What features should a good CRM have: [Was:Re: CF-Based CRMs?]
This thread has prompted me to start thinking about building a CRM, and maybe making it my first open source project. (I've been too timid to let others poke around in my code before - time to come out into the daylight and learn, I think)> Apart from the obvious customer name and address records, and a means of messaging them in groups or singly ... what else is needed in a good CRM? If we can settle on a good feature list, then perhaps we can open a community project. Would anyone be prepared to work with me to make one? I would build it with CFCs, using what I hope is OO techniques and coldspring to bolt it all together. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 2/2/08, Nick Gleason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting thread folks. Just wanted to mention that our software platform > - Community Enterprise - is CF-based and includes a robust CRM. It's > marketed towards social sector organizations (government, associations, > non-profits) but has been used beyond that as well. You can see more at > www.citysoft.com. > > Best, > > Nick > > . > .. > > Nick Gleason | CitySoft, Inc. | http://www.citysoft.com > > Direct: (617) 899-5395 | Fax: (617) 507-0444 > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297972 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
Interesting thread folks. Just wanted to mention that our software platform - Community Enterprise - is CF-based and includes a robust CRM. It's marketed towards social sector organizations (government, associations, non-profits) but has been used beyond that as well. You can see more at www.citysoft.com. Best, Nick . .. Nick Gleason | CitySoft, Inc. | http://www.citysoft.com Direct: (617) 899-5395 | Fax: (617) 507-0444 Spend Less >> Do More - Community Enterprise combines great features with an affordable price. . .. > -Original Message- > From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 2:30 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF-Based CRMs? > > Thanks Rey, > > I'll let you know... > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:14 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > Kevin, > > When it's ready for beta, email me and I'll get you some > press on Ajaxian.com > > Rey > > Kevin Aebig wrote: > > Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the > middle-tier and > MySQL > > / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty > > slick new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM. > > > > Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon... > > > > Cheers, > > > > !k > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > I am sensing a need for a new open source project > > > > Is anyone going to bite? > > > > Mark > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! > Job done :OD > >> > >> Adrian > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Rey Bango > >> Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 > >> To: CF-Talk > >> Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > >> > >> > >> Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a > >> CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my > >> short list. > >> > >> I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of > ScorpioSoft Corp. > >> (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM > matches my needs. > >> > >> Rey... > >> > >> Kevin Aebig wrote: > >>> SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, > >>> than SugerCRM is extremely close... > >>> > >>> !k > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Cameron Childress > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > >>> To: CF-Talk > >>> Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > >>> > >>> I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along > with Flex > >>> and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > >>> SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For > >>> that matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution > by itself, > >>> no code required, if you haven't already. > >>> > >>> -Cameron > >>> > >>> Adrian Lynch wrote: > >>>> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were > >>>> asking > >>> about > >>>> CRMs, not CMSs. > >>>> > >>>> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons > you've given. > >> But > >>>> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297927 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
Thanks Rey, I'll let you know... !k -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? Kevin, When it's ready for beta, email me and I'll get you some press on Ajaxian.com Rey Kevin Aebig wrote: > Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the middle-tier and MySQL > / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty slick > new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM. > > Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon... > > Cheers, > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > I am sensing a need for a new open source project > > Is anyone going to bite? > > Mark > > On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD >> >> Adrian >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Rey Bango >> Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? >> >> >> Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a >> CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short >> list. >> >> I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. >> (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs. >> >> Rey... >> >> Kevin Aebig wrote: >>> SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than >>> SugerCRM is extremely close... >>> >>> !k >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Cameron Childress >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? >>> >>> I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex >>> and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage >>> SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that >>> matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code >>> required, if you haven't already. >>> >>> -Cameron >>> >>> Adrian Lynch wrote: >>>> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking >>> about >>>> CRMs, not CMSs. >>>> >>>> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. >> But >>>> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD >> >> > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297831 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
> That's so going to be my next project name. "Bumfluff v3.5" Starting project lines at or below v1 is overrated anyway. People are statistically more likely to buy v3.5 even if they've never heard of it. :P -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 503.236.3691 http://onTap.riaforge.org/blog ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297793 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
