Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Will Blackie said:

 I've tried changing over a few of my sites to use the access unicode
 driver but i suspect that without changing them all i may not see
 any dramatic improvement - the server is still crashing pretty
 regularly.

When it crashes, are the sites that use the access unicode driver
still up like MS SQL Server or are they down like the normal Access
sites?

Jochem
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RE: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-01 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT)
Jochem,

 
I tried looking for the unicode driver in the drop down, but all that is
listed is Access.The dropdown you are talking about is on the CFA
Datasources page right (Add datasource above a listing of all the current
datasources).

 
Steve

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Josen Ruiseco wrote:

 Is the unicode driver just useful for Access or will it stabilize Sql 
 Server 2000 also? Where can it be found?

Access only, and it is just in the dropdown menu.

For MS SQL Server, use the JDBC driver from Microsoft.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-01 Thread Jochem van Dieten
DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:

 I tried looking for the unicode driver in the drop down, but all that is
 listed is Access.The dropdown you are talking about is on the CFA
 Datasources page right (Add datasource above a listing of all the current
 datasources).

Should be there:
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/dataso11.htm#wp1255395

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RE: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-01 Thread Donnie Bachan
It's the one that says Microsoft Access with Unicode, that one worked for 
me. It's on all of our servers by default upon installing CFMX.

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Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-01 Thread Will Blackie
Thanks for the responses that have been posted with regard to this problem a
few of us are experiencing.Just to recap for anyone new looking at this
post that might be helpful I have a windows 200 server running CFMX 6.1 that
keeps crashing - the sites running an access database are unable to get a
connection to their db's (Error Executing Database Query.Timed out trying
to establish connection The specific sequence of files included or processed
is:) other sites running SQL Server continue on fine, we even have a
site or 2 built in ASP that use access databases and they continue to work
perfectly.The only way to rescue the server seems to be a full restart.

I've tried changing over a few of my sites to use the access unicode driver
but i suspect that without changing them all i may not see any dramatic
improvement - the server is still crashing pretty regularly.We ran the
server via the command prompt so that the output to be piped to a text file
for analysis, the following is the message it gives right before the server
needs to be restarted.

#
# HotSpot Virtual Machine Error, Internal Error
# Please report this error at
# http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (1.4.2-b28 mixed mode)
#
# Error ID: 53414645504F494E540E4350500159
#
# Problematic Thread: prio=5 tid=0x3841e410 nid=0xfdc runnable
#
Heap at VM Abort:
Heap
PSYoungGen total 43264K, used 28288K [0x1001, 0x138f, 0x138f)
eden space 28288K, 100% used [0x1001,0x11bb,0x11bb)
from space 14976K, 0% used [0x12a5,0x12a5,0x138f)
to space 14976K, 0% used [0x11bb,0x11bb,0x12a5)
PSOldGen total 466048K, used 466048K [0x138f, 0x3001, 0x3001)
object space 466048K, 100% used [0x138f,0x3001,0x3001)
PSPermGen total 30720K, used 30600K [0x3001, 0x31e1, 0x3801)
object space 30720K, 99% used [0x3001,0x31df2150,0x31e1)

We've reported it as instructed but I was hoping that someone might be able
to shed some light on this from a Coldfusion perspective rather than just
the JVM.

Thanks again,
Will
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-01 Thread peter . tilbrook
Is it crucial to run with MSAccess? It was never really designed for this
use and is more suited to the desktop environment. MSSQL Server would be
easy to upgrade to or if on a tight budget MySQL.

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Symonston ACT 2609

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-03-01 Thread Rob
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 15:14, Will Blackie wrote:
 # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error, Internal Error
 # Please report this error at
 # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
 #
 # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (1.4.2-b28 mixed mode)
Not sure if it will help but there is a newer JVM out 1.4.2_03 (the b28
is a beta version I believe). 

VM crashes really really suck :(

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Nick de Voil
 My companies live hosting server was recently upgraded to Coldfusion 
 MX6.1 .. and the latest MDAC / Jet Drivers have been updated also.
 The problem is that all coldfusion sites on the server using access 
 db's stop working every 2 days or so (more often if traffic is high).. 
 the only way to get it running again is to restart the whole server.

