RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
The AdminAPI did exist in 6.1 - they just didn't tell anyone about it, hence it was unsupported (and no, I don't mean the ServiceFactory), which means backwards compatibility for 7 was never an issue. I don't see any of the admin API CFCs on a CF 6.1 server. Where are they? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310856 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
If a case does not demand creating some datasource on the fly, would I not have opted for the easily available admin API for that? I'm not sure I understand the question. But if a case doesn't demand creating a datasource on the fly, you could presumably just do it manually within the CF Administrator. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310863 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
cfide.administrator.components I don't have CFMX6.1 installed any more so I can't confirm what's in there exactly, but I know that administrator.cfc and datasource.cfc certainly exist. I blogged about it ... yikes, 4 years ago. http://tinyurl.com/6bzy6 Andy 2008/8/12 Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The AdminAPI did exist in 6.1 - they just didn't tell anyone about it, hence it was unsupported (and no, I don't mean the ServiceFactory), which means backwards compatibility for 7 was never an issue. I don't see any of the admin API CFCs on a CF 6.1 server. Where are they? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310895 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
cfide.administrator.components I don't have CFMX6.1 installed any more so I can't confirm what's in there exactly, but I know that administrator.cfc and datasource.cfc certainly exist. Good catch! I wasn't aware of that. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310899 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Andy, beautiful, thank you. For anyone else who might also be interested in it, look for Nasir Ghaznavi's comment as well. One more, getDatasource method does not seem to be available any more. Andy Allan -- cf8 ds cfide.administrator.components I don't have CFMX6.1 installed any more so I can't confirm what's in there exactly, but I know that administrator.cfc and datasource.cfc certainly exist. I blogged about it ... yikes, 4 years ago. http://tinyurl.com/6bzy6 Andy Andy Allan -- cf8 ds ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310902 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
The main differences between the CF7 and CF8 silent installs are the properties for things such as LCDS and the .NET bridge. CF7 http://www.adobe.com/go/87bd20f4 CF8 http://www.adobe.com/go/kb402572 The one omission that both have is the property for installing the Report Builder. SILENT_INSTALL_REPORTBUILDER=true|false Andy 2008/8/10 Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems to me that ColdFusion8 may be installed siliently. Digging its doc is inclusive, so, I have two questions here. A) Have you ever installed cf8 siliently (be it Windows or Unix)? B) If yes, how does the cf8 installer properties file differ from that of cf7? (I have the complete cf7 installer properties file) Thank you. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310660 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Thank you, Andy, I initially did not find the link about cf8 silient installation. The missing attribute may also imply that some of these attributes are optional... ColdFusion8 silent installation - Andy Allan The main differences between the CF7 and CF8 silent installs are the properties for things such as LCDS and the .NET bridge. CF7 http://www.adobe.com/go/87bd20f4 CF8 http://www.adobe.com/go/kb402572 The one omission that both have is the property for installing the Report Builder. SILENT_INