Re: Accessibility testing
I guess the answer is most CF developers do not test! But then, accessibility compliance is just not as sexy a subject as the latest AIR thingie. I've been using the extensions for FF as well, but you have to be diligent and test each page as you create or edit it. >From my initial research, it looks like most of the automated tools out there >are designed to work with Visual Studio. That's a shame. BTW, just because a web page validates using Firefox tools does not necessarily mean it will make sense when a reader interprets it. When I finish researching this, I'll blog or post what I've found out. Not that I am expert either! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307673 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Accessibility testing
Oh hell, I'm not thinking at all. You could leverage the same libraries that parse things looking for alt tags and whatnot in live code, in some type of ANT process, I bet! I'm pretty sure something like jTidy or whatnot could get a good bit of the no-human-mind-needed type stuff. I think part of the problem is that you need a real person to assign value to various bits and whatnot. At least at some level. :D -- Wang Chi: You ready, Jack? Jack Burton: I was born ready. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM, James Holmes wrote: >> How would selenium help with accessibility testing? > > It parses the DOM, has a standard way of interacting with it, and it's > automatable? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307650 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Accessibility testing
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM, James Holmes wrote: > How would selenium help with accessibility testing? It parses the DOM, has a standard way of interacting with it, and it's automatable? That's about all I got. *g* Guess regression testing is all that's good for, tho. And I don't even know how it handles the tab key, if at all. Yeah, on second thought, I guess that was a no-go. =] Maybe something like neuromancer or whatever, that captures and plays back the whole deal would work? For regression testing, at least? Hmm... haven't really dedicated my "out of the box" thinking skills to the problem. :P There is a nifty solution to every problem, that much I'm pretty sure of. -- pretty sure. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307649 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Accessibility testing
How would selenium help with accessibility testing? On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:13 AM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it would be a safe bet that 98% of us should be testing > more... I know I should do it more often. > > perhaps some type of automated deal, as you suggest... h > selenium maybe? Hmmm... -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307645 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Accessibility testing
I think it would be a safe bet that 98% of us should be testing more... I know I should do it more often. perhaps some type of automated deal, as you suggest... h selenium maybe? Hmmm... Anyways, I usually use the plugins for Firefox, or else the sites themselves. I quick google will get you those tho. No nifty info for developer based whatnots besides manually initiated checking from me, sorry. Part of the problem used to be the standards themselves, but that's gotten MUCH better IMO (and I'm *no* expert). Let us know what you find out, if anything, please? Thanks On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have any experience using developer-based accessibility solutions > such as HiSoft's AccSoft, specifically with ColdFusion sites? > > If not, how do you test? Do you test? > > Thanks~ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307643 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Accessibility testing
Does anyone have any experience using developer-based accessibility solutions such as HiSoft's AccSoft, specifically with ColdFusion sites? If not, how do you test? Do you test? Thanks~ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:307631 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
