Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
On 4/26/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not an on-access scanner, only an on-demand scanner. > ah a subtle point that sailed past me :-) -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204586 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
On 4/26/05, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something to be aware of when running anti-virus program updates on a > server... Wow. Sounds nasty. This isn't the case with either F-Prot or Clam. I ran F-Prot's command-line version for years on my mail server when I was using IMail and Declude, which in turn runs any command-line scanner you plug into it. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204584 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Matt Robertson wrote: > > Surprised no one has mentioned ClamAV, which is free and open source. > The ClamWin gui seems to work nicely. No idea how effective it is > relative to other things though. It is not an on-access scanner, only an on-demand scanner. Works great for mail servers (they are amongst the fastest with their new definitions), not so good for desktops. Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204531 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Something to be aware of when running anti-virus program updates on a server... We had to reduce the frequency of updates when we discovered that the updates would cause the virus scanning service to restart each time. This would deny any incoming/outgoing requests to/from the server, and would drop the connections to our database server while the service restarted. Anyone completing a transaction at that time would lose their session data. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204505 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Speaking personally, I have been really happy with F-Prot. It costs I think $2 per year to license a computer (you have to purchase a minimum license count that takes the cost to $50... but bottom line is you can license an office-full of systems for fifty bucks a year where Norton et al wants a LOT more. Also F-Prot can schedule updates hourly or even more tightly I think. Hourly checks aren't too frequent in this era. Surprised no one has mentioned ClamAV, which is free and open source. The ClamWin gui seems to work nicely. No idea how effective it is relative to other things though. Still its free. Clam is running on my mail server (checking incoming mail) and F-Prot on my desktop. I pull mail from different places too, but I funnel it to my mail server, where a Bayesian+ gateway can have its way with it. Then Thunderbird's antispam filters get to do their thing and I see maybe 1-5 spams per week. Zero virii ever. .. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204484 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I use AVG on my servers and desktops. There is even an extension for my mail server (ArgoSoft) called VirusX that uses its engine to scan incoming mail before it delivered to your inbox. http://www.grisoft.com Rick ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204473 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> > That's how it fits into this. However, I do feel your anger > > about the suggestions and I'll quit suggesting it. > > I'm not angry. I just think that it's an absurd piece of advice. Don't stop > offering it on my account. hehehehe :) -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204316 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> > So, again, where exactly does switching your desktop OS fit > > into this? > > If you have many pop / imap accounts you have to control the > spam on the client because not all servers to do it for you - > not every one will filter spam correctly or at all so you're > going to have have client side filtering anyway. I like the > spam filter in Mail on OS X and Evolution with SpamAssassin > works pretty well on Linux > http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ - I don't think > either one of those are available on windows, and I find the > filter in outlook to be lame (though I hear thunderbird is > quite nice). Sometimes spam has a virus or other nasty as an > attachment. It is very often a MS office macro or some > executable that runs only on windows - so not running windows > clears up a bunch of problems free. There are plenty of Windows client-side spam filters, and as several people have mentioned, the Outlook 2003 filter works pretty well if you update it. You can certainly run SpamAssassin on Windows: http://www.openhandhome.com/howtosa.html > In summary, I like client side spam and virus filtering and I > find the tools on OS X and Linux to be in greater abundance > and more powerful. > You're also less likely to get infected with a virus without > having to buy, install, and maintain a bunch of other programs. Well, sure. The vast majority of viruses are written to work on Windows, and there are plenty of flaws with application integration, user rights, etc in Windows. But the fact is, it's very easy to avoid virus infections and spyware on Windows without buying, installing or maintaining anything, so using that as your sole justification for switching to another operating system (or, even worse, spending good money on another computer) is pretty thin. > That's how it fits into this. However, I do feel your anger > about the suggestions and I'll quit suggesting it. I'm not angry. I just think that it's an absurd piece of advice. Don't stop offering it on my account. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204314 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> So, again, where exactly does switching your desktop OS > fit into this? If you have many pop / imap accounts you have to control the spam on the client because not all servers to do it for you - not every one will filter spam correctly or at all so you're going to have have client side filtering anyway. I like the spam filter in Mail on OS X and Evolution with SpamAssassin works pretty well on Linux http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ - I don't think either one of those are available on windows, and I find the filter in outlook to be lame (though I hear thunderbird is quite nice). Sometimes spam has a virus or other nasty as an attachment. It is very often a MS office macro or some executable that runs only on windows - so not running windows clears up a bunch of problems free. In summary, I like client side spam and virus filtering and I find the tools on OS X and Linux to be in greater abundance and more powerful. You're also less likely to get infected with a virus without having to buy, install, and maintain a bunch of other programs. That's how it fits into this. However, I do feel your anger about the suggestions and I'll quit suggesting it. