RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
http://www.wiki.org/ Shawn -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents Me too. I did find bits and pieces here and there but nothing comprehensive. It seems like someone would have this somewhere but I sure couldn't find it. That's why I asked... And what's a "wiki" anyway? Chris -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I'm surprised that there isn't a site out there already. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Ryan Kime [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents Someone set up a wiki, and we'll get started. -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've ran into situations where a site like this would be very valuable. It would be great to take it a step further, with PHP comparisons as well. You could deal with each task (CF tag) individually, as well as compare small sample applications that demonstrated how things works together. I could see this helping CF, ASP, & PHP developers who are curious about how do do something in one of the other languages. I think the site would be easy to create if it were a community based, where developers could contribute how you might handle tasks in each language. I'm sure best practices would be something to consider as well, since different people will have their own opinions on how to best accomplish a task. Just some thoughts, Brad _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
Me too. I did find bits and pieces here and there but nothing comprehensive. It seems like someone would have this somewhere but I sure couldn't find it. That's why I asked... And what's a "wiki" anyway? Chris -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I'm surprised that there isn't a site out there already. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Ryan Kime [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents Someone set up a wiki, and we'll get started. -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've ran into situations where a site like this would be very valuable. It would be great to take it a step further, with PHP comparisons as well. You could deal with each task (CF tag) individually, as well as compare small sample applications that demonstrated how things works together. I could see this helping CF, ASP, & PHP developers who are curious about how do do something in one of the other languages. I think the site would be easy to create if it were a community based, where developers could contribute how you might handle tasks in each language. I'm sure best practices would be something to consider as well, since different people will have their own opinions on how to best accomplish a task. Just some thoughts, Brad _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
I'm surprised that there isn't a site out there already. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Ryan Kime [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents Someone set up a wiki, and we'll get started. -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've ran into situations where a site like this would be very valuable. It would be great to take it a step further, with PHP comparisons as well. You could deal with each task (CF tag) individually, as well as compare small sample applications that demonstrated how things works together. I could see this helping CF, ASP, & PHP developers who are curious about how do do something in one of the other languages. I think the site would be easy to create if it were a community based, where developers could contribute how you might handle tasks in each language. I'm sure best practices would be something to consider as well, since different people will have their own opinions on how to best accomplish a task. Just some thoughts, Brad _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
Someone set up a wiki, and we'll get started. -Original Message- From: Brad Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've ran into situations where a site like this would be very valuable. It would be great to take it a step further, with PHP comparisons as well. You could deal with each task (CF tag) individually, as well as compare small sample applications that demonstrated how things works together. I could see this helping CF, ASP, & PHP developers who are curious about how do do something in one of the other languages. I think the site would be easy to create if it were a community based, where developers could contribute how you might handle tasks in each language. I'm sure best practices would be something to consider as well, since different people will have their own opinions on how to best accomplish a task. Just some thoughts, Brad [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