We certainly have this problem too, I just don't know the solution. Does anyone else?

Nick
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Donnie Bachan
We are experiencing this problem also. I have tried the hotfixes on 
Macromedia's site, which do not really apply to MS Access but it couldn't 
hurt. We have an application that requires a large recordset to be returned 
(~1 records), CFQUERY caching helps somewhat but the problem exists 
whenever the cache is cleared.
I think that Access just cannot handle the load, the ODBC Server hangs 
first, then CFMX Server. When I notice the spiking, I restart CFMX Server 
first, then the ODBC Server and finally the ODBC Client in that order, that 
prevents me from rebooting the entire server. Nothing I have tried has 
really helped other than employing my own caching strategy using Application 
variables, but the dataset is so large that Access chokes. I will be moving 
the app over to MySQL pretty soon but I was holding out for MySQL 4.1 to be 
released in full before I do so because we have some queries with subqueries 
that cannot be rewritten.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Donnie Bachan said:
 We are experiencing this problem also. I have tried the hotfixes on
 Macromedia's site, which do not really apply to MS Access but it
 couldn'thurt. We have an application that requires a large
 recordset to be returned(~1 records), CFQUERY caching helps
 somewhat but the problem existswhenever the cache is cleared.
 I think that Access just cannot handle the load, the ODBC Server
 hangsfirst

Have you tried the unicode driver?

Jochem
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Nick de Voil
Jochem

 
 Have you tried the unicode driver?

Any particular reason why this might help?

Nick
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Nick de Voil said:

 Have you tried the unicode driver?

 Any particular reason why this might help?

It doesn't use the ODBC workaround. People have also reported dramatic
speed improvements with large datasets using this driver.

Jochem
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Nick de Voil
Jochem

 It doesn't use the ODBC workaround. People have also reported dramatic
 speed improvements with large datasets using this driver.

OK, very interesting, thanks.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Donnie Bachan
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
Have you tried the unicode driver?

No I haven't actually, going to try this now. I am willing to try anything 
at this point!

Thanks!

Best Regards,
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Donnie Bachan
This seems to have done the trick for the time being. It is too early to 
really tell if it has cured all my woes but my preliminary tests have been 
successful and the system isn't hanging as before with the exact same tests. 
The speed has improved significantly as well!

Thanks Johcem!

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Josen Ruiseco
Is the unicode driver just useful for Access or will it stabilize Sql 
Server 2000 also? Where can it be found?

Josen
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Donnie Bachan said:
 We are experiencing this problem also. I have tried the hotfixes on
 Macromedia's site, which do not really apply to MS Access but it
 couldn'thurt. We have an application that requires a large
 recordset to be returned(~1 records), CFQUERY caching helps
 somewhat but the problem existswhenever the cache is cleared.
 I think that Access just cannot handle the load, the ODBC Server
 hangsfirst

Have you tried the unicode driver?

Jochem
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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Josen Ruiseco wrote:

 Is the unicode driver just useful for Access or will it stabilize Sql 
 Server 2000 also? Where can it be found?

Access only, and it is just in the dropdown menu.

For MS SQL Server, use the JDBC driver from Microsoft.

Jochem

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RE: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Dave Watts
 For MS SQL Server, use the JDBC driver from Microsoft.

Jochem, have you run into any issues with that? I've only started testing
it. Have you compared it with the latest DataDirect Connect for JDBC
version?

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dave Watts wrote:
 For MS SQL Server, use the JDBC driver from Microsoft.
 
 Jochem, have you run into any issues with that? I've only started testing
 it. Have you compared it with the latest DataDirect Connect for JDBC
 version?

I don't use MS SQL Server so I haven't compared it, but IIRC Paul 
Hastings recommends it.
But the most important thing from this thread appears to be that 
people need to stop using the JDBC-ODBC bridge (Type 1) and 
switch to a JDBC Type 3 or Type 4 driver. Even if it is just to 
shut down 2 more daemons :-)

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Phillip Beazley
At 12:28 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:

I don't use MS SQL Server so I haven't compared it, but IIRC Paul
Hastings recommends it.
But the most important thing from this thread appears to be that
people need to stop using the JDBC-ODBC bridge (Type 1) and
switch to a JDBC Type 3 or Type 4 driver. Even if it is just to
shut down 2 more daemons :-)

I use another application language that can only access ODBC, 
unfortunately, and I'm having issues with it reading Unicode data correctly 
(CFMX reads it just fine, but it's obviously not using ODBC).Are there 
any options for bridging there?

