Re: CFinclude issues
include a file that includes the file you're including. CF_Inception! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Thank you for your response. I did take the .. away: cfinclude template=/includes/sponsors.cfm and it still did not display the include. There are not any errors that pop up, it just does not display. Thank you, Eileen Are you sure you need the .. in front of the first slash? It could be a relative path issue. What errors are you getting? Best regards, Bill Franklin -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFinclude issues I am trying to code a cfinclude on a template page: cfinclude template=../includes/sponsors.cfm to show this include when its pages are displayed. The name of the include is correct, the location it is directing to is correct, but it will not work. Does someone have an easy solution to help me? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350194 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
By 'not work' I mean the include does not display. There is no error message, just a page not displaying the include. Thank you, Eileen What do you meanby it does not work, is there an error, the file is not included, what? Regards Russ Michaels From my mobile On 1 Mar 2012 21:16, Eileen Harberts eil...@tdai.net wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFinclude issues
Try a cfabort showerror=Here I am in the included page. Also, try using the fully qualified path name for the include to see if that works. Freundliche Grüße / Best regards, Bill Franklin Computer Integrated Mfg. Bayer CropScience LP 8400 Hawthorne Road, Room 2447 Kansas City, MO 64120 Tel: +1 816 242 2148 Fax: +1 816 242 2047 E-mail: bill.frank...@bayer.com Web: http://www.bayercropscience.com Vorstand: Sandra E. Peterson, Vorsitzende | Lykele van der Broek, Achim Noack, Rüdiger Scheitza, Michael A. Schulz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Werner Baumann Sitz der Gesellschaft: Monheim am Rhein | Eintragung: Amtsgericht Düsseldorf, HRB 46985 -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:08 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFinclude issues Thank you for your response. I did take the .. away: cfinclude template=/includes/sponsors.cfm and it still did not display the include. There are not any errors that pop up, it just does not display. Thank you, Eileen Are you sure you need the .. in front of the first slash? It could be a relative path issue. What errors are you getting? Best regards, Bill Franklin -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFinclude issues I am trying to code a cfinclude on a template page: cfinclude template=../includes/sponsors.cfm to show this include when its pages are displayed. The name of the include is correct, the location it is directing to is correct, but it will not work. Does someone have an easy solution to help me? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350198 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
if there is no error then the cfinclude is working, the content is simply not being disaplyed. Do you have a cfsetting somewhere set to only display cfoutpout maybe ? On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Bill Franklin bill.frank...@bayer.comwrote: Try a cfabort showerror=Here I am in the included page. Also, try using the fully qualified path name for the include to see if that works. Freundliche Grüße / Best regards, Bill Franklin Computer Integrated Mfg. Bayer CropScience LP 8400 Hawthorne Road, Room 2447 Kansas City, MO 64120 Tel: +1 816 242 2148 Fax: +1 816 242 2047 E-mail: bill.frank...@bayer.com Web: http://www.bayercropscience.com Vorstand: Sandra E. Peterson, Vorsitzende | Lykele van der Broek, Achim Noack, Rüdiger Scheitza, Michael A. Schulz Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Werner Baumann Sitz der Gesellschaft: Monheim am Rhein | Eintragung: Amtsgericht Düsseldorf, HRB 46985 -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 9:08 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFinclude issues Thank you for your response. I did take the .. away: cfinclude template=/includes/sponsors.cfm and it still did not display the include. There are not any errors that pop up, it just does not display. Thank you, Eileen Are you sure you need the .. in front of the first slash? It could be a relative path issue. What errors are you getting? Best regards, Bill Franklin -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFinclude issues I am trying to code a cfinclude on a template page: cfinclude template=../includes/sponsors.cfm to show this include when its pages are displayed. The name of the include is correct, the location it is directing to is correct, but it will not work. Does someone have an easy solution to help me? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350199 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFinclude issues
This is a stab in the dark - but it did catch me once. It's not a cfinclude on a cfincluded page, is it? I didn't bother to test it just now but I don't believe that will work. I'd check Firebug or IE F12 to see if it gives you a clue. -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 10:09 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFinclude issues By 'not work' I mean the include does not display. There is no error message, just a page not displaying the include. Thank you, Eileen What do you meanby it does not work, is there an error, the file is not included, what? Regards Russ Michaels From my mobile On 1 Mar 2012 21:16, Eileen Harberts eil...@tdai.net wrote: ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350201 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Stephens, Larry V steph...@iu.edu wrote: This is a stab in the dark - but it did catch me once. It's not a cfinclude on a cfincluded page, is it? I didn't bother to test it just now but I don't believe that will work. For the record, that *will* work. -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350202 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
This is a stab in the dark - but it did catch me once. It's not a cfinclude on a cfincluded page, is it? I didn't bother to test it just now but I don't believe that will work. This will work fine, actually, just like Cameron said, unless you include a file that includes the file you're including. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350203 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
unless you include a file that includes the file you're including. Even this will work, provided you have a test to stop the recursive loop. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350204 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFinclude issues
