Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
> Yea trusted cache?? and the setting int he cf admin that says something > about storing class between restarts... I dont employ either setting - not > the culprit here.. Just to make sure, you might want to check your cfclasses directory and delete anything within it: c:\coldfusion9\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cfclasses Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343293 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
Yea trusted cache?? and the setting int he cf admin that says something about storing class between restarts... I dont employ either setting - not the culprit here.. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before. > > I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many > > servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear > > any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution > > for this problem. > > If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, > it > > should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically. > > Just saying thats a piss-poor patch. > > I'm pretty sure the release notes for patches often recommend this. > But in any case, this is a common issue with patches. I've run into > problems with compiled files more than once. > > In many (most?) cases, I'd recommend not storing compiled classes to > disk anyway. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343291 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
> Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before. > I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many > servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear > any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution > for this problem. > If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, it > should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically. > Just saying thats a piss-poor patch. I'm pretty sure the release notes for patches often recommend this. But in any case, this is a common issue with patches. I've run into problems with compiled files more than once. In many (most?) cases, I'd recommend not storing compiled classes to disk anyway. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343290 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
the cfclasses folder can cause a whole host of issues. I rarely remember it though myself. remember that all those files in there are compiled already with the previous version of CF, and when CF starts it loads them all into memory. If you have A LOT of files then this can cause CF to takes ages to start. If there is anything in those files that has changed with the new update, then they need to be re-compiled to pickup those changes, or they may simply not run properly or may cause errors. deleting everything in the cfclasses folder will cause all those files to be re-compiled. I am actually experimenting with having the saving of class files disabled, as the only benefit really is that they get loaded to memory at startup and thus do not need to be compiled again. The result is very slow startup sometimes. By disabling this setting it just means each files has to be compiled once the first time it runs, then it is in memory just the same. I personally think the latter is more beneficial. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Dan Baughman wrote: > > Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before. > > I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many > servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear > any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution > for this problem. > > If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, it > should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically. > > Just saying thats a piss-poor patch. > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > > > > I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing > russian > > > roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you > have > > to > > > reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup. > > > > No, this is not really the case. You don't need to reinstall your > > entire CF setup. > > > > > Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every > > CFM > > > file: > > > The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute > > > datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor. > > > > Did you clear your cfclasses cache after installing the update? You > > really should do that any time you install an update. > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343289 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
Why doesn't the updater do that then? I've never heard of that before. I guess I must be living under a rock because I've upgraded many, many servers starting from coldfusion 6 up through 9.01 and NEVER had to clear any class-cache - nor I have heard this mentioned by anyone as a solution for this problem. If this patch introduces a new requirement of clearing the class cache, it should be mentioned in the docs or the patch should do it automatically. Just saying thats a piss-poor patch. On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing russian > > roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you have > to > > reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup. > > No, this is not really the case. You don't need to reinstall your > entire CF setup. > > > Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every > CFM > > file: > > The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute > > datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor. > > Did you clear your cfclasses cache after installing the update? You > really should do that any time you install an update. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > http://training.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on > GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343286 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
> I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing russian > roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you have to > reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup. No, this is not really the case. You don't need to reinstall your entire CF setup. > Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every CFM > file: > The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute > datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor. Did you clear your cfclasses cache after installing the update? You really should do that any time you install an update. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
Thanks, I actually stopped everything (cf,iis) then just restored a copy of the coldfusion directory pre-update and it re-started everything. Dan On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: > > FYI, if you are on windows, before updating CF, just take a copy of the > ColdFusion installation folder and the CFIDE. If things go tits up, just > shut down services and restore the folders, you don't usually need to > re-install CF from scratch. > > > I don't use Linux, but I suspect the same is true. > > -- > > Russ Michaels > > www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services & solutions > www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community > www.michaels.me.uk : my blog > www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine > ** > *skype me* : russmichaels > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343276 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
FYI, if you are on windows, before updating CF, just take a copy of the ColdFusion installation folder and the CFIDE. If things go tits up, just shut down services and restore the folders, you don't usually need to re-install CF from scratch. I don't use Linux, but I suspect the same is true. -- Russ Michaels www.bluethunderinternet.com : Business hosting services & solutions www.cfmldeveloper.com: ColdFusion developer community www.michaels.me.uk : my blog www.cfsearch.com : ColdFusion search engine ** *skype me* : russmichaels ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343275 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: 9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
On 25 March 2011 23:48, Dan Baughman wrote: > The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute > datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor. > > Does anyone have the final solution/fix for this? http://www.getrailo.org/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343272 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
9.01 updater - the nightmare relived
Hi List, I recall back when I installed 9.01 - its basically like playing russian roullette with your server with the possible outcome being that you have to reinstall your entire ColdFusion setup. Its this error (and some of its variants) that start occuring on every CFM file: The tag handler application does not have a setter for the attribute datasource specified in the Tag Library Descriptor. Does anyone have the final solution/fix for this? Why hasn't adobe fixed this god awful patch? I have a live site down any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks Dan ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:343271 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