I've ran into situations where a site like this would be very valuable. It would be great to take it a step further, with PHP comparisons as well. You could deal with each task (CF tag) individually, as well as compare small sample applications that demonstrated how things works together. I could see this helping CF, ASP, & PHP developers who are curious about how do do something in one of the other languages. I think the site would be easy to create if it were a community based, where developers could contribute how you might handle tasks in each language. I'm sure best practices would be something to consider as well, since different people will have their own opinions on how to best accomplish a task. Just some thoughts, Brad -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've got a cheap ASP book but the index is poor and I'm wasting a lot of time hunting for info. A comparison would be easier/more useful. Also, I didn't think that the Dim statement really replicates the way a CFPARAM tag sets a default value if the variable is undefined. Won't Dim overwrite the variable if it already exists? These are the kinds of things I'd like to know as a CF developer who occasionally needs to work with ASP. Maybe I just need to make a web site "ASP for CF Developers"... Chris -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents In asp it would just be setting a declaring a var Eample: Dim myString As String I have not really seen any site or book with the chart you are seeking. Pick up a cheap ASP 3 book. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFML/ASP equivalents Does anyone know of a resource that shows the ASP equivalents for CFML? Like what is the ASP equivalent for CFPARAM? A chart would be great. I've Googled it but haven't found anything. Thanks, Chris _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
What are you trying to do? Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've got a cheap ASP book but the index is poor and I'm wasting a lot of time hunting for info. A comparison would be easier/more useful. Also, I didn't think that the Dim statement really replicates the way a CFPARAM tag sets a default value if the variable is undefined. Won't Dim overwrite the variable if it already exists? These are the kinds of things I'd like to know as a CF developer who occasionally needs to work with ASP. Maybe I just need to make a web site "ASP for CF Developers"... Chris -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents In asp it would just be setting a declaring a var Eample: Dim myString As String I have not really seen any site or book with the chart you are seeking. Pick up a cheap ASP 3 book. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFML/ASP equivalents Does anyone know of a resource that shows the ASP equivalents for CFML? Like what is the ASP equivalent for CFPARAM? A chart would be great. I've Googled it but haven't found anything. Thanks, Chris _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
I just tested this : testVar = "Hello World" Dim testVar response.write testVar and it still wrote out the value There really isn't anything in asp that works like CFPARAM. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents I've got a cheap ASP book but the index is poor and I'm wasting a lot of time hunting for info. A comparison would be easier/more useful. Also, I didn't think that the Dim statement really replicates the way a CFPARAM tag sets a default value if the variable is undefined. Won't Dim overwrite the variable if it already exists? These are the kinds of things I'd like to know as a CF developer who occasionally needs to work with ASP. Maybe I just need to make a web site "ASP for CF Developers"... Chris -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents In asp it would just be setting a declaring a var Eample: Dim myString As String I have not really seen any site or book with the chart you are seeking. Pick up a cheap ASP 3 book. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFML/ASP equivalents Does anyone know of a resource that shows the ASP equivalents for CFML? Like what is the ASP equivalent for CFPARAM? A chart would be great. I've Googled it but haven't found anything. Thanks, Chris _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
I've got a cheap ASP book but the index is poor and I'm wasting a lot of time hunting for info. A comparison would be easier/more useful. Also, I didn't think that the Dim statement really replicates the way a CFPARAM tag sets a default value if the variable is undefined. Won't Dim overwrite the variable if it already exists? These are the kinds of things I'd like to know as a CF developer who occasionally needs to work with ASP. Maybe I just need to make a web site "ASP for CF Developers"... Chris -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:16 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFML/ASP equivalents In asp it would just be setting a declaring a var Eample: Dim myString As String I have not really seen any site or book with the chart you are seeking. Pick up a cheap ASP 3 book. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFML/ASP equivalents Does anyone know of a resource that shows the ASP equivalents for CFML? Like what is the ASP equivalent for CFPARAM? A chart would be great. I've Googled it but haven't found anything. Thanks, Chris _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFML/ASP equivalents
In asp it would just be setting a declaring a var Eample: Dim myString As String I have not really seen any site or book with the chart you are seeking. Pick up a cheap ASP 3 book. Shawn Regan -Original Message- From: Lofback, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFML/ASP equivalents Does anyone know of a resource that shows the ASP equivalents for CFML? Like what is the ASP equivalent for CFPARAM? A chart would be great. I've Googled it but haven't found anything. Thanks, Chris _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
CFML/ASP equivalents