Well toilet water does rotate backwards in Australia and maybe being upside down had something to do with that! LOL! ;) Rey Mike Kear wrote: > The very first time I heard the term "CRM" was at a Microsoft Partners > presentation some years ago.This hotshot product manager was > giving a presentation about the great new CRM product MS was > introducing in the next quarter.We saw lots of great import/export > features, web enabling, mail handling, how it interrelates seamlessly > with their other server products, etc etc..but at no stage in his > 45 minute presentation did the hotshot ever use the words "Customer" > or "Relationship". ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297787 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
Kevin, When it's ready for beta, email me and I'll get you some press on Ajaxian.com Rey Kevin Aebig wrote: > Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the middle-tier and MySQL > / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty slick > new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM. > > Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon... > > Cheers, > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > I am sensing a need for a new open source project > > Is anyone going to bite? > > Mark > > On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD >> >> Adrian >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Rey Bango >> Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? >> >> >> Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a >> CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short >> list. >> >> I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. >> (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs. >> >> Rey... >> >> Kevin Aebig wrote: >>> SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than >>> SugerCRM is extremely close... >>> >>> !k >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Cameron Childress >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM >>> To: CF-Talk >>> Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? >>> >>> I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex >>> and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage >>> SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that >>> matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code >>> required, if you haven't already. >>> >>> -Cameron >>> >>> Adrian Lynch wrote: >>>> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking >>> about >>>> CRMs, not CMSs. >>>> >>>> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. >> But >>>> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD >> >> > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297786 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
That's so going to be my next project name. "Bumfluff v3.5" On Jan 30, 2008 8:19 PM, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The very first time I heard the term "CRM" was at a Microsoft Partners > presentation some years ago.This hotshot product manager was > giving a presentation about the great new CRM product MS was > introducing in the next quarter.We saw lots of great import/export > features, web enabling, mail handling, how it interrelates seamlessly > with their other server products, etc etc..but at no stage in his > 45 minute presentation did the hotshot ever use the words "Customer" > or "Relationship". > > I had never heard the term "CRM" before so i spent most of the time > working on what it was this guy was talking about - trying to work out > what a CRM was exactly. Was this thing anything i should know about? > Was it something i could sell? To who? What the HELL is it > Would i use it in my own business? What for? About half way through > I noticed most of the people around me looking bored and not reallly > paying attention. I asked the guy next to me if he knew what CRM > meant. He said "Havent got a clue." I asked the guy on the other > side. Same answer. All around us, no one had any idea what a CRM > was, and we were all trying to grab a closer look at the screens that > were flashing on the screen in front of us trying to get some idea of > what a CRM was.But the screens were in typical fashion simply > motherhood statements - "richly enabling the web", "improving > corporate efficiency" etc - nothing there - every presentation ever > done by Microsoft says the same thing. "multiple licences", > 'compatibility with current and new server products", "sales > incentives", "special pricing for partners for next 6 weeks" big > deal - every Microsoft presentation says that. BUT WHAT THE (*&%# is > a CRM product > > So in short, the entire presentation was completely wasted on most of > the audience of about 3500 sales partners - none of us knew whether > this great newfangled thingamejig was going to fit into our business > plans or not. > > All he had to do was say "Customer Relationship Management" at some > stage, early in the presentation, and it might have been useful. > > The moment afterwards when I told him he'd given the entire present > and never once told us what he was showing us was magic. HIs face > went pale and I thought he was going to faint. LOL > > It's amazing how often a similar thing happens. Look at your own > software announcements ... "Bumfluff V 3.5 is now released!" Then a > whole bunch of stuff about the bugs fixed, esoteric features added, > Mac version now released, updated to work with IE7 and Vista, > Great. What does it do? Do i care? Would i use it? I never saw > Bumfluff V3.0 or previous versions, so why would i be interested? > What does it do? > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297781 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