Aren't they all also relative to the original including templates path though even though they're nested? I feel like I got bitten by that once... -Original Message- From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=.outdoors.org [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=.outdoors.org] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 2:21 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFinclude issues unless you include a file that includes the file you're including. Even this will work, provided you have a test to stop the recursive loop. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350205 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Aren't they all also relative to the original including templates path though even though they're nested? I would say yes. Better do this in the same directory. Any way, I do not relly see a good occasion for using recursive includes, because they will all work on the same variable scope. I sometimes use recursive custom tags though. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350206 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Not to state the obvious, but you are trying to include it from a .cfm page right? You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM, wrote: Aren't they all also relative to the original including templates path though even though they're nested? I would say yes. Better do this in the same directory. Any way, I do not relly see a good occasion for using recursive includes, because they will all work on the same variable scope. I sometimes use recursive custom tags though. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350207 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350208 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350209 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Yes Andrew, that was the point I was making. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350210 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFinclude issues
Actually you can... The web server can be set up to have ColdFusion process any file you want it to. I had to work on one site once where it was all ColdFusion, but all the extensions were .htm. -Original Message- From: Brian Cain [mailto:bcc9...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 4:01 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: CFinclude issues Yes Andrew, that was the point I was making. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Do a view source Depending on the server .html could be rendered at cfm On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Well the point was lost, because saying you can, implies that it can be called or used by ColdFusion. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Brian Cain bcc9...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Andrew, that was the point I was making. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350213 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Andrew: You must have meant that for the other guy. My original reply said you cannot use cfinclude in a .htm file. I will add the addendum that being the case in a traditional server configuration. Brian Cain On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Well the point was lost, because saying you can, implies that it can be called or used by ColdFusion. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Brian Cain bcc9...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Andrew, that was the point I was making. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350218 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
Then it is not an html file then is it, if someone sets the server up to server files to ColdFusion server, I would not consider this an html file. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Brian Thornton br...@cfdeveloper.comwrote: Do a view source Depending on the server .html could be rendered at cfm On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually you can't being an html file, it will never be run by ColdFusion, and will only be seen as a standard html comment. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:53 AM, wrote: You cannot use a cfinclude on a .htm page Well, actually you can, ... but it will include nothing ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350219 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
CFinclude issues
I am trying to code a cfinclude on a template page: cfinclude template=../includes/sponsors.cfm to show this include when its pages are displayed. The name of the include is correct, the location it is directing to is correct, but it will not work. Does someone have an easy solution to help me? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: CFinclude issues
Are you sure you need the .. in front of the first slash? It could be a relative path issue. What errors are you getting? Best regards, Bill Franklin -Original Message- From: Eileen Harberts [mailto:eil...@tdai.net] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:16 PM To: cf-talk Subject: CFinclude issues I am trying to code a cfinclude on a template page: cfinclude template=../includes/sponsors.cfm to show this include when its pages are displayed. The name of the include is correct, the location it is directing to is correct, but it will not work. Does someone have an easy solution to help me? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: CFinclude issues
What do you meanby it does not work, is there an error, the file is not included, what? Regards Russ Michaels From my mobile On 1 Mar 2012 21:16, Eileen Harberts eil...@tdai.net wrote: I am trying to code a cfinclude on a template page: cfinclude template=../includes/sponsors.cfm to show this include when its pages are displayed. The name of the include is correct, the location it is directing to is correct, but it will not work. Does someone have an easy solution to help me? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:350190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Well it's partly the curiosity, partly a sense of adventure, but mostly I think it's the fame and the money. (stolen line from H2G2, but it seemed to fit so perfectly!) Really I just want to switch because, WHY NOT give it a shot. If I can employ the free version when the application doesn't need any more than that, then I can get people on smaller projects who wouldn't normally consider ColdFusion due to cost that they can go with CF by using BD. As far as I'm concerned, the more sites built in CFML the better. Whether they run on CFMX or BD is largely irrelevant to us as developers on the whole. The point is that some people pass on using CF in favor of PHP or ASP due to cost, so now that I have a chance to test it out, I'll be in a better position to advise people on how to use BD to develop a site in CFML without worrying about the expense of the application server. The CF dev community can only benefit from this, as all of those people who have used the cost argument to say that ASP is better have now just lost a large part of their argument. Also, like I said, I've had a few little issues with some of my functions in BD and I'm sending them over to the guys at NewAtlanta today, but I'm actually liking it quite a lot so far. Even the problems I've had have been pretty simple to fix. _ From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues At 11:09 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote: I didn't think it through very well before posting. I just got frustrated and asked. So, in the end, I'm not sure if I'm going to be switching over to BD at all. Why switch to begin with? Do you need functionality in BD that is not in CFMX, or is it the price of the license? -- Alex [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Another advantage to BD is that you can sell to production Mac OS X based clients -- this may not be a large base, but it is growing. Nothing wrong with having more potential customers. A slight disadvantage is that PHP, Perl, etc. come pre-installed on Mac OS X.But BD has a very simple install that makes it easy to get up and running with CFML. Dick On Aug 20, 2004, at 7:05 AM, Ken Ferguson wrote: Well it's partly the curiosity, partly a sense of adventure, but mostly I think it's the fame and the money. (stolen line from H2G2, but it seemed to fit so perfectly!) Really I just want to switch because, WHY NOT give it a shot. If I can employ the free version when the application doesn't need any more than that, then I can get people on smaller projects who wouldn't normally consider ColdFusion due to cost that they can go with CF by using BD. As far as I'm concerned, the more sites built in CFML the better. Whether they run on CFMX or BD is largely irrelevant to us as developers on the whole. The point is that some people pass on using CF in favor of PHP or ASP due to cost, so now that I have a chance to test it out, I'll be in a better position to advise people on how to use BD to develop a site in CFML without worrying about the expense of the application server. The CF dev community can only benefit from this, as all of those people who have used the cost argument to say that ASP is better have now just lost a large part of their argument. Also, like I said, I've had a few little issues with some of my functions in BD and I'm sending them over to the guys at NewAtlanta today, but I'm actually liking it quite a lot so far. Even the problems I've had have been pretty simple to fix. _ From: Alexander Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues At 11:09 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote: I didn't think it through very well before posting. I just got frustrated and asked. So, in the end, I'm not sure if I'm going to be switching over to BD at all. Why switch to begin with? Do you need functionality in BD that is not in CFMX, or is it the price of the license? -- Alex [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
BlueDragon cfinclude issues
This happens on BD 6.1 as my dev server. I have this code: cfset variables.incfilename = attributes.mode .cfm cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse Which produces the error: CFML Runtime error: billingandshipping.cfm does not exist. So I replaced the whole thing with this code: cfinclude template=billingandshipping.cfm And it all works just fine??? So then I changed the original, just to test, like this: cfset variables.incfilename = billingandshipping.cfm cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse Which produces the error: CFML Runtime error: billingandshipping.cfm does not exist. Has anyone got any bright ideas on why this is so? In both instances where it is throwing the error, it gets to the cfinclude, but thinks the file doesn't exist. But the middle one just including the file straight away works perfectly. Incidentally, the first, second and third code blocks all work fine on my prod server running CFMX. Thanks, Ferg [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Maybe I am reading the following line wrong, but it looks like you are trying to evaluate the filename as a variable. cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) Shouldn't the above be as follows? cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename) -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
You have this block: cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse ... I think the issue is that you're testing to see if Evaluate(variables.incfilename) exists, but then you're only including variables.incfilename.Try cfinclude template=#Evaluate(variables.incfilename)# Instead. Or, better yet, find a way to get rid of the evaluate. (I haven't used BD, but Evaluate is probably slow as it is in Macromedia CF) Scott -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Right, first I had cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename), but it yields the same result, I was just playing around to see if anything would help and my last revolution was trying the evaluate. It doesn't really matter though, because it IS getting past that cfif and into the cfinclude, but then it craps out. Ken Ferguson Fitz and Floyd http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com/ http://stores.ebay.com/fitzandfloydscharmingtails _ From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Maybe I am reading the following line wrong, but it looks like you are trying to evaluate the filename as a variable. cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) Shouldn't the above be as follows? cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename) -Matt _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Nope, same result. Also, cfoutput#variables.incfilename#/cfoutput gives the same value as cfoutput#evaluate(variables.incfilename)#/cfoutput The evaluate just got in there as I was playing around with things. It's not really useful in this code. Remove all the evaluates and you still get the same thing. _ From: Scott Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon cfinclude issues You have this block: cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse ... I think the issue is that you're testing to see if Evaluate(variables.incfilename) exists, but then you're only including variables.incfilename.Try cfinclude template=#Evaluate(variables.incfilename)# Instead. Or, better yet, find a way to get rid of the evaluate. (I haven't used BD, but Evaluate is probably slow as it is in Macromedia CF) Scott -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
You are not modifying it for path so fileexists( ) should crap out - unless BD does relative paths... does it? Also - what's with the evaluate( ) function? Seems superflous to me. -mk -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: BlueDragon cfinclude issues This happens on BD 6.1 as my dev server. I have this code: cfset variables.incfilename = attributes.mode .cfm cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse Which produces the error: CFML Runtime error: billingandshipping.cfm does not exist. So I replaced the whole thing with this code: cfinclude template=billingandshipping.cfm And it all works just fine??? So then I changed the original, just to test, like this: cfset variables.incfilename = billingandshipping.cfm cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse Which produces the error: CFML Runtime error: billingandshipping.cfm does not exist. Has anyone got any bright ideas on why this is so? In both instances where it is throwing the error, it gets to the cfinclude, but thinks the file doesn't exist. But the middle one just including the file straight away works perfectly. Incidentally, the first, second and third code blocks all work fine on my prod server running CFMX. Thanks, Ferg [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
In testing locally I found that FileExists() seems to be the problem. Basically, nothing inside the cfif executes. Simply including a template based on a variable without checking to see if it exists works. In fact, the following template shows this strange behavior. cfset foo = index.cfm cfif FileExists(foo) cfabort /cfif cfinclude template=#foo# When called index.cfm will be included. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ferguson Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Right, first I had cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename), but it yields the same result, I was just playing around to see if anything would help and my last revolution was trying the evaluate. It doesn't really matter though, because it IS getting past that cfif and into the cfinclude, but then it craps out. Ken Ferguson Fitz and Floyd http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com/ http://stores.ebay.com/fitzandfloydscharmingtails _ From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Maybe I am reading the following line wrong, but it looks like you are trying to evaluate the filename as a variable. cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) Shouldn't the above be as follows? cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename) -Matt _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
I didn't think it through very well before posting. I just got frustrated and asked. The problem was, or rather is, that I am an idiot. The evaluate was only in there because I was playing around with it. I was getting the EXACT same results without it in there. However, I was causing another problem INSIDE the included file when I was outputting a variable that didn't exist. I got hung up on the fact that I thought it was failing to include the file and didn't think about the fact that the error might be happening on the first line of the included file. So I took the blinders off and tried looking at it all again. I went into billingandshipping.cfm and found the error on line 2. Now it all works fine and next time I'll try looking a little harder before throwing up my hands in frustration. It's just that I've had so many issues with BD and functions. I seem to have been forced to rework every single one of them in the move from CFMX. They're all flying well on my prod server which runs MX, but they fail on BD for any number of reasons. So, in the end, I'm not sure if I'm going to be switching over to BD at all. Sorry to waste everyone's time, he says walking away feeling like a total moron. --Ferg _ From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues You are not modifying it for path so fileexists( ) should crap out - unless BD does relative paths... does it? Also - what's with the evaluate( ) function? Seems superflous to me. -mk [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Are you sure that the CFIF is getting passed?It really seems like that should fail. It seems like the error could be misleading and being thrown at the CFFF rather than the CFINCLUDE - try commenting out the CFINCLUDE and see if you still get the problem. If you do then you know, at least, that the error message is less than specific.;^) Jim Davis _ From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Nope, same result. Also, cfoutput#variables.incfilename#/cfoutput gives the same value as cfoutput#evaluate(variables.incfilename)#/cfoutput The evaluate just got in there as I was playing around with things. It's not really useful in this code. Remove all the evaluates and you still get the same thing. _ From: Scott Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlueDragon cfinclude issues You have this block: cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) cfinclude template=#variables.incfilename# cfelse ... I think the issue is that you're testing to see if Evaluate(variables.incfilename) exists, but then you're only including variables.incfilename.Try cfinclude template=#Evaluate(variables.incfilename)# Instead. Or, better yet, find a way to get rid of the evaluate. (I haven't used BD, but Evaluate is probably slow as it is in Macromedia CF) Scott -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Matt, Yes but... fileexists requires the fule path (i.e. e:\wwwroot\index.cfm - not just index.cfm) so I would definitley expect the cfif to return FALSE - or am I missing something? -mark -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues In testing locally I found that FileExists() seems to be the problem. Basically, nothing inside the cfif executes. Simply including a template based on a variable without checking to see if it exists works. In fact, the following template shows this strange behavior. cfset foo = index.cfm cfif FileExists(foo) cfabort /cfif cfinclude template=#foo# When called index.cfm will be included. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ferguson Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Right, first I had cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename), but it yields the same result, I was just playing around to see if anything would help and my last revolution was trying the evaluate. It doesn't really matter though, because it IS getting past that cfif and into the cfinclude, but then it craps out. Ken Ferguson Fitz and Floyd http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com/ http://stores.ebay.com/fitzandfloydscharmingtails _ From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Maybe I am reading the following line wrong, but it looks like you are trying to evaluate the filename as a variable. cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) Shouldn't the above be as follows? cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename) -Matt _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
At 11:09 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote: I didn't think it through very well before posting. I just got frustrated and asked. So, in the end, I'm not sure if I'm going to be switching over to BD at all. Why switch to begin with? Do you need functionality in BD that is not in CFMX, or is it the price of the license? -- Alex [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
full path not fule -Original Message- From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Matt, Yes but... fileexists requires the fule path (i.e. e:\wwwroot\index.cfm - not just index.cfm) so I would definitley expect the cfif to return FALSE - or am I missing something? -mark [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues
Nope, you aren't missing something. I read his code and ran with it instead of thinking about what the FileExists() function expects. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark A. Kruger - CFG Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 11:12 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Matt, Yes but... fileexists requires the fule path (i.e. e:\wwwroot\index.cfm - not just index.cfm) so I would definitley expect the cfif to return FALSE - or am I missing something? -mark -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:05 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues In testing locally I found that FileExists() seems to be the problem. Basically, nothing inside the cfif executes. Simply including a template based on a variable without checking to see if it exists works. In fact, the following template shows this strange behavior. cfset foo = index.cfm cfif FileExists(foo) cfabort /cfif cfinclude template=#foo# When called index.cfm will be included. -Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Ferguson Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Right, first I had cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename), but it yields the same result, I was just playing around to see if anything would help and my last revolution was trying the evaluate. It doesn't really matter though, because it IS getting past that cfif and into the cfinclude, but then it craps out. Ken Ferguson Fitz and Floyd http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.fitzandfloyd.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com http://www.exclusivelyfitz.com/ http://stores.ebay.com/fitzandfloydscharmingtails _ From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:40 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues Maybe I am reading the following line wrong, but it looks like you are trying to evaluate the filename as a variable. cfif fileexists(evaluate(variables.incfilename)) Shouldn't the above be as follows? cfif fileexists(variables.incfilename) -Matt _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
converting to BD (was RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues)
It's just that I've had so many issues with BD and functions. I seem to have been forced to rework every single one of them in the move from CFMX. They're all flying well on my prod server which runs MX, but they fail on BD for any number of reasons. So, in the end, I'm not sure if I'm going to be switching over to BD at all. I'm not sure exactly what issues you are having, but my experience has been that it can indeed be a challenge to move over. I am currently working on a rather large application based on CFMX that we want to move over to BD.NET for deployment on .NET. I knew there would be certain incompatibilities like the lack of cfchart, which we use as well as other tiny details like the handling of GUIDs. These tiny details can be annoying when you first start the process, but I have found them to be quite beneficial in the end as the resulting code not only works on BD, but works better on CFMX than it did in the first place. I was so impressed by this fact that I know test all CFMX applications I write in BD as well just for quality purposes. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: converting to BD (was RE: BlueDragon cfinclude issues)
Big warning though if you use XMLsearch In BD don't expect to get the same results in MX if you are using functions... count(//*) works great in BD not so much in MX...that being said if anyone has a work around for it other than using Stuct functions on the XML object let me know. I am working on an XMLsearch tutorial and I would love to have a workaround for it in xmlsearch. AdamH On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 11:32:57 -0400, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's just that I've had so many issues with BD and functions. I seem to have been forced to rework every single one of them in the move from CFMX. They're all flying well on my prod server which runs MX, but they fail on BD for any number of reasons. So, in the end, I'm not sure if I'm going to be switching over to BD at all. I'm not sure exactly what issues you are having, but my experience has been that it can indeed be a challenge to move over. I am currently working on a rather large application based on CFMX that we want to move over to BD.NET for deployment on .NET. I knew there would be certain incompatibilities like the lack of cfchart, which we use as well as other tiny details like the handling of GUIDs. These tiny details can be annoying when you first start the process, but I have found them to be quite beneficial in the end as the resulting code not only works on BD, but works better on CFMX than it did in the first place. I was so impressed by this fact that I know test all CFMX applications I write in BD as well just for quality purposes. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
