RE: ADA Captcha
Hahahahahahhahahahaaa, that gave me the first good laugh of the day, CFFormProtect very hard to configure (in any Fusebox app) ;-) Thanx for cheering up my day with an intense felt laughter ;-) Sorry about that, but I think you understand that I have to disagree with you about difficulties of setting up CFFormProtect. I've set it up in simple CFM-pages, in Fusebox 2, 3 and 5.5 (noXML) apps in less than one minute. If you need pointers or any help, feel free to e-mail me (off-list if you wish: sebgmc - at - hotmail - . - com). Sebastiaan = So long and thanx 4 all the fish ==> Onlinebase.nl > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:30:53 -0700 > Subject: Re: ADA Captcha > From: vec...@mostdeadlygame.com > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > > > I found CFFormProtect to be very hard to configure and set up (in > fusebox). reCapatcha, I set up in about 4 mins. (just did it) and it > works perfectly. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Sebastiaan GMC van > Dijk wrote: > > > > Captcha's are SOOO passe! > > Toss out the Captcha and make use of CFFormProtect, available from > > RIAForge.com ;-) > > No extra user input, coupled to Akismet and Project Honeypot, and all CFC > > ;-) > > > > Sebastiaan > > = > > So long and thanx 4 all the fish > > > > ==> Onlinebase.nl > >> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:51:58 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: ADA Captcha > >> From: h...@ilsweb.com > >> To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > >> > >> > >> Dave Watts wrote: > >> > While I do think you're right about reCAPTCHA being ADA-compliant, I > >> > would still recommend avoiding the use of CAPTCHAs at all. "ADA > >> > compliant" doesn't necessarily equate with "easy to use". > >> > >> While I don't disagree that there are costs and cons to weigh when using > >> a captcha. I find the Carnegie-Mellon one to be less annoying then > >> most. They don't do *really* funky things with the words like toss the > >> letters like salad or use horrid backgrounds. They actually use the > >> creative idea of taking a fairly human readable word that has already > >> failed computer recognition when it was scanned and OCR'ed from a > >> digitalization project, currently the NY Times. And combines this with > >> a word that has already been solved by humans. > >> > >> Thus you get a pair of fairly straight forward words that have always > >> been simple for me to understand at least. That has not always been > >> true with other, more homegrown captcha systems. Plus you get the > >> community benefit of helping digitalize pre-computer printed works. I > >> feel that offsets quite a bit of the cons of captcha's in general. As > >> well as that Carnegie-Mellon has also included the ADA compliance portion. > >> > >> But, as always, your (general) millage may vary and only you (general) > >> can make the decision on what is best for your (general) given project > >> of the day. > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325482 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ADA Captcha
Nice, I think I've decided to go with recaptcha, just because this captcha isn't really part of a form. This implemntation is being used to restrict access to certain areas of the site. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Phillip Vector wrote: > > I found CFFormProtect to be very hard to configure and set up (in > fusebox). reCapatcha, I set up in about 4 mins. (just did it) and it > works perfectly. > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Sebastiaan GMC van > Dijk wrote: > > > > Captcha's are SOOO passe! > > Toss out the Captcha and make use of CFFormProtect, available from > RIAForge.com ;-) > > No extra user input, coupled to Akismet and Project Honeypot, and all CFC > ;-) > > > > Sebastiaan > > = > > So long and thanx 4 all the fish > > > > ==> Onlinebase.nl > >> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:51:58 -0700 > >> Subject: Re: ADA Captcha > >> From: h...@ilsweb.com > >> To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > >> > >> > >> Dave Watts wrote: > >> > While I do think you're right about reCAPTCHA being ADA-compliant, I > >> > would still recommend avoiding the use of CAPTCHAs at all. "ADA > >> > compliant" doesn't necessarily equate with "easy to use". > >> > >> While I don't disagree that there are costs and cons to weigh when using > >> a captcha. I find the Carnegie-Mellon one to be less annoying then > >> most. They don't do *really* funky things with the words like toss the > >> letters like salad or use horrid backgrounds. They actually use the > >> creative idea of taking a fairly human readable word that has already > >> failed computer recognition when it was scanned and OCR'ed from a > >> digitalization project, currently the NY Times. And combines this with > >> a word that has already been solved by humans. > >> > >> Thus you get a pair of fairly straight forward words that have always > >> been simple for me to understand at least. That has not always been > >> true with other, more homegrown captcha systems. Plus you get the > >> community benefit of helping digitalize pre-computer printed works. I > >> feel that offsets quite a bit of the cons of captcha's in general. As > >> well as that Carnegie-Mellon has also included the ADA compliance > portion. > >> > >> But, as always, your (general) millage may vary and only you (general) > >> can make the decision on what is best for your (general) given project > >> of the day. > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325224 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ADA Captcha
