CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT)
Hi all,

Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other tags
that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
versions?

This was put out by someone in our company telling us that we need to recode
all of our pages to remove these.

Just wanted to get info about it before I fired back an e-mail to this
person.

It would be extremely helpful if people from Macromedia chimed in here.

Steve
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Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Rick Root
DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:
 
 Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other tags
 that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
 versions?

CFFORM and CFSELECT are most certainly *NOT* based on applets, nor could 
I fathom them ever going away, as long as CFML is alive.

I wouldn't be surprised though to see the actual applet-based ones go 
away like CFSLIDER CFGRID, CFTREE, etc...

- Rick
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RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Mike Townend
reading a blog about MAX (Ben's I beleive) it was mentioned that the next
version of CF would be using flash for these tags (CFGRID and CFTREE) rather
than java

 
HTH

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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:
 
 Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other
tags
 that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
 versions?

CFFORM and CFSELECT are most certainly *NOT* based on applets, nor could 
I fathom them ever going away, as long as CFML is alive.

I wouldn't be surprised though to see the actual applet-based ones go 
away like CFSLIDER CFGRID, CFTREE, etc...

- Rick 
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RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT)
Rick,

 
I tend to agree with you about CFForm and CFSelect, but I included them
because the person who notified me included them.

 
Steve

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From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:54 AM
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Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:
 
 Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other
tags
 that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
 versions?

CFFORM and CFSELECT are most certainly *NOT* based on applets, nor could 
I fathom them ever going away, as long as CFML is alive.

I wouldn't be surprised though to see the actual applet-based ones go 
away like CFSLIDER CFGRID, CFTREE, etc...

- Rick 
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Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 08:41AM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) 
wrote:

 Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and 
 other tags
 that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.  even CFFORM!) in 
 future
 versions?

 This was put out by someone in our company telling us that we need to 
 recode
 all of our pages to remove these.

I don't know of any immediate plans to deprecate these tags.Do you 
know where he or she got this information?

Christian
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Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Jesse Houwing
It would seem logical to me if they replaced them with flash versions that 
have the same behaviour. Easier to maintain from macromedia's side and more 
compatible with the average windows setup nowadays.

Jesse

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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 08:41:37 -0500
Subject: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

Hi all,

Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other tags
that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
versions?

This was put out by someone in our company telling us that we need to recode
all of our pages to remove these.

Just wanted to get info about it before I fired back an e-mail to this
person.

It would be extremely helpful if people from Macromedia chimed in here.

Steve
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Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
At MAX, they showed some ideas the engineers were playing with. One featured
the known applet-based tags implemented using Flash via FLEX. This was
obviously a very rough demo, but it showed that MM was looking at the
possibilities.

I don't recall them ever saying that they were definitely using Flash
instead of Java, or that the applet tags were definitely going away. The
demos were all presented with the caveat that everything shown was
speculative.

-Kevin

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Townend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

 reading a blog about MAX (Ben's I beleive) it was mentioned that the next
 version of CF would be using flash for these tags (CFGRID and CFTREE)
rather
 than java

 HTH



 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2004 13:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets


 DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:
 
  Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other
 tags
  that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
  versions?

 CFFORM and CFSELECT are most certainly *NOT* based on applets, nor could
 I fathom them ever going away, as long as CFML is alive.

 I wouldn't be surprised though to see the actual applet-based ones go
 away like CFSLIDER CFGRID, CFTREE, etc...

- Rick
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RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Mike Townend
yea, on re-reading the entry it was a parameter switch that told it to be
flash instead, its way too early to speculate if macromedia are to do away
with the applets until they make such an announcment

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2004 15:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

At MAX, they showed some ideas the engineers were playing with. One featured
the known applet-based tags implemented using Flash via FLEX. This was
obviously a very rough demo, but it showed that MM was looking at the
possibilities.

I don't recall them ever saying that they were definitely using Flash
instead of Java, or that the applet tags were definitely going away. The
demos were all presented with the caveat that everything shown was
speculative.

-Kevin

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Townend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:58 AM
Subject: RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

 reading a blog about MAX (Ben's I beleive) it was mentioned that the next
 version of CF would be using flash for these tags (CFGRID and CFTREE)
rather
 than java

 HTH



 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2004 13:54
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets


 DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) wrote:
 
  Have any of you heard that Macromedia will be dropping CFGrid and other
 tags
  that are applet based (cfslider, cfselect, etc.even CFFORM!) in future
  versions?

 CFFORM and CFSELECT are most certainly *NOT* based on applets, nor could
 I fathom them ever going away, as long as CFML is alive.

 I wouldn't be surprised though to see the actual applet-based ones go
 away like CFSLIDER CFGRID, CFTREE, etc...

- Rick
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RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Samuel Neff
I could be remembering incorrectly but I thought they showed that there was
an option to use either flash or java, for backwards compatibility.

Also, there were a lot more than just the existing tags.. whole forms and
such.Very kewl stuff.

Sam

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From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

At MAX, they showed some ideas the engineers were playing with. One featured
the known applet-based tags implemented using Flash via FLEX. This was
obviously a very rough demo, but it showed that MM was looking at the
possibilities.

I don't recall them ever saying that they were definitely using Flash
instead of Java, or that the applet tags were definitely going away. The
demos were all presented with the caveat that everything shown was
speculative.

-Kevin
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Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
Yes, I was just trying to keep my description simple. I agree that it looked
cool.

-Kevin

- Original Message - 
From: Samuel Neff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets

 I could be remembering incorrectly but I thought they showed that there
was
 an option to use either flash or java, for backwards compatibility.

 Also, there were a lot more than just the existing tags.. whole forms and
 such.Very kewl stuff.

 Sam

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 10:42 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFGrid, CFForm and other cf tags that use applets


 At MAX, they showed some ideas the engineers were playing with. One
featured
 the known applet-based tags implemented using Flash via FLEX. This was
 obviously a very rough demo, but it showed that MM was looking at the
 possibilities.

 I don't recall them ever saying that they were definitely using Flash
 instead of Java, or that the applet tags were definitely going away. The
 demos were all presented with the caveat that everything shown was
 speculative.

 -Kevin


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