Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 22:04, Adrocknaphobia wrote: Maybe you shouldn't have rushed into 10g r2 eh? Dunno about you, but I felt fairly silly standing up in a dev. meeting and saying we couldn't try r2 (as a solution to some other issue) because CF doesn't support it :-/ -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220794 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 22:04, Adrocknaphobia wrote: Maybe you shouldn't have rushed into 10g r2 eh? Well, I don't think that's really a valid statement. I mean, most shops don't use ColdFusion exclusively to access their Oracle database, and yet it's ColdFusion that seems to have missed the Release 2 support. Further, the Release Notes for the 7.0.1 updater are extremely mis-leading (and I've noted as such, but to no avail), as it says Oracle 10g RDBMS support under New platform support and doesn't say that it's only Release 1. Regards, Dave. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220811 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
It just seems a bit hard to fault MM and DataDirect on this one. I don't see how they can forecast what Oracle will be doing in future releases. When you got CF they certified that it would work on the most recent version of Oracle 10g at the time. I don't think anyone every claimed that it would continue to work for all future revisions. -Adam On 10/12/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 October 2005 22:04, Adrocknaphobia wrote: Maybe you shouldn't have rushed into 10g r2 eh? Well, I don't think that's really a valid statement. I mean, most shops don't use ColdFusion exclusively to access their Oracle database, and yet it's ColdFusion that seems to have missed the Release 2 support. Further, the Release Notes for the 7.0.1 updater are extremely mis-leading (and I've noted as such, but to no avail), as it says Oracle 10g RDBMS support under New platform support and doesn't say that it's only Release 1. Regards, Dave. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220826 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On 10/12/05, Adrocknaphobia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It just seems a bit hard to fault MM and DataDirect on this one. I don't see how they can forecast what Oracle will be doing in future releases. When you got CF they certified that it would work on the most recent version of Oracle 10g at the time. I don't think anyone every claimed that it would continue to work for all future revisions. Understood, but most vendors of the calibur of Macromedia and Oracle are partners, meaning that they're going to receive significant (enough) advance notice of pending releases. Macromedia certainly isn't an end-user in the sense that they have to go to Oracle's download site to check for new releases. Further, the initial release of Oracle R2 (which was only for Linux) was in July. The other versions came out in early-to-mid August and Windows finally on 9/8. Merrimack came out at the end of September. So even assuming that Macromedia had found out by going to their downloads page, there was still months of warning. Now, you don't just throw in a set of drivers to Merrimack without significant regression testing, which is why I'm sure they were left out of the release cycle. I'm certainly not faulting them for making a sound business decision like that. But it's hard to criticize developers for upgrading to Release 2 when it has been out for as long as it has and other third-party vendors have done their part in upgrading their apps (anecdotally, our CRM vendor had the necessary driver patch to us within a day or R2's July release). All of the above being said, I know Stephen and the Macromedia people are on top of this and hopefully this whole discussion is moot in short order. And, like I said, clarification in the Release Notes for Merrimack would have gone a long way toward raising the necessary red-flag in advance of any upgrade. Regards, Dave. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220837 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
Hi, We hit the stored procedure issue with ColdFusion MX 6.1/7 and Oracle Database 10g R2. Does anyone know when Macromedia is going to release the updated DataDirect JDBC drivers (version 3.5)? Thanks. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220637 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
Macromedia will not be releasing them per say - they belong to DataDirect; -Original Message- From: wolf2k5 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2005 10:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA? Hi, We hit the stored procedure issue with ColdFusion MX 6.1/7 and Oracle Database 10g R2. Does anyone know when Macromedia is going to release the updated DataDirect JDBC drivers (version 3.5)? Thanks. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220638 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On Tuesday 11 October 2005 10:46, wolf2k5 wrote: Does anyone know when Macromedia is going to release the updated The beta just finished, so 'soon'. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220640 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On 10/11/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macromedia will not be releasing them per say - they belong to DataDirect; Incorrect. Macromedia licenses the drivers from DataDirect and, as such, had a set of drivers (3.5+) delivered to them for a hotfix release for ColdFusion MX. They don't just take the drivers and push them through their site -- they Macromedia-ize them to make sure licensing checks and the like are performed. Stephen Dupre has been heading a small beta program to make sure the drivers are acceptable, and Macromedia *will* be releasing their Macromedia-ized version in the near future. Regards, Dave. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220667 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
Yeah, sorry that is what I meant..you have to wait until a hotfix to get em... (from DataDirect via MM) -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2005 15:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA? On 10/11/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macromedia will not be releasing them per say - they belong to DataDirect; Incorrect. Macromedia licenses the drivers from DataDirect and, as such, had a set of drivers (3.5+) delivered to them for a hotfix release for ColdFusion MX. They don't just take the drivers and push them through their site -- they Macromedia-ize them to make sure licensing checks and the like are performed. Stephen Dupre has been heading a small beta program to make sure the drivers are acceptable, and Macromedia *will* be releasing their Macromedia-ized version in the near future. Regards, Dave. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220690 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
You could, of course, purchase them directly from datadirect, then make a custom JDBC connection in your cf admin (it's not as hard as it sounds). It won't be macromedia-ized, but it should work perfectly fine. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 10/11/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, sorry that is what I meant..you have to wait until a hotfix to get em... (from DataDirect via MM) -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 October 2005 15:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA? On 10/11/05, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macromedia will not be releasing them per say - they belong to DataDirect; Incorrect. Macromedia licenses the drivers from DataDirect and, as such, had a set of drivers (3.5+) delivered to them for a hotfix release for ColdFusion MX. They don't just take the drivers and push them through their site -- they Macromedia-ize them to make sure licensing checks and the like are performed. Stephen Dupre has been heading a small beta program to make sure the drivers are acceptable, and Macromedia *will* be releasing their Macromedia-ized version in the near future. Regards, Dave. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220726 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
You could, of course, purchase them directly from datadirect, then make a custom JDBC connection in your cf admin (it's not as hard as it sounds). It won't be macromedia-ized, but it should work perfectly fine. They're about $4K, though. We had one client who did that, a while back, because they couldn't wait for updated drivers from Macromedia. I thought it was a bit hasty at the time. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220729 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On 10/11/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Stephen Dupre has been heading a small beta program to make sure the drivers are acceptable, and Macromedia *will* be releasing their Macromedia-ized version in the near future. I'd like to know how near is this future! :-) Is this week a good guess? We need them asap ... Thanks. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220759 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
On 10/11/05, wolf2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/11/05, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Stephen Dupre has been heading a small beta program to make sure the drivers are acceptable, and Macromedia *will* be releasing their Macromedia-ized version in the near future. I'd like to know how near is this future! :-) Is this week a good guess? We need them asap ... Stephen's been very open about getting in touch with him directly to get in on the beta. I'm sure dropping him an e-mail will get you a solution quicker. I honestly have no idea when they will be released publicly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Dave. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220764 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion DataDirect JDBC drivers 3.5 ETA?
Maybe you shouldn't have rushed into 10g r2 eh? -Adam On 10/11/05, wolf2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know how near is this future! :-) Is this week a good guess? We need them asap ... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:220766 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