The very first time I heard the term "CRM" was at a Microsoft Partners presentation some years ago.This hotshot product manager was giving a presentation about the great new CRM product MS was introducing in the next quarter.We saw lots of great import/export features, web enabling, mail handling, how it interrelates seamlessly with their other server products, etc etc..but at no stage in his 45 minute presentation did the hotshot ever use the words "Customer" or "Relationship". I had never heard the term "CRM" before so i spent most of the time working on what it was this guy was talking about - trying to work out what a CRM was exactly. Was this thing anything i should know about? Was it something i could sell? To who? What the HELL is it Would i use it in my own business? What for? About half way through I noticed most of the people around me looking bored and not reallly paying attention. I asked the guy next to me if he knew what CRM meant. He said "Havent got a clue." I asked the guy on the other side. Same answer. All around us, no one had any idea what a CRM was, and we were all trying to grab a closer look at the screens that were flashing on the screen in front of us trying to get some idea of what a CRM was.But the screens were in typical fashion simply motherhood statements - "richly enabling the web", "improving corporate efficiency" etc - nothing there - every presentation ever done by Microsoft says the same thing. "multiple licences", 'compatibility with current and new server products", "sales incentives", "special pricing for partners for next 6 weeks" big deal - every Microsoft presentation says that. BUT WHAT THE (*&%# is a CRM product So in short, the entire presentation was completely wasted on most of the audience of about 3500 sales partners - none of us knew whether this great newfangled thingamejig was going to fit into our business plans or not. All he had to do was say "Customer Relationship Management" at some stage, early in the presentation, and it might have been useful. The moment afterwards when I told him he'd given the entire present and never once told us what he was showing us was magic. HIs face went pale and I thought he was going to faint. LOL It's amazing how often a similar thing happens. Look at your own software announcements ... "Bumfluff V 3.5 is now released!" Then a whole bunch of stuff about the bugs fixed, esoteric features added, Mac version now released, updated to work with IE7 and Vista, Great. What does it do? Do i care? Would i use it? I never saw Bumfluff V3.0 or previous versions, so why would i be interested? What does it do? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297779 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
Fun is one way to describe it. Endeavor is another... =] I will once I've got the core code-base complete. The whole package currently consists of 3 separate applications. - Project Manager - Graphing Program (Visio Clone) - CRM There some other tools I want to add and by the time they're done, it should make up a full software suite. Cheers, Kevin -Original Message- From: Alan Rother [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? Wow, that sounds like fun. You going to set that up on Sourceforge/Google and allow helpers in? -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297776 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
Typically... This means someone is doing parallel development for it to work with both (independent of each other) or they plan to port it from 1 to the other when they complete the project. On Jan 30, 2008 3:16 PM, Mark Mandel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PHP/CF middle? > > How does that work? > > Mark > > > On Jan 31, 2008 9:02 AM, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the middle-tier and > > MySQL > > / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty slick > > new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM. > > > > Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon... > > > > Cheers, > > > > !k > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > I am sensing a need for a new open source project > > > > Is anyone going to bite? > > > > Mark > > > > On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Rey Bango > > > Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a > > > CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short > > > list. > > > > > > I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. > > > (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my > > needs. > > > > > > Rey... > > > > > > Kevin Aebig wrote: > > > > SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than > > > > SugerCRM is extremely close... > > > > > > > > !k > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Cameron Childress > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > > > > > I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex > > > > and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > > > > SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that > > > > matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no > > code > > > > required, if you haven't already. > > > > > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > > > Adrian Lynch wrote: > > > >> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were > > asking > > > > about > > > >> CRMs, not CMSs. > > > >> > > > >> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. > > > But > > > >> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297774 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
PHP/CF middle? How does that work? Mark On Jan 31, 2008 9:02 AM, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the middle-tier and > MySQL > / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty slick > new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM. > > Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon... > > Cheers, > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > I am sensing a need for a new open source project > > Is anyone going to bite? > > Mark > > On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD > > > > Adrian > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rey Bango > > Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > > > Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a > > CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short > > list. > > > > I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. > > (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my > needs. > > > > Rey... > > > > Kevin Aebig wrote: > > > SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than > > > SugerCRM is extremely close... > > > > > > !k > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Cameron Childress > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > > > I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex > > > and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > > > SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that > > > matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no > code > > > required, if you haven't already. > > > > > > -Cameron > > > > > > Adrian Lynch wrote: > > >> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were > asking > > > about > > >> CRMs, not CMSs. > > >> > > >> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. > > But > > >> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > > > > > > > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297772 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
Wow, that sounds like fun. You going to set that up on Sourceforge/Google and allow helpers in? -- Alan Rother Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, AZCFUG.org ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297771 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