Does anyone know of a resource that shows the ASP equivalents for CFML? Like what is the ASP equivalent for CFPARAM? A chart would be great. I've Googled it but haven't found anything. Thanks, Chris [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: OT: CF - PHP - ASP Equivalents
The best thing to do is go to the websites that have tutorials and code snippets. For php - www.phpbuilder.com For asp - www.asp101.com There are many, many more sites but these will get you started. HTH -- Clint Tredway -- Through Him, anything is possible. > Anyone know of a reference that has all of the CF tags/functions with a PHP, > and/or ASP equivalent? > > I've been using CF for about 3 years now and would like to pick up a second > skill. I think something like this might be a good starter. I'm tired of > getting a project and finding out the client will not change hosts. > > BTW, I've read the articles on bombusbee.com already (very good). > > Thanks > > __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: CF - PHP - ASP Equivalents
Anyone know of a reference that has all of the CF tags/functions with a PHP, and/or ASP equivalent? I've been using CF for about 3 years now and would like to pick up a second skill. I think something like this might be a good starter. I'm tired of getting a project and finding out the client will not change hosts. BTW, I've read the articles on bombusbee.com already (very good). Thanks __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
Hey, hey, hey ... don't make jokes about our customer's ASP. I feel like an ASP just using it. Chris Norloff -- Original Message -- from: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 14:05:39 -0800 >He's not developing an ASP he's using ASP to develop an app (and we'll nev er for give him for >it...hehe) ;-) > >Bryan Stevenson >VP & Director of E-Commerce Development >Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. >p. 250.920.8830 >e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] >- >Macromedia Associate Partner >www.macromedia.com > >- Original Message - >From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM >Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? > > >> what language are you using for your ASP? >> >> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: >> >> > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) bu t t >> he customer is adamant. >> > >> > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: >> > >> > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session sco >> pe variables as we do in application.cfm >> > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) >> > 3. cfquery >> > 4. cfinclude >> > 5. cfswitch/cfcase >> > 6. cfparam >> > 7. isDefined() function >> > 8. cfoutput, cfloop >> > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) >> > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tel >> l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) >> > 11. Structs (see 10) >> > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way tha >> t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif e xpr >> ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my >> select option tags for handling complex option lists. >> > 13. Date functions like in CF? >> > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a da >> tasource and debugging info? >> > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilit ies >> > >> > >> > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ASP Equivalents?
We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but the
customer is adamant.
Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for:
1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session scope
variables as we do in application.cfm
Global.asa
2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template)
COM Objects, included templates have access to globally available variables.
3. cfquery
Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recorset")
4. cfinclude
Server.execute or
5. cfswitch/cfcase
Select/Case
6. cfparam
Dim, although you cannot define a default value.
7. isDefined() function
Option Explicit at the top of the page. Forces variable declaration prior to
use.
8. cfoutput, cfloop
While NOT rs.myrecordset EOF
Rs.myrecordset.movenext
Looping is achieved via any of the accepted looping structures...
While...Wend, For Each...Next, For...Next, Do...Loop
9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt())
Mid, left, right, len, etc... You'll have to roll your own.
10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tell
us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't)
11. Structs (see 10)
You'll have to roll most of these yourself.
12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way that
CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif
expression within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in
my select option tags for handling complex option lists.
Sure, just embed <% your asp stuff here %>...
13. Date functions like in CF?
Check the VBScript documentation
14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a
datasource and debugging info?
Ha!!! Try the command line or the Server console.
15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities
MS indexing service. Enjoy the documentation.
===
Do yourself a favor and buy a good book on ASP (I like the WROX professional
ASP 3.0 myself...). Try to convert as much of your code to CFSCRIPT this
will make the conversion easier.
Good Luck,
Jeff
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Re: ASP Equivalents?
