Dick, Yep it is getting there. I still think that a production level version of CFMX will never happen on an Apple as there just isnt enough of them running within ISP's etc... nothing can be done about that, its a legacy thing and it aint gonna happen overnight. What would be good to see is a version which is "Mac OS X" compatible and is supported - this could be the Linux version. That way you do not have to sell a Mac version per say but get sales via another avenue and if the user decides to buy it and run it on OSX then so be it!
As for the DB's, I do see your point, but what also needs to be considered with them is the features they provide - such as Stored Procedures, Triggers etc.... (which some of them do not support). Is there no way you can install CFMX on a Mac OS and use a Windows based SQL server? (annoying, but its a step in the right direction). Neil -----Original Message----- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara@;mac.com] Sent: 23 October 2002 10:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Known CFMX issues under consideration for upcoming Updater re leas e Neil I hope MM is looking at a Mac OS X version of CFMX -- at least for developers. I have been told that there isn't a large enough population of Mac OS X servers to build a business case for releasing a supported production version. That said, Sybase and Oracle have released their latest db servers to run on Mac OS X, and IBM is conducting a survey to see if there is enough demand to warrant a DB/2 product for Mac OS X. So, Sybase, Oracle, and maybe IBM see an opportunity to make money on the Mac Server Market. If IBM decides to release a Mac product, that will mean that 3 of the top 4 production databases have Mac products. I have Sybase and Oracle (and every other JDBC-compliant db I could find) running on my TiBook. I just converted a client's large SQL-Server db to Sybase to see what is involved. As you may know, Sybase and SQL-Server share a common ancestry, T/SQL, etc. There were a few differences, but everything works fine, even though everything is running on the same box. It performs well, and makes a very nice demo. Later, I will do the same exercise with Oracle -- just 'cause I can. Sybase_ASE, on the Mac, has an interesting feature -- using Rendezvous (Apple's zero configuration networking) it can detect and connect (with appropriate security) to any Sybase servers that exist on the network or wireless. So, conceivably, you could grab your wireless laptop, dance into a client's office, connect to his production db and do a prepared or ad hoc CFMX demo -- no wires, no configuration, no fiddling, no nuthin' between you and the presentation The list of dbs that run on OS X and interface with CFMX include: MySQL PostgreSQL OpenBase PointBase Embedded PointBase Server FrontBase Xindice Sybase_ASE Oracle9i And to convert existing offline databases to a more robust RDBMS suitable for online use, CFMX can interface the following running on Mac OS X. FileMaker MS-Access 97/2000 running under emulation with an interface from OpenLink Software. The Client Sybase db that I created (mention above) was actually built from a MS-Access 97 mdb, with CFMX programs reading the Access db, then creating,validating, normalizing the Sybase db (using the same programs that created the SQL-Server db, several years ago). So, with the exception of SQL-Server and DB/2, you can run (pretty much) everything you need for a complete CFMX developer system in native OS X, on a single box. It's getting there! Dick On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at 01:26 AM, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote: > Hey Dick, > > Do you think MM are serious on porting over to Mac OS X? even its > just in a > developer capacity :-) (I dont think Macs will ever be a hit on the > server > market) > > Neil ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