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204307 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I have found GFI mail essentials very good at detecting spam. When coupled with mail security which has 4 server side av engines, I never see virusus. The combo is pretty reasonably priced for an enterprise type solution. Work of windows relays or exchange vsi interface. Very pleased with this suite of products. http://www.gfi.com John Interested in Hiking in Washington State? Check out http://www.attrition.ws From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/25/2005 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > Mail filters on the client - plus this started out about > virii as well as spam spam spam spam You responded to a message comparing the pros and cons of client-side and server-side spam filtering, in which Jim explained that he finds it easier to manage client-side filters, in response to Jochem's recommendation of server-side filters to prevent you from having to download spam in order to filter it locally. So, again, where exactly does switching your desktop OS fit into this? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204299 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Jim Davis wrote: >>From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> The downside of all client side solutions is that you first have >> to download the email to the client and it is filtered only then. > > Too true - but the benefit is that for some people (like me) who chack many > email addresses through the same client (I'm up to about 12) I've got one > solution that does it for everything. A partial workaround would be to use fetchmail to consolidate email from all your accounts to one server (and then split it out using procmail again). I am saying partial workaround because that still does't allow you to do one crucial thing: reject instead of delete email. SMTP is typically a handshake between the servers, then they exchange some message headers and then the message DATA. Once the receiving server sends a OK in response to the DATA, it accepts full responsibility for that message. Any false positives in the virus / spam filtering after that are the responsibility of the postmaster. A postmaster can hardly send a notification about every filtered message because usually the from address of spam is faked (postmasters that do so should be executed), but if he doesn't he takes full responsibility. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. The solution is to filter even earlier, before sending the OK to the sending server. That effectively makes your problem the problem of the sender: the sender gets an error and can choose to retry or not (spam zombies never bother). Only if you use fetchmail you have already accepted the email (it has been accepted on your behalf), so you again have the false positives problem. And if you are really evil, you will use OpenBSDs pf/spamd to make life as miserable as possible on the sender :-) Jochem (from his brand new Linux desktop) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204298 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> Mail filters on the client - plus this started out about > virii as well as spam spam spam spam You responded to a message comparing the pros and cons of client-side and server-side spam filtering, in which Jim explained that he finds it easier to manage client-side filters, in response to Jochem's recommendation of server-side filters to prevent you from having to download spam in order to filter it locally. So, again, where exactly does switching your desktop OS fit into this? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204296 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I run McAfee Virus Scan ($35 US per/yr).ZoneAlarm.Linksys 4 port router...SpyBot Search & Destroy pretty cheapand *touch wood*...I rarely see a virus get cleaned...and very little ad/spy ware gets on my machine for spam...well...I just don't get that much...and what I do get the delete key takes care of quite nicely ;-) HTH Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204295 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
On 4/25/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All this upgrading, licensing updates, tweaking, and man > > hours sure does sound like it cost less and it much more > > enjoyable than an OS switch to me :-) > > How the heck would switching your desktop OS affect spam filtering on your > mail server? Mail filters on the client - plus this started out about virii as well as spam spam spam spam -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204293 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> All this upgrading, licensing updates, tweaking, and man > hours sure does sound like it cost less and it much more > enjoyable than an OS switch to me :-) How the heck would switching your desktop OS affect spam filtering on your mail server? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204289 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
On 4/25/05, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:01 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > > > > Kay Smoljak wrote: > > > > > > Do you install Microsoft's updates for 0utlook's Junk Mail Filter? > > > I've found since doing that, it's really quite good. I like keeping > > > the number of apps I have running to a minimum! > > > > The downside of all client side solutions is that you first have > > to download the email to the client and it is filtered only then. > > It is not that uncommon to receive a few thousand unwanted > > messages a day, and some badly written virusses are able to > > generate much more in a very short time. > > You really want to filter that out as early as possible. > > Too true - but the benefit is that for some people (like me) who chack many > email addresses through the same client (I'm up to about 12) I've got one > solution that does it for everything. > > Most of the servers I use offer some spam protection of their own, but I > still have to go up and check the "junk" folders manually for all them > individually. > > Using a client-side solution I have to wait for the download, but I > consolidate the work. > > Pros and cons all over. ;^) > > Jim Davis All this upgrading, licensing updates, tweaking, and man hours sure does sound like it cost less and it much more enjoyable than an OS switch to me :-) I am at my day job now -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204286 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> -Original