You really want to stick with VBScript (in ASP 2/3), since 99% of all examples will be in that language, and it seems to be the easiest of those listed to learn (you may already know JScript, but there alot of difference between server-side and client-side coding) - Original Message - From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? > I mean what language are you using for your Active Server Page? You can > write them in perl, python, javascript, vbscript, and probably many more > languages. > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > > > He's not developing an ASP he's using ASP to develop an app (and we'll ne > ver for give him for > > it...hehe) ;-) > > > > Bryan Stevenson > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > p. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM > > Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? > > > > > > > what language are you using for your ASP? > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > > > > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) b > ut t > > > he customer is adamant. > > > > > > > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: > > > > > > > > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session > sco > > > pe variables as we do in application.cfm > > > > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) > > > > 3. cfquery > > > > 4. cfinclude > > > > 5. cfswitch/cfcase > > > > 6. cfparam > > > > 7. isDefined() function > > > > 8. cfoutput, cfloop > > > > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) > > > > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just > tel > > > l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) > > > > 11. Structs (see 10) > > > > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way > tha > > > t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif > expr > > > ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in > my > > > select option tags for handling complex option lists. > > > > 13. Date functions like in CF? > > > > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up > a da > > > tasource and debugging info? > > > > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabili > ties > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
Well, a number of those features don't exist in ASP. Things like application.cfm, "custom tags", list manipulation functions. You'll need to reproduce some CF functionality, and rethink how you architect your application. It sounds to me like you're coming at this fresh - if so, I'd look at ASP.NET as opposed to ASP 2/3. ASP.NET is far more robust; plus it has the performance advantages that Neo will have. Also, I find the code much cleaner a closer to a tag-based syntax than 2/3. This depends entirely on the hosting situation, however. There's a number of good ASP websites out there; also, I recommend the Wrox series of books. However, there really isn't a "CF 2 ASP" resource out there. I've begun to start one (www.cfasp.com), but at this point, it only has a message board. I'll attempt to cover your points, as best I can: (ASP 2/3) 1. you can't initialize the same way that you can in application.cfm - however, when the app starts, you can initialize application and session scopes in global.asa - note that there is no "client" scope in ASP 2. there is no CFModule - if you're wanting to encapsulate functionality, you'll need to write components (most likely in VB) - of course, you can include files just as in CF - note that in ASP, you can't "conditionally" include files as in CF - you might want to look at server.execute and server.transfer as some other options 3. ADO - it's all over the web, and there's plenty of examples out there - get ready to totally rethink how you query the database (of course, CF does the same things, but abstracts it for you) 4. SSI - 5. very similar in VBScript - get the VBScript docs at msdn.microsoft.com/scripting 6. no such critter - in VBScript, you don't have to initialize variables - "unitialized" vars are simply zero-length strings 7. see #6 - everything isDefined() 8. see For/While loops in VBScript docs - also see ADO stuff - keep in mind that ADO recordsets require you to manually iterate over the recordset, as opposed to cfoutput that does it for you 9. you'll have to reproduce these yourself 10. most of the "rich" array functions aren't present - you can read/write arrays, get the UBound() and LBound(), but that's about it 11. no structs per se - you'll need to look at using the Dictionary object to reproduce most of the CF functionality - it's so much trouble, I usually ignore lists and structs and stick with arrays 12. absolutely: selected<% end if %>> 13. Most of the date functions are there - for the most part, they even have the same name 14. Administrative functions - hahahahaha - it's called IIS - this will be quite a paradigm shift - debugging, there is a script debugger server-side, but this is more like traditional application debugging - if you want to see recordset, url, form, etc info, you'll need to put it in yourself (note that ASP.NET has some serious debugging output options though) 15. index server - this is a whole other beast - I highly recommend some good reading here (note that this is more for files, not for recordsets) Good luck! - Original Message - From: "Chris Norloff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: ASP Equivalents? > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but the customer is adamant. > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: > > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session scope variables as we do in application.cfm > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) > 3. cfquery > 4. cfinclude > 5. cfswitch/cfcase > 6. cfparam > 7. isDefined() function > 8. cfoutput, cfloop > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tell us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) > 11. Structs (see 10) > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way that CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expression within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my select option tags for handling complex option lists. > 13. Date functions like in CF? > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a datasource and debugging info? > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
I mean what language are you using for your Active Server Page? You can write them in perl, python, javascript, vbscript, and probably many more languages. On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > He's not developing an ASP he's using ASP to develop an app (and we'll ne ver for give him for > it...hehe) ;-) > > Bryan Stevenson > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > p. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? > > > > what language are you using for your ASP? > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) b ut t > > he customer is adamant. > > > > > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: > > > > > > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session sco > > pe variables as we do in application.cfm > > > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) > > > 3. cfquery > > > 4. cfinclude > > > 5. cfswitch/cfcase > > > 6. cfparam > > > 7. isDefined() function > > > 8. cfoutput, cfloop > > > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) > > > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tel > > l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) > > > 11. Structs (see 10) > > > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way tha > > t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expr > > ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my > > select option tags for handling complex option lists. > > > 13. Date functions like in CF? > > > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a da > > tasource and debugging info? > > > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabili ties > > > > > > > > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: ASP Equivalents?