Already started. AIR(Flex) frontend with PHP/CF as the middle-tier and MySQL / MSSQL as RDBMS. Hopefully I'll be able to incorporate some pretty slick new toys in it as well to make it a different kind of CRM. Hopefully I can get the whole package out for beta pretty soon... Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Mark Mandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? I am sensing a need for a new open source project Is anyone going to bite? Mark On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD > > Adrian > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango > Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a > CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short > list. > > I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. > (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs. > > Rey... > > Kevin Aebig wrote: > > SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than > > SugerCRM is extremely close... > > > > !k > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Cameron Childress > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex > > and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > > SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that > > matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code > > required, if you haven't already. > > > > -Cameron > > > > Adrian Lynch wrote: > >> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking > > about > >> CRMs, not CMSs. > >> > >> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. > But > >> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297770 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
I am sensing a need for a new open source project Is anyone going to bite? Mark On Jan 31, 2008 2:33 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD > > Adrian > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango > Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a > CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short > list. > > I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. > (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs. > > Rey... > > Kevin Aebig wrote: > > SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than > > SugerCRM is extremely close... > > > > !k > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Cameron Childress > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex > > and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > > SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that > > matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code > > required, if you haven't already. > > > > -Cameron > > > > Adrian Lynch wrote: > >> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking > > about > >> CRMs, not CMSs. > >> > >> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. > But > >> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297767 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
I've installed Sugar and the man behind me seems happy! Job done :OD Adrian -Original Message- From: Rey Bango Sent: 30 January 2008 15:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short list. I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs. Rey... Kevin Aebig wrote: > SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than > SugerCRM is extremely close... > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex > and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that > matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code > required, if you haven't already. > > -Cameron > > Adrian Lynch wrote: >> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking > about >> CRMs, not CMSs. >> >> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. But >> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297740 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
Thanks for the replies gents. Like Adrian, I was interested in a CF-based CRM in case I wanted to update one but SugarCRM is on my short list. I did receive an offlist email from Marius Milosav of ScorpioSoft Corp. (http://www.scorpiosoft.com/) and will see if their CRM matches my needs. Rey... Kevin Aebig wrote: > SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than > SugerCRM is extremely close... > > !k > > -Original Message- > From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex > and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage > SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that > matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code > required, if you haven't already. > > -Cameron > > Adrian Lynch wrote: >> Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking > about >> CRMs, not CMSs. >> >> I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. But >> the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD >> > > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297737 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
SalesForce.com is good, but if you want basically the same thing, than SugerCRM is extremely close... !k -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code required, if you haven't already. -Cameron Adrian Lynch wrote: > Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking about > CRMs, not CMSs. > > I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. But > the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297734 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
i gues it's time i bought the new glasses i've been promising myself I definitely saw CMS when i read your question earlier. Sure you didnt change it on me? Cheers Mike On Jan 31, 2008 12:43 AM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking about > CRMs, not CMSs. > > I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. But > the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > > Cheers. > > Adrian > > > -Original Message- > From: Mike Kear > Sent: 30 January 2008 13:05 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? > > > I built my own, Adrian.You get a better result that way, I think. > I think you should consider doing that too. I think it makes good > business sense, and good sense from a technical point of view as well. > > You get precisely the feature list you want, dont get features you > wont use, and you know a LOT more about the inner workings of your > CMS at the end of it. > > It took me a few weeks of thinking about the structure, feature set i > wanted and the architecture, but when i started cutting code, I had > the first working completed site running in 2 weeks. And it took that > long because it was summer and I kept taking time off to go to the > beach. > > Since then, I have built lots of sites with that CMS, and i am about > to complete a new version using the lessons learned from the first > time around, and the wish list