue posted many times on this 
list...but I've never read them...so I don't know if there is a solution.

If you haven't searched already...check the archives and you may find your 
answer ;-)

I will pay attention to this thread to see what the solution will be ;-)

Good luck

Cheers

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RE: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Snake
This is another plug for Blue Dragin I'm afraid.

With Blue Dragon.net you can mix and match CFML and asp.net, and session
variables will be available to both.
I.E session vars create din the .net code are available to CFML and vice
versa.
You can also include asp.net cod einto a .cfm file and vice versa.

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 December 2005 18:27
To: CF-Talk
Subject: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

We have a project that was poorly planned.   

One piece of the project was built by a very experienced CF developer.

Another piece was built by a good programmer fairly new to CF, with the help
of a senior CF developer. 

The third piece was built in .NET by a good developer with lots of GUI
experience but no web experience. 


The .NET piece is the entry point and both CF pieces point back to the
entry point.   So I can log in, work in the .NET piece then move to
either of the CF pieces but almost always end up back in the .NET piece.


The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist in
..NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves from the
..NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session variables no longer
exist upon return to the .NET piece. 

All pieces are within a single website.

Any idea what might be causing this or how to address the issue?

Ken 

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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread charles arehart
Bryan says BD would have possibly been a good fit but doesn't help with the 
current dillema. Perhaps it still can. :-) Ken, if you're interested in 
hearing more, contact me off-list, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or feel free to call 
me at 678 256 5395.

/charlie

Just wated to chimne in and say BlueDragon would have possibly ben a good 
fit 
for this combined technology projectalthough I know that doesn't help with 
you current dilema.

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.

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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread Bryan Stevenson
 Bryan says BD would have possibly been a good fit but doesn't help with 
 the 
 current dillema. Perhaps it still can.

Well yes CharlieI assumed he didn't want a  whole new dev environment and 
to 
rip the app apart ;-)

but Ken...I'd call Charlie if I were you ;-)

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Re: .NET Variables wiithin ColdFusion HELP!!!

2005-12-14 Thread James Holmes
How are you maintaining the session in .NET? With cookies or with URL variables?

On 12/15/05, Ken Ketsdever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have a project that was poorly planned.
[snip]
 The issue we are running into is that the .NET session variables exist
 in .NET.  There are no problems with them.  However, if a user moves
 from the .NET piece to either of the CF pieces the .NET Session
 variables no longer exist upon return to the .NET piece.

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http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/

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