Alex, if this is a commercial venture for your client the cost of the ASP based app will likely be far higher than a ColdFusion based one, it does not take long to eat up the $1,300.00 for a copy of CF Pro in extra developer hours. In addition they will be locked into a WinTel platform without expensive middleware, with CF they can run any many different platforms. I know you probably realize these things, good luck. Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "To define recursion, we must first define recursion." -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? what language are you using for your ASP? On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but t he customer is adamant. > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: > > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session sco pe variables as we do in application.cfm > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) > 3. cfquery > 4. cfinclude > 5. cfswitch/cfcase > 6. cfparam > 7. isDefined() function > 8. cfoutput, cfloop > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tel l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) > 11. Structs (see 10) > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way tha t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expr ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my select option tags for handling complex option lists. > 13. Date functions like in CF? > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a da tasource and debugging info? > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
He's not developing an ASP he's using ASP to develop an app (and we'll never for give him for it...hehe) ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Original Message - From: "Alex" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:43 PM Subject: Re: ASP Equivalents? > what language are you using for your ASP? > > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: > > > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but t > he customer is adamant. > > > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: > > > > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session sco > pe variables as we do in application.cfm > > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) > > 3. cfquery > > 4. cfinclude > > 5. cfswitch/cfcase > > 6. cfparam > > 7. isDefined() function > > 8. cfoutput, cfloop > > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) > > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tel > l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) > > 11. Structs (see 10) > > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way tha > t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expr > ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my > select option tags for handling complex option lists. > > 13. Date functions like in CF? > > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a da > tasource and debugging info? > > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities > > > > > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
what language are you using for your ASP? On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Chris Norloff wrote: > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but t he customer is adamant. > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: > > 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session sco pe variables as we do in application.cfm > 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) > 3. cfquery > 4. cfinclude > 5. cfswitch/cfcase > 6. cfparam > 7. isDefined() function > 8. cfoutput, cfloop > 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) > 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tel l us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) > 11. Structs (see 10) > 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way tha t CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expr ession within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my select option tags for handling complex option lists. > 13. Date functions like in CF? > 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a da tasource and debugging info? > 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities > > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: ASP Equivalents?
Chris Norloff wrote: > We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but the customer >is adamant. > > Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: ASP in a Nutshell, from the O'Reilly Zoo. Jochem __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
ASP Equivalents?
We need to build an app using ASP. We'd rather use CF (of course!) but the customer is adamant. Anybody know a good source for getting "ASP equivalents" for: 1. creating and initializing server, client, application, and session scope variables as we do in application.cfm 2. cfmodule (or passing variables to parameters in a given template) 3. cfquery 4. cfinclude 5. cfswitch/cfcase 6. cfparam 7. isDefined() function 8. cfoutput, cfloop 9. List functions (particularly, ListGetAt()) 10. Array functions (you don't have to go through all functions, just tell us if there's anything outstanding that CF has that asp doesn't) 11. Structs (see 10) 12. Can we embed conditional expressions in HTML tags in the same way that CF allows us to? For instance, can we do something similar to a cfif expression within an HTML tag? If so, how is this done? I use this a lot in my select option tags for handling complex option lists. 13. Date functions like in CF? 14. Administrative functions like those in CF Admin, like setting up a datasource and debugging info? 15. Installing and configuring an Index server for searching capabilities __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