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Josen Ruiseco
Regarding the Microsoft JDBC driver, have you heard if that lessens or 
elimiantes the Could not connect to JRUN Server error?

Josen 

Josen Ruiseco wrote:

 Is the unicode driver just useful for Access or will it stabilize Sql 
 Server 2000 also? Where can it be found?

Access only, and it is just in the dropdown menu.

For MS SQL Server, use the JDBC driver from Microsoft.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Phillip Beazley wrote:
 At 12:28 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:
 
 I don't use MS SQL Server so I haven't compared it, but IIRC Paul
 Hastings recommends it.
 But the most important thing from this thread appears to be that
 people need to stop using the JDBC-ODBC bridge (Type 1) and
 switch to a JDBC Type 3 or Type 4 driver. Even if it is just to
 shut down 2 more daemons :-)
 
 I use another application language that can only access ODBC, 
 unfortunately, and I'm having issues with it reading Unicode data correctly 
 (CFMX reads it just fine, but it's obviously not using ODBC).Are there 
 any options for bridging there?

You might want to ask that on a mailinglist for that application 
language.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Phillip Beazley
At 04:43 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:

You might want to ask that on a mailinglist for that application
language.

It can only use ODBC, period.I was wondering if there was an ODBC-to-JDBC 
bridge thingy, to bypass this problem.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Dick Applebaum
You might find a solution at OpenLink -- I was able to interface CFMX 
OS X to An Access Database running under VirtualPC

http://oplweb.openlinksw.com/product/webmatrixst.asp (

HTH

Dick

On Feb 27, 2004, at 2:18 PM, Phillip Beazley wrote:

 At 04:43 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:

You might want to ask that on a mailinglist for that application
language.

It can only use ODBC, period.  I was wondering if there was an 
 ODBC-to-JDBC
bridge thingy, to bypass this problem.

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-27 Thread Phillip Beazley
At 06:54 PM 2/27/2004, you wrote:

You might find a solution at OpenLink -- I was able to interface CFMX
OS X to An Access Database running under VirtualPC

Will take a look.Thanks!

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Re: Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-24 Thread Jamie Jackson
If you've got it set to maintain connections in the administrator,
have you tried disabling that setting? If not, you might try that for
a few days, and see if the problem reoccurs.

Jamie

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:40:47 +1000, in cf-talk you wrote:

Please Help

My companies live hosting server was recently upgraded to Coldfusion MX6.1 .. and the latest MDAC / Jet Drivers have been updated also.The problem is that all coldfusion sites on the server using access db's stop working every 2 days or so (more often if traffic is high).. the only way to get it running again is to restart the whole server.

Has anyone had this problem and managed to fix it?I've run this hot-fix: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/conn_pool_hotfix.htm and it made no difference.We're re-installed MDAC 2.8, re-applied the latest security patch and re-installed JET several times... the only thing that has not been re-installed is the MX 6.1 updater.

The error message the sites throw is this: Error Executing Database Query.Timed out trying to establish connection The specific sequence of files included or processed is:


Thanks in advance.
Will


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Access Coldfusion MX6.1 problems...sites keep dying

2004-02-23 Thread Will Blackie
Please Help

My companies live hosting server was recently upgraded to Coldfusion MX6.1 .. and the latest MDAC / Jet Drivers have been updated also.The problem is that all coldfusion sites on the server using access db's stop working every 2 days or so (more often if traffic is high).. the only way to get it running again is to restart the whole server.

Has anyone had this problem and managed to fix it?I've run this hot-fix: http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/conn_pool_hotfix.htm and it made no difference.We're re-installed MDAC 2.8, re-applied the latest security patch and re-installed JET several times... the only thing that has not been re-installed is the MX 6.1 updater.

The error message the sites throw is this: Error Executing Database Query.Timed out trying to establish connection The specific sequence of files included or processed is:

Thanks in advance.
Will
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