I found CFFormProtect to be very hard to configure and set up (in fusebox). reCapatcha, I set up in about 4 mins. (just did it) and it works perfectly. On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Sebastiaan GMC van Dijk wrote: > > Captcha's are SOOO passe! > Toss out the Captcha and make use of CFFormProtect, available from > RIAForge.com ;-) > No extra user input, coupled to Akismet and Project Honeypot, and all CFC ;-) > > Sebastiaan > = > So long and thanx 4 all the fish > > ==> Onlinebase.nl >> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:51:58 -0700 >> Subject: Re: ADA Captcha >> From: h...@ilsweb.com >> To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com >> >> >> Dave Watts wrote: >> > While I do think you're right about reCAPTCHA being ADA-compliant, I >> > would still recommend avoiding the use of CAPTCHAs at all. "ADA >> > compliant" doesn't necessarily equate with "easy to use". >> >> While I don't disagree that there are costs and cons to weigh when using >> a captcha. I find the Carnegie-Mellon one to be less annoying then >> most. They don't do *really* funky things with the words like toss the >> letters like salad or use horrid backgrounds. They actually use the >> creative idea of taking a fairly human readable word that has already >> failed computer recognition when it was scanned and OCR'ed from a >> digitalization project, currently the NY Times. And combines this with >> a word that has already been solved by humans. >> >> Thus you get a pair of fairly straight forward words that have always >> been simple for me to understand at least. That has not always been >> true with other, more homegrown captcha systems. Plus you get the >> community benefit of helping digitalize pre-computer printed works. I >> feel that offsets quite a bit of the cons of captcha's in general. As >> well as that Carnegie-Mellon has also included the ADA compliance portion. >> >> But, as always, your (general) millage may vary and only you (general) >> can make the decision on what is best for your (general) given project >> of the day. >> >> > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ADA Captcha
Captcha's are SOOO passe! Toss out the Captcha and make use of CFFormProtect, available from RIAForge.com ;-) No extra user input, coupled to Akismet and Project Honeypot, and all CFC ;-) Sebastiaan = So long and thanx 4 all the fish ==> Onlinebase.nl > Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:51:58 -0700 > Subject: Re: ADA Captcha > From: h...@ilsweb.com > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > > > Dave Watts wrote: > > While I do think you're right about reCAPTCHA being ADA-compliant, I > > would still recommend avoiding the use of CAPTCHAs at all. "ADA > > compliant" doesn't necessarily equate with "easy to use". > > While I don't disagree that there are costs and cons to weigh when using > a captcha. I find the Carnegie-Mellon one to be less annoying then > most. They don't do *really* funky things with the words like toss the > letters like salad or use horrid backgrounds. They actually use the > creative idea of taking a fairly human readable word that has already > failed computer recognition when it was scanned and OCR'ed from a > digitalization project, currently the NY Times. And combines this with > a word that has already been solved by humans. > > Thus you get a pair of fairly straight forward words that have always > been simple for me to understand at least. That has not always been > true with other, more homegrown captcha systems. Plus you get the > community benefit of helping digitalize pre-computer printed works. I > feel that offsets quite a bit of the cons of captcha's in general. As > well as that Carnegie-Mellon has also included the ADA compliance portion. > > But, as always, your (general) millage may vary and only you (general) > can make the decision on what is best for your (general) given project > of the day. > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ADA Captcha
Dave Watts wrote: > While I do think you're right about reCAPTCHA being ADA-compliant, I > would still recommend avoiding the use of CAPTCHAs at all. "ADA > compliant" doesn't necessarily equate with "easy to use". While I don't disagree that there are costs and cons to weigh when using a captcha. I find the Carnegie-Mellon one to be less annoying then most. They don't do *really* funky things with the words like toss the letters like salad or use horrid backgrounds. They actually use the creative idea of taking a fairly human readable word that has already failed computer recognition when it was scanned and OCR'ed from a digitalization project, currently the NY Times. And combines this with a word that has already been solved by humans. Thus you get a pair of fairly straight forward words that have always been simple for me to understand at least. That has not always been true with other, more homegrown captcha systems. Plus you get the community benefit of helping digitalize pre-computer printed works. I feel that offsets quite a bit of the cons of captcha's in general. As well as that Carnegie-Mellon has also included the ADA compliance portion. But, as always, your (general) millage may vary and only you (general) can make the decision on what is best for your (general) given project of the day. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ADA Captcha
> > However, it doesn't fit the order for this site. I need something ADA > > compliant. I was looking at RE-captcha or something like that? anyone have > > anything free and easy for ADA captcha? > > As I understand it, Carnegie-Mellon's re-capcha program is ADA > compliant, free to use, and you are helping million of pages of > digitally scanned documents getting transcribed into machine readable data. While I do think you're right about reCAPTCHA being ADA-compliant, I would still recommend avoiding the use of CAPTCHAs at all. "ADA compliant" doesn't necessarily equate with "easy to use". Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ADA Captcha
Dan Baughman wrote: > So I finally actually had an opportunity to use ColdFusion's new captch > image generator.. easy enough. > > However, it doesn't fit the order for this site. I need something ADA > compliant. I was looking at RE-captcha or something like that? anyone have > anything free and easy for ADA captcha? > > Dan As I understand it, Carnegie-Mellon's re-capcha program is ADA compliant, free to use, and you are helping million of pages of digitally scanned documents getting transcribed into machine readable data. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325200 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ADA Captcha
> So I finally actually had an opportunity to use ColdFusion's new captch > image generator.. easy enough. > > However, it doesn't fit the order for this site. I need something ADA > compliant. I was looking at RE-captcha or something like that? anyone have > anything free and easy for ADA captcha? Like a surprise, the best CAPTCHA is no CAPTCHA: http://cfformprotect.riaforge.org/ Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
ADA Captcha
So I finally actually had an opportunity to use ColdFusion's new captch image generator.. easy enough. However, it doesn't fit the order for this site. I need something ADA compliant. I was looking at RE-captcha or something like that? anyone have anything free and easy for ADA captcha? Dan ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:325197 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
