Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread Jesse Houwing
Joshua Miller wrote:

Look in the CF Documentation under: CFML_Reference / Variables and
Reserved Words / CGI Environment Variables

There is a list of all of the CGI server and client variables that you
could use to create a server info page.

Use debugging to get a complete list of variables. You can also 
cfinclude the debugger on anypage.

It doesn't include information on the datasources or the memory settings
or anything like that, you have to get into the ServiceFactory to get
some of that information.
  

You can fin dthose settings in the settingssummary in the cfadmin though :)

Jesse

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Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread Gyrus
 You can fin dthose settings in the settingssummary in the cfadmin though
:)

Please check the original question, which was about someone without access
to CF Admin being able to view a summary of the settings...

I know you can get basic server info from CGI variables and the Server
scope, I was more interested in the actual settings, stuff like whitespace
management and cache setttings... What's ServiceFactory?

I think I'll go over to the MM wishlist with cfdumpsettings or
something... Obviously there are some things like DSN's and passwords that
shouldn't be accessible to everyone on a shared server, but I find it a real
pain to have to contact the hosts all the time to see, have they got this
turned on, what have they got that set to, etc. I'm sure they're miffed at
having to answer things like this all the time as well! Something like
phpinfo() seems like it would be easy to implement and very useful to us who
can't assume control of a server.

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Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Gyrus wrote:
 
 I know you can get basic server info from CGI variables and the Server
 scope, I was more interested in the actual settings, stuff like whitespace
 management and cache setttings... What's ServiceFactory?

http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/index.cfm?PageID=10


 I think I'll go over to the MM wishlist with cfdumpsettings or
 something... Obviously there are some things like DSN's and passwords that
 shouldn't be accessible to everyone on a shared server, but I find it a real
 pain to have to contact the hosts all the time to see, have they got this
 turned on, what have they got that set to, etc. I'm sure they're miffed at
 having to answer things like this all the time as well!

If you harass them long enough they will probably write an interface for 
you that will allow you to see exactly what they want you to see. That 
last part is a bit tricky, it could depend on the specific setup what 
knowledge is considered a security risk.

Jochem

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Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread cf-talk
One thing I never cared much for was the fact that anyone on a shared server
can see that server's serial number.

-Novak

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From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?


  You can fin dthose settings in the settingssummary in the cfadmin though
 :)

 Please check the original question, which was about someone without access
 to CF Admin being able to view a summary of the settings...

 I know you can get basic server info from CGI variables and the Server
 scope, I was more interested in the actual settings, stuff like whitespace
 management and cache setttings... What's ServiceFactory?

 I think I'll go over to the MM wishlist with cfdumpsettings or
 something... Obviously there are some things like DSN's and passwords that
 shouldn't be accessible to everyone on a shared server, but I find it a
real
 pain to have to contact the hosts all the time to see, have they got this
 turned on, what have they got that set to, etc. I'm sure they're miffed at
 having to answer things like this all the time as well! Something like
 phpinfo() seems like it would be easy to implement and very useful to us
who
 can't assume control of a server.

 Gyrus
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 work: http://www.tengai.co.uk
 play: http://norlonto.net
 PGP key available

 
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RE: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Gyrus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 1:36 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?
 
 
  You can fin dthose settings in the settingssummary in the cfadmin 
  though
 :)
 
 Please check the original question, which was about someone 
 without access to CF Admin being able to view a summary of 
 the settings...

In my mind this is something often (perhaps universally ignored) by
hosts:

I want to know such things so they should post them.  I want to know
when service packs and hotfixes are applied as well.  Most hosts only
irregularly update their users on this.

I would be really impressed by a host that provided a complete
settings/software inventory in their client's area.

Does any host do this?

Jim Davis


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Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
So they could theoretically call MM for tech support. ;P

 One thing I never cared much for was the fact that anyone
 on a shared server can see that server's serial number.

 -Novak

 - Original Message -
 From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:36 AM
 Subject: Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?


  You can fin dthose settings in the settingssummary in
  the cfadmin though
 :)

 Please check the original question, which was about
 someone without access
 to CF Admin being able to view a summary of the
 settings...

 I know you can get basic server info from CGI variables
 and the Server
 scope, I was more interested in the actual settings,
 stuff like whitespace
 management and cache setttings... What's ServiceFactory?

 I think I'll go over to the MM wishlist with
 cfdumpsettings or
 something... Obviously there are some things like DSN's
 and passwords that
 shouldn't be accessible to everyone on a shared server,
 but I find it a
 real
 pain to have to contact the hosts all the time to see,
 have they got this
 turned on, what have they got that set to, etc. I'm sure
 they're miffed at
 having to answer things like this all the time as well!
 Something like
 phpinfo() seems like it would be easy to implement and
 very useful to us
 who
 can't assume control of a server.

 Gyrus
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 work: http://www.tengai.co.uk
 play: http://norlonto.net
 PGP key available


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Re: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-02-01 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 You can fin dthose settings in the settingssummary in the
 cfadmin though
 :)

 Please check the original question, which was about
 someone without access
 to CF Admin being able to view a summary of the
 settings...

 I know you can get basic server info from CGI variables
 and the Server
 scope, I was more interested in the actual settings, stuff
 like whitespace
 management and cache setttings... What's ServiceFactory?

Even if you can't get the info you want from the serviceFactory (which I
honestly know little about), you could probably figure out ways to test for
some of the various conditions on the server and create your own script to
test for and show this info. Like you can determine if the default client
variable storage uses cookies by checking for the existance of the
cfid/cftoken cookie -- it's easy enough to determine if the server is using
UUID's for cftokens, and whitespace could be determined by using
cfsavecontent to create a specific string and then checking the length of
that string.


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CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-01-31 Thread Gyrus
Is there any way for someone without access to CF Admin (e.g. on shared
hosting) to output a full summary of the CF Server's settings, a la PHP's
phpinfo()?

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RE: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?

2003-01-31 Thread Joshua Miller
Look in the CF Documentation under: CFML_Reference / Variables and
Reserved Words / CGI Environment Variables

There is a list of all of the CGI server and client variables that you
could use to create a server info page.

It doesn't include information on the datasources or the memory settings
or anything like that, you have to get into the ServiceFactory to get
some of that information.

Joshua Miller
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:38 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF equivalent of phpinfo()?


Is there any way for someone without access to CF Admin (e.g. on shared
hosting) to output a full summary of the CF Server's settings, a la
PHP's phpinfo()?

Gyrus
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