Message- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:01 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > > Kay Smoljak wrote: > > > > Do you install Microsoft's updates for 0utlook's Junk Mail Filter? > > I've found since doing that, it's really quite good. I like keeping > > the number of apps I have running to a minimum! > > The downside of all client side solutions is that you first have > to download the email to the client and it is filtered only then. > It is not that uncommon to receive a few thousand unwanted > messages a day, and some badly written virusses are able to > generate much more in a very short time. > You really want to filter that out as early as possible. Too true - but the benefit is that for some people (like me) who chack many email addresses through the same client (I'm up to about 12) I've got one solution that does it for everything. Most of the servers I use offer some spam protection of their own, but I still have to go up and check the "junk" folders manually for all them individually. Using a client-side solution I have to wait for the download, but I consolidate the work. Pros and cons all over. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204267 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
www.spampal.org We use it in our office. Very little spam gets through. Its open source and there are many plugins avaliable. Jim Louis Best Meetings Inc. www.bestmeetings.com 952.858.8875 >I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus >software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm >looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with >the current pace. > >Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? >Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? > >I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. It has what purports to be >anti-spam built in but it's next to useless. It grabs only emails >from addresses it knows, and the spammers change their "from" address >at random these days. You would rarely get two spams from the same >address. > >Anyway, I'm looking for improvements on my current setup before I go >and renew the licenses. > >Anyone? > >-- >Cheers >Mike Kear >Windsor, NSW, Australia >Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer >AFP Webworks >http://afpwebworks.com >ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204266 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Kay Smoljak wrote: > > Do you install Microsoft's updates for 0utlook's Junk Mail Filter? > I've found since doing that, it's really quite good. I like keeping > the number of apps I have running to a minimum! The downside of all client side solutions is that you first have to download the email to the client and it is filtered only then. It is not that uncommon to receive a few thousand unwanted messages a day, and some badly written virusses are able to generate much more in a very short time. You really want to filter that out as early as possible. Jochem ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204241 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
At 12:34 AM 25/04/2005, Connie DeCinko wrote: >What are you basing this on? Nothing? Just a guess? The old crap of, if >it's free it can't be any good? AVG does an outstanding job and detected >virus infections where a recently updated copy of Norton did not. It keeps >itself up to date, monitors email with no intervention and has never let me >down. It has blocked several infection attempts. I am quite happy with its >performance and the price! I'm basing it about 23 years of fixing computers (which over the last eight years or so has turned into mostly fighting viruses.) I'm a better tech than a programmer, and trust me, I've spent a huge amount of time testing virus protection options. Please read my post again, and notice that: 1)I didn't recommend Norton over NOD32. 2)I stated my statements were based on third party reviews. In my shop, I scan between five and ten computers a day - I use a combination of NOD32, FProt, NOD32, Trend, Norton, AVPersonal, and Sophos. Of these, NOD32 does the best job in the speed and detection department. For about six months, we ran AVG in the mix to see how it would do. We ran it for awhile as the first scanner (and the others consistently found viruses it missed) and then we ran it as the last scanner (where it consistently found nothing, proving it added nothing to the mix.) We pulled it as not being worth the time. I'm glad you think it's working for you, but I'll bet that if you brought your machine to our shop, we'd find viruses you didn't know you had - I see this happen regularly with AVG and Norton users - less so with NOD32 users. T --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Anti-Virus] ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204236 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Mike: For anti-spam, try the SpamBayes plugin for Outlook. Unlike the Bayesian filters in something like Thunderbird, SB sorts spam into "Junk" and "Possible Junk" folders. That means you virtually never have to worry about false-positives, because anything borderline will fall into the small, easily scanned "Possible" list. -- Roger Benningfield JournURL blog: http://admin.support.journurl.com/ ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204225 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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On 4/24/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Here's your best bet for anti virus software: > > http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?fa > > mily=iMac > > > > or here: > > http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/index.html > > > > :-D > > > > If that's your idea of a joke, you'd better keep your day job, Rob. I hate my day job Dave :-) Use what thou wilt. -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204221 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Dave you know my woes i had with windows and during that time I never ever concidered a mac cause I used to use them in the medical fields I worked in and I hated them. It wasn't till katie would bring hers over and I could get right on it and do what I needed without ever even seen OS X, made it pretty easy to linux to the curb, I wont even mention the windows part lol. We'll find out, my stepdad brought a mac g3 home one time and its in moms basememnt so next time I go out there I will set it up 4 her and load OS X and see how long it takes her to be comfy on it, I bet less than a day. " If you're capable of installing an OS - any OS - you're capable of using a computer safely if you want to." I wouldn't say that, after all you can insert OS X or XP and maybe select a few options (like time and