BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Reinbold
So I'm currently checking out the wild, wholly world of CFML - things like the 
Smith Project, Railo, Coral Web Builder (is that even an active project 
anymore? looks like last update was 2005?), and BlueDragon. 

I set some stuff up on BlueDragon's free version and was hoping to show some 
other folks the files from my machine - but is the free version localhost ip 
only? I'm trying to find a definitive answer but the information seems either 
old or contradictory. 

Is the free version of the BlueDragon server local ip only? 

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RE: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-02-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Is the free version of the BlueDragon server local ip only?

No. BlueDragon 7 Server is free for multiuser applications. Any of the other
versions of BlueDragon 7 (BlueDragon 7.0 Server JX, BlueDragon 7.0 for J2EE
Application Servers, BlueDragon for the Microsoft .NET Framework) are not
free, but each of those versions are available in a limited-use mode for
development and testing.

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RE: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-02-29 Thread Dave Francis
Certainly multi-user, but I believe it is free only for non-commercial
applications. But don't take my word for it, ask on the newatalanta forum.

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> Is the free version of the BlueDragon server local ip only?

No. BlueDragon 7 Server is free for multiuser applications. Any of the other
versions of BlueDragon 7 (BlueDragon 7.0 Server JX, BlueDragon 7.0 for J2EE
Application Servers, BlueDragon for the Microsoft .NET Framework) are not
free, but each of those versions are available in a limited-use mode for
development and testing.

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Re: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Reinbold
>> Is the free version of the BlueDragon server local ip only?
>
>No. BlueDragon 7 Server is free for multiuser applications. 

Really? I've having a dickens of a time connecting to it from another computer. 
I've got Smith set up on port 8081. My laptop is assigned a local subnet 
address of 192.168.0.5 and I can pull up pages in the Smith web root from other 
machines on the local subnet but going to http://192.168.0.5:8081/. I installed BlueDragon Server 7 on port 8082. I can pull pages from the 
laptop itself (localhost or 127.0.0.1) but if I try to use 
http://192.168.0.5:8082/ from another machine on the local 
area network the page times out. Running "netstat -an" from a windows command 
line shows that while the port is in use locally there isn't an entry for the 
inbound computer.

Could it have something to do with the default security under the bluedragon 
admin? It's defaulted to allow ips: '*.*.*.*' - maybe because there isn't an 
allowed ':*' at the end it ignores all traffic to a certain port? I tried 
updating it with a : and a port number but upon submit it just reverts back to 
'*.*.*.*'. Pinging that port from a computer on the subnet also doesn't work. 
Is there any other way to sniff around and see if anyone is listening where 
they should be? 

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Re: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Reinbold
 I can pull pages from the laptop itself 
> (localhost or 127.0.0.1) but if I try to use http://192.168.0.
> 5:8082/ from another machine on the local area 
> network the page times out. 

Ok - its late Friday evening and I've got my dunce cap on. Once I added '8082' 
to allowed ports under the Windows firewall things were ok. I hadn't even 
thought about that because I hadn't done anything to get Smith open to the 
outside world (and scrolling through the list of allowed exceptions Smith isn't 
on their either... hmmm... if its 'borrowing' something that was previously 
allowed that could cause conflicts down the road).

Anywho, it was Windows firewall that was preventing me from demoing. Thanks for 
the replies.


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Re: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Reinbold
But since I brought Coral Web Builder up does anyone know anything more about 
that product? It seemed like the biggest benefit they tried to sell themselves 
on was that you paid for the server once and then you could deploy it on as 
many machines as possible (the idea being to run CF apps locally on users 
machines, as opposed to using the browser window like a terminal reporting back 
to a central server). However, the last update seemed to be in 2005 and support 
for simple stuff, like cfcs seems to be missing. 

Any ideas on if its still around? 

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Re: BlueDragon Fee Server - LocalHost Only?

2008-03-01 Thread Gert Franz
Hi Matthew

You could of course use Railo, which in the Community Version is free 
and has no restrictions in use. It doesn't matter if it's commercial or not.

Just give it a try.

Gert

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Matthew Reinbold schrieb:
>>> Is the free version of the BlueDragon server local ip only?
>>>   
>> No. BlueDragon 7 Server is free for multiuser applications. 
>> 
>
> Really? I've having a dickens of a time connecting to it from another 
> computer. I've got Smith set up on port 8081. My laptop is assigned a local 
> subnet address of 192.168.0.5 and I can pull up pages in the Smith web root 
> from other machines on the local subnet but going to 
> http://192.168.0.5:8081/. I installed BlueDragon Server 7 
> on port 8082. I can pull pages from the laptop itself (localhost or 
> 127.0.0.1) but if I try to use http://192.168.0.5:8082/ 
> from another machine on the local area network the page times out. Running 
> "netstat -an" from a windows command line shows that while the port is in use 
> locally there isn't an entry for the inbound computer.
>
> Could it have something to do with the default security under the bluedragon 
> admin? It's defaulted to allow ips: '*.*.*.*' - maybe because there isn't an 
> allowed ':*' at the end it ignores all traffic to a certain port? I tried 
> updating it with a : and a port number but upon submit it just reverts back 
> to '*.*.*.*'. Pinging that port from a computer on the subnet also doesn't 
> work. Is there any other way to sniff around and see if anyone is listening 
> where they should be? 
>
> 

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