of the users. > > I reckon that project has paid for itsself time and time again - i am > reusing the code, i can add to it easily because i know everything > there is to know about its inner workings, and i am constantly > enhancing the original concept as i get new ideas. I also think i'm > a better project manager and developer as a result of doing it - it's > more complex than the vast majority of projects i'd undertaken before > that. > > I strongly suggest you consider doing your own. > > Or failing that, why not consider the AFPWebworks CMS? > > > Cheers > Mike Kear > > On Jan 30, 2008 11:22 PM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any luck finding any? We're about to install Sugar CRM, a PHP based one. > > Would rather CF :O) > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Rey Bango > > Sent: 29 January 2008 18:09 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: CF-Based CRMs? > > > > > > I'm looking for a CF-based CRM. Anyone know of a good one? > > > > Rey > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
I've seen some people using the SalesForce.com API along with Flex and/or CF with a certain amount of success. Lets you leverage SalesForce's features and customize your front as you like. For that matter I would just look at SalesForce as a solution by itself, no code required, if you haven't already. -Cameron Adrian Lynch wrote: > Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking about > CRMs, not CMSs. > > I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. But > the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297725 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
Cheers Mike. We've got our wires crossed a bit. I(and Rey) were asking about CRMs, not CMSs. I would nearly always want to do my own for the reasons you've given. But the man sat behind me wants one now and I don't have time :OD Cheers. Adrian -Original Message- From: Mike Kear Sent: 30 January 2008 13:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF-Based CRMs? I built my own, Adrian.You get a better result that way, I think. I think you should consider doing that too. I think it makes good business sense, and good sense from a technical point of view as well. You get precisely the feature list you want, dont get features you wont use, and you know a LOT more about the inner workings of your CMS at the end of it. It took me a few weeks of thinking about the structure, feature set i wanted and the architecture, but when i started cutting code, I had the first working completed site running in 2 weeks. And it took that long because it was summer and I kept taking time off to go to the beach. Since then, I have built lots of sites with that CMS, and i am about to complete a new version using the lessons learned from the first time around, and the wish list of the users. I reckon that project has paid for itsself time and time again - i am reusing the code, i can add to it easily because i know everything there is to know about its inner workings, and i am constantly enhancing the original concept as i get new ideas. I also think i'm a better project manager and developer as a result of doing it - it's more complex than the vast majority of projects i'd undertaken before that. I strongly suggest you consider doing your own. Or failing that, why not consider the AFPWebworks CMS? Cheers Mike Kear On Jan 30, 2008 11:22 PM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any luck finding any? We're about to install Sugar CRM, a PHP based one. > Would rather CF :O) > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango > Sent: 29 January 2008 18:09 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF-Based CRMs? > > > I'm looking for a CF-based CRM. Anyone know of a good one? > > Rey ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297724 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CF-Based CRMs?
I built my own, Adrian.You get a better result that way, I think. I think you should consider doing that too. I think it makes good business sense, and good sense from a technical point of view as well. You get precisely the feature list you want, dont get features you wont use, and you know a LOT more about the inner workings of your CMS at the end of it. It took me a few weeks of thinking about the structure, feature set i wanted and the architecture, but when i started cutting code, I had the first working completed site running in 2 weeks. And it took that long because it was summer and I kept taking time off to go to the beach. Since then, I have built lots of sites with that CMS, and i am about to complete a new version using the lessons learned from the first time around, and the wish list of the users. I reckon that project has paid for itsself time and time again - i am reusing the code, i can add to it easily because i know everything there is to know about its inner workings, and i am constantly enhancing the original concept as i get new ideas. I also think i'm a better project manager and developer as a result of doing it - it's more complex than the vast majority of projects i'd undertaken before that. I strongly suggest you consider doing your own. Or failing that, why not consider the AFPWebworks CMS? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Jan 30, 2008 11:22 PM, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Any luck finding any? We're about to install Sugar CRM, a PHP based one. > Would rather CF :O) > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango > Sent: 29 January 2008 18:09 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF-Based CRMs? > > > I'm looking for a CF-based CRM. Anyone know of a good one? > > Rey > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297720 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CF-Based CRMs?
Any luck finding any? We're about to install Sugar CRM, a PHP based one. Would rather CF :O) -Original Message- From: Rey Bango Sent: 29 January 2008 18:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF-Based CRMs? I'm looking for a CF-based CRM. Anyone know of a good one? Rey ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297719 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CF-Based CRMs?
I'm looking for a CF-based CRM. Anyone know of a good one? Rey ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:297669 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CF Based CRMs
The company I used to work for was developing one. Contact them at http://www.mcdelectric.com - Original Message - From: "Duane Boudreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:04 PM Subject: CF Based CRMs > Anyone out there know of a CF based CRM tool for managing sales leads? > > TIA, > __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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