time zone and alt language support) and you are done. My 90 yr old granpa did it without help, the time was wrong but everything else was fine :) But yet his puter is always filled with spyware... You'd rock on a mac Dave, you should try one for a day! You won't go back. From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > I don't know about that Dave, the only real getting used to a > mac is the buttons on the top left instead of top right. > Installing cfm was a pita but the average user wont be doing > that, other than that is not to much different (on a mac > anyways), Linux was 10X as hard to get used to but OS X was a > snap. For the "average" user like my mom, I would dare to say > it's easier to learn mac then pc. It certainly might be easier to learn OS X than to learn Windows. However, if you already know Windows, it's harder to learn OS X than to continue using what you already know. I suspect that for most people who simply use their computers to run productivity applications and the like, there is probably more of a learning curve when switching operating systems than there is for people like us. > if that was true we wouldnt have all these problems on pc > because no one would fall for them and they wouldn't matter. Who are "we"? I know lots of people who don't have these problems. Some of these people are hardly computer-savvy, either. > installing OS X was quite a bit easier than xp and xp isn't > hard. Not to mention updating is a snap with OS X and doesnt > crash your system when you do it and you don't have to do it > every other damn day to keep up. If you're capable of installing an OS - any OS - you're capable of using a computer safely if you want to. Most people would find the latter much easier than the former. I know plenty of people who wouldn't know where to start with installing an OS, but who are capable of using their computers safely. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204220 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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" recently updated copy of Norton did not" Thats the usual case, norton really went to hell. Personal I liked bitdefender and panda and most it ppl i know say panda is the best, and doesnt kill your system resourses. From: "Connie DeCinko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:33 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? What are you basing this on? Nothing? Just a guess? The old crap of, if it's free it can't be any good? AVG does an outstanding job and detected virus infections where a recently updated copy of Norton did not. It keeps itself up to date, monitors email with no intervention and has never let me down. It has blocked several infection attempts. I am quite happy with its performance and the price! -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? At 02:58 PM 24/04/2005, Emmet McGovern wrote: >I second AVG. It works great. AVG gives a false sense of security (at least the free version does.) I'd go with NOD32 (which isn't free, but you get what you pay for.) Check out www.virusbtn.com and read their results. AVG is just about the bottom choice. T --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Anti-Virus] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204219 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Here here! I agree 100%. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? What did I have to buy? What couldn't I do? How much time do I need to spend not double-clicking on attachments, exactly? Trust me when I say I've spent less time avoiding problems with Windows than I would have if I'd switched to a Mac or installed Linux. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204218 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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What are you basing this on? Nothing? Just a guess? The old crap of, if it's free it can't be any good? AVG does an outstanding job and detected virus infections where a recently updated copy of Norton did not. It keeps itself up to date, monitors email with no intervention and has never let me down. It has blocked several infection attempts. I am quite happy with its performance and the price! -Original Message- From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? At 02:58 PM 24/04/2005, Emmet McGovern wrote: >I second AVG. It works great. AVG gives a false sense of security (at least the free version does.) I'd go with NOD32 (which isn't free, but you get what you pay for.) Check out www.virusbtn.com and read their results. AVG is just about the bottom choice. T --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Anti-Virus] ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204217 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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> I don't know about that Dave, the only real getting used to a > mac is the buttons on the top left instead of top right. > Installing cfm was a pita but the average user wont be doing > that, other than that is not to much different (on a mac > anyways), Linux was 10X as hard to get used to but OS X was a > snap. For the "average" user like my mom, I would dare to say > it's easier to learn mac then pc. It certainly might be easier to learn OS X than to learn Windows. However, if you already know Windows, it's harder to learn OS X than to continue using what you already know. I suspect that for most people who simply use their computers to run productivity applications and the like, there is probably more of a learning curve when switching operating systems than there is for people like us. > if that was true we wouldnt have all these problems on pc > because no one would fall for them and they wouldn't matter. Who are "we"? I know lots of people who don't have these problems. Some of these people are hardly computer-savvy, either. > installing OS X was quite a bit easier than xp and xp isn't > hard. Not to mention updating is a snap with OS X and doesnt > crash your system when you do it and you don't have to do it > every other damn day to keep up. If you're capable of installing an OS - any OS - you're capable of using a computer safely if you want to. Most people would find the latter much easier than the former. I know plenty of people who wouldn't know where to start with installing an OS, but who are capable of using their computers safely. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204213 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I don't know about that Dave, the only real getting used to a mac is the buttons on the top left instead of top right. Installing cfm was a pita but the average user wont be doing that, other than that is not to much different (on a mac anyways), Linux was 10X as hard to get used to but OS X was a snap. For the "average" user like my mom, I would dare to say it's easier to learn mac then pc. " I submit to you that it would be easier for most users to learn those three things than to learn a new operating system " if that was true we wouldnt have all these problems on pc because no one would fall for them and they wouldn't matter. " much less install it themselves" installing OS X was quite a bit easier than xp and xp isn't hard. Not to mention updating is a snap with OS X and doesnt crash your system when you do it and you don't have to do it every other damn day to keep up. From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 10:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > That wasn't in direct responce to you Dave, it's in general > and I don't think you can say that you are an "average" user ;) > > I went from windows/linux to a mac pretty effortlessly, the > only real issues I have had are the constant subconcious > naggings to run the system cleaners, run spyware removers, > scan for viruses and rebooting all the time. The rest of the > stuff I have Sean to do for me haha jk Sean :) While I may not be an average user, the three things I mentioned are well within the reach of practically every user. I submit to you that it would be easier for most users to learn those three things than to learn a new operating system - much less install it themselves. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204212 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> That wasn't in direct responce to you Dave, it's in general > and I don't think you can say that you are an "average" user ;) > > I went from windows/linux to a mac pretty effortlessly, the > only real issues I have had are the constant subconcious > naggings to run the system cleaners, run spyware removers, > scan for viruses and rebooting all the time. The rest of the > stuff I have Sean to do for me haha jk Sean :) While I may not be an average user, the three things I mentioned are well within the reach of practically every user. I submit to you that it would be easier for most users to learn those three things than to learn a new operating system - much less install it themselves. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204211 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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A bit of it but it's not the same sort of paranoia that you have on a windows system, but those damn self-installing exe files on a mac are bitch ;) I mean after all, you don't have windows intregration on a mac, which is the bain of most evils From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > -Original Message- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:05 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > > I guess thats an answer but.. > > You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't open this, you can't open > that, you gotta watch for this and you gotta watch for that, you gotta buy > this, you gotta buy that, you gotta run this, you gotta run that, you > gotta clean this, you gotta clean that, you have to install this, you have > to install that, sure it's not rocket science but you sure gotta spend a > lot of time on those things. > > Thats like saying you are a good driver because you don't get in any > accidents but then again you never come out from hiding from behind the > couch either ;) And you don't have to do that with Macs? Are you honestly saying that you can open all unknown attachments on a Mac and nothing will EVER happen simply because you're on a Mac? Computer security is no harder at its core than home security: mistrust before you trust, keep your private information private and keep alert. I don't care what system you're running - you don't follow those rules and you'll be up the creek. Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204210 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> -Original Message- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:05 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > > I guess thats an answer but.. > > You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't open this, you can't open > that, you gotta watch for this and you gotta watch for that, you gotta buy > this, you gotta buy that, you gotta run this, you gotta run that, you > gotta clean this, you gotta clean that, you have to install this, you have > to install that, sure it's not rocket science but you sure gotta spend a > lot of time on those things. > > Thats like saying you are a good driver because you don't get in any > accidents but then again you never come out from hiding from behind the > couch either ;) And you don't have to do that with Macs? Are you honestly saying that you can open all unknown attachments on a Mac and nothing will EVER happen simply because you're on a Mac? Computer security is no harder at its core than home security: mistrust before you trust, keep your private information private and keep alert. I don't care what system you're running - you don't follow those rules and you'll be up the creek. Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204209 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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That wasn't in direct responce to you Dave, it's in general and I don't think you can say that you are an "average" user ;) I went from windows/linux to a mac pretty effortlessly, the only real issues I have had are the constant subconcious naggings to run the system cleaners, run spyware removers, scan for viruses and rebooting all the time. The rest of the stuff I have Sean to do for me haha jk Sean :) From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't open this, > you can't open that, you gotta watch for this and you gotta > watch for that, you gotta buy this, you gotta buy that, you > gotta run this, you gotta run that, you gotta clean this, you > gotta clean that, you have to install this, you have to > install that, sure it's not rocket science but you sure gotta > spend a lot of time on those things. > > Thats like saying you are a good driver because you don't > get in any accidents but then again you never come out from > hiding from behind the couch either ;) What did I have to buy? What couldn't I do? How much time do I need to spend not double-clicking on attachments, exactly? Trust me when I say I've spent less time avoiding problems with Windows than I would have if I'd switched to a Mac or installed Linux. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204208 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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> You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't open this, > you can't open that, you gotta watch for this and you gotta > watch for that, you gotta buy this, you gotta buy that, you > gotta run this, you gotta run that, you gotta clean this, you > gotta clean that, you have to install this, you have to > install that, sure it's not rocket science but you sure gotta > spend a lot of time on those things. > > Thats like saying you are a good driver because you don't > get in any accidents but then again you never come out from > hiding from behind the couch either ;) What did I have to buy? What couldn't I do? How much time do I need to spend not double-clicking on attachments, exactly? Trust me when I say I've spent less time avoiding problems with Windows than I would have if I'd switched to a Mac or installed Linux. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204207 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I guess thats an answer but.. You can't do this, you can't do that, you can't open this, you can't open that, you gotta watch for this and you gotta watch for that, you gotta buy this, you gotta buy that, you gotta run this, you gotta run that, you gotta clean this, you gotta clean that, you have to install this, you have to install that, sure it's not rocket science but you sure gotta spend a lot of time on those things. Thats like saying you are a good driver because you don't get in any accidents but then again you never come out from hiding from behind the couch either ;) From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > > Here's your best bet for anti virus software: > http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?fa > mily=iMac > > or here: > http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/index.html > > :-D > If that's your idea of a joke, you'd better keep your day job, Rob. I find it a bit irksome that people think it's a realistic or useful answer to someone asking "how do I make X work the way I want it to" to say "oh, just get a Y". Especially when it's pretty easy to avoid viruses or worms on any platform with a minimal amount of care and foresight. I've been using Windows on personal computers since version 3.1 and I've never had any sort of local security problem. As a consultant, I plug my computer into all sorts of networks, I use public wifi hotspots, etc. I use Outlook to connect to an Exchange server, and I've never had a virus. I don't have any antivirus software installed, either. What's my secret? I run a local firewall (nowadays, the one that comes with XP SP2), I don't double-click on attachments, and I use Firefox for public browsing. How hard are any of those things? This isn't rocket science. Now, I like Macs and I think that OS X makes a superb desktop, but it's kind of hard to justify buying a new computer to fix a problem that can easily be fixed without laying down that kind of money. As for using a Linux desktop for my primary computer, I'd rather self-administer a lobotomy. That's just me, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204206 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> > Here's your best bet for anti virus software: > http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?fa > mily=iMac > > or here: > http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/index.html > > :-D > If that's your idea of a joke, you'd better keep your day job, Rob. I find it a bit irksome that people think it's a realistic or useful answer to someone asking "how do I make X work the way I want it to" to say "oh, just get a Y". Especially when it's pretty easy to avoid viruses or worms on any platform with a minimal amount of care and foresight. I've been using Windows on personal computers since version 3.1 and I've never had any sort of local security problem. As a consultant, I plug my computer into all sorts of networks, I use public wifi hotspots, etc. I use Outlook to connect to an Exchange server, and I've never had a virus. I don't have any antivirus software installed, either. What's my secret? I run a local firewall (nowadays, the one that comes with XP SP2), I don't double-click on attachments, and I use Firefox for public browsing. How hard are any of those things? This isn't rocket science. Now, I like Macs and I think that OS X makes a superb desktop, but it's kind of hard to justify buying a new computer to fix a problem that can easily be fixed without laying down that kind of money. As for using a Linux desktop for my primary computer, I'd rather self-administer a lobotomy. That's just me, though. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204205 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
At 02:58 PM 24/04/2005, Emmet McGovern wrote: >I second AVG. It works great. AVG gives a false sense of security (at least the free version does.) I'd go with NOD32 (which isn't free, but you get what you pay for.) Check out www.virusbtn.com and read their results. AVG is just about the bottom choice. T --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Anti-Virus] ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204204 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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LMFAO x2!! haha I was gunna say the same thing but you know how that send ppl's panties up their bums on here when I say it ;) My advice would be too use as little of ms products as you can and you will be safer and that's not me bashing that's me saying "hey, why don't you seperate your programs from your OS and that will dramaticly reduce the threats" And the ms spyware program seems to really slow systems down (imagine that) and isn't trusting that like using AOL for spam filtering (either you get that or you dont). From: Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus > software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm > looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with > the current pace. Here's your best bet for anti virus software: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=iMac or here: http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/index.html :-D -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204195 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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> I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus > software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm > looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with > the current pace. Here's your best bet for anti virus software: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=iMac or here: http://www.novell.com/linux/suse/index.html :-D -- ~Blog~ http://www.robrohan.com ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~ http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~open source xslt IDE~ http://treebeard.sourceforge.net ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204193 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Mike Computer Associates has a 12-month free trial on their anti-virus software. I posted the how-to on community a couple three weeks back, but it goes something like this -- Assuming you have Windows XP, uninstall the expired virus software. Go into your security center and let it tell you that you don't have any anyvirus software. Say yes, you would like to get some. It's the first link that comes up. I haven't thought about spam in a long while. I converted to gmail and I don't see more than one or two pieces a day, exven though I subscribe to a number of highly spammed usenet lists. You might consider forwarding ? Hope some of that helps Dana On 4/24/05, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus > software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm > looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with > the current pace. > > Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? > Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? > > I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. It has what purports to be > anti-spam built in but it's next to useless. It grabs only emails > from addresses it knows, and the spammers change their "from" address > at random these days. You would rarely get two spams from the same > address. > > Anyway, I'm looking for improvements on my current setup before I go > and renew the licenses. > > Anyone? > > -- > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204187 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Don't forget SpywareBlaster. It sits in memory and blocks access to bad sites and the installation of spyware. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? I installed Avast! antivirus http://www.avast.com/ on my wife's machine when I recently reinstalled Windows XP Pro on her system, and it has been great. As far as Anti-Spyware software goes, I use the multi-layer approach and install Spybot S&D, AdAware, and MS Anti-Spyware. I run weekly scans with Spybot and AdAware, and MS Antispyware runs all the time. Of course, I also keep all machines up to date with patches, etc., and I have fairly aggressive anti-Spam settings on my mail server. A reasonable amount of paranoia has kept our household computer virus-free for...well...forever (knocks wood). Pete ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204185 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I installed Avast! antivirus http://www.avast.com/ on my wife's machine when I recently reinstalled Windows XP Pro on her system, and it has been great. As far as Anti-Spyware software goes, I use the multi-layer approach and install Spybot S&D, AdAware, and MS Anti-Spyware. I run weekly scans with Spybot and AdAware, and MS Antispyware runs all the time. Of course, I also keep all machines up to date with patches, etc., and I have fairly aggressive anti-Spam settings on my mail server. A reasonable amount of paranoia has kept our household computer virus-free for...well...forever (knocks wood). Pete ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204184 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I second AVG. It works great. -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 1:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? AVG Anti-Virus offers a free version for personal use and it's wonderful! Has kept my system clean, catching several email and other viruses. It updates every day and scans at least once a week. I used to use Giant products for spam, but Microsoft bought them up. Not sure where the spam product is at. They rebranded their spyware program right away. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with the current pace. Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. It has what purports to be anti-spam built in but it's next to useless. It grabs only emails from addresses it knows, and the spammers change their "from" address at random these days. You would rarely get two spams from the same address. Anyway, I'm looking for improvements on my current setup before I go and renew the licenses. Anyone? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204182 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:59 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? > > I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus > software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm > looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with > the current pace. > > Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? I second the suggestion to go to office update and make sure you've updated the spam filters. It really does help immensely. It's not perfect tho (what is?). Right now it's catching (with no training on my part) about 90% of spam on the "low" setting. I could move it to "High" and catch more but then some real email gets caught and it's easier to delete to uncaught spam than to go through all the caught spam looking for good messages (on low I've never seen a real message get caught). I've also used "IHateSpam" (at www.sunbeltsoftware.com) and it was also very good - it's something like $20 (although you only get a year of updates - then you pay $10 to upgrade). > Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? Panda is cheap and seems to work well (there's also a free online scanner from Panda). I'm not sure what you consider "cheap" but personally I just McAfee Internet Security (I was using Norton but hated the fact that you couldn't NOT use their spam filter). It's $70 as a download and includes Firewall, Spam protection, Anti-virus and Privacy services. For the most part it's worked well for me (which is to say that it's crashed less than others - in my experience protection software almost always causes more problems than it solves.) Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204180 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
AVG Anti-Virus offers a free version for personal use and it's wonderful! Has kept my system clean, catching several email and other viruses. It updates every day and scans at least once a week. I used to use Giant products for spam, but Microsoft bought them up. Not sure where the spam product is at. They rebranded their spyware program right away. -Original Message- From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 5:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software? I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with the current pace. Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. It has what purports to be anti-spam built in but it's next to useless. It grabs only emails from addresses it knows, and the spammers change their "from" address at random these days. You would rarely get two spams from the same address. Anyway, I'm looking for improvements on my current setup before I go and renew the licenses. Anyone? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204177 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
> Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? For software solution (free), spamihilator seems pretty good. You can google it. I use a hosted server side solution, www.redcondor.com, which does as good if not better job of any client side solution I've tried. It costs about $1.75/mo per mailbox you want to filter (with discounts available for paying a year in advance). There's nothing to configure on your side -- just change your domain's MX record to point to them and they filter the spam and send it back to your mail server. There's no noticeable delay time. They use filters, not challenge/response, and have a 95%+ success rate screening spam. Though 95% is not the same as 98-99%, the nice thing is that in the 8 months I've been with them, they have never quarantined a false positive. I do a get a small commission for referrals, but I'd recommend them even if I didn't. - Regards, Bob Haroche O n P o i n t S o l u t i o n s www.OnPointSolutions.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204160 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Mike Kear wrote: > > Integrating with Outlook2003 would be good, but I guess separate would > be ok as long as it doesnt require me to operate on email twice. Dont > want to slow down what is already a lengthy process every day. You could give Thunderbird a try. After a bit of training the spam filters are pretty good. > Adding server side isn't really an option becuase I pick up mail from > several servers - one is under my control, the others arent. That is too bad, there are some thing you can do server side that you simply can't do client side (greylisting, milters etc.). What are you running on the server that is under your control? You should at the very least be able to add an antivirus solution to that server. If it is an option to aggregate your email on that server using for instance fetchmail you have at least fixed the antivirus part of the equation. Jochem ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204159 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Thanks Kay, I appreciate that. I'll check those out, and see if i can give Outlook a bit of an update. See what happens. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 4/24/05, Kay Smoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Mike, > > Do you install Microsoft's updates for 0utlook's Junk Mail Filter? > I've found since doing that, it's really quite good. I like keeping > the number of apps I have running to a minimum! > > As for Antivirus, AVG (grisoft.com) is pretty good. It's free for > personal use but I'm not sure what the commercial license costs. Panda > (pandasoftware.com) is also quite good and not too expensive - I've > installed that for some of my clients. > > Cheers! > > -- > Kay Smoljak > http://kay.smoljak.com/ > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204157 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Thanks Jochem, Integrating with Outlook2003 would be good, but I guess separate would be ok as long as it doesnt require me to operate on email twice. Dont want to slow down what is already a lengthy process every day. Adding server side isn't really an option becuase I pick up mail from several servers - one is under my control, the others arent. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 4/24/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Kear wrote: > > I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus > > software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm > > looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with > > the current pace. > > Are you looking for something to integrate into MS Outlook 2003 > or to replace it? Exclusively client side or can you add server > side solutions too? > > Jochem > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204156 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
On 4/24/05, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. It has what purports to be > anti-spam built in but it's next to useless. It grabs only emails > from addresses it knows, and the spammers change their "from" address > at random these days. You would rarely get two spams from the same > address. Hey Mike, Do you install Microsoft's updates for 0utlook's Junk Mail Filter? I've found since doing that, it's really quite good. I like keeping the number of apps I have running to a minimum! As for Antivirus, AVG (grisoft.com) is pretty good. It's free for personal use but I'm not sure what the commercial license costs. Panda (pandasoftware.com) is also quite good and not too expensive - I've installed that for some of my clients. Cheers! -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204155 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
Mike Kear wrote: > I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus > software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm > looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with > the current pace. > > Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? > Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? > > I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. Are you looking for something to integrate into MS Outlook 2003 or to replace it? Exclusively client side or can you add server side solutions too? Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204154 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Any Free/Low cost anti-spam/anti-virus software?
I'm at the point where I have to renew my licenses for my anti-virus software, and my anti-spam is going to have to be renewed soon, so I'm looking for alternatives. Both of them are not really keeping up with the current pace. Are there any good low cost/free/ anti spam measures available? Are there any good low cost/free/ anti virus measures available? I"m using MS Outlook2003 for mail. It has what purports to be anti-spam built in but it's next to useless. It grabs only emails from addresses it knows, and the spammers change their "from" address at random these days. You would rarely get two spams from the same address. Anyway, I'm looking for improvements on my current setup before I go and renew the licenses. Anyone? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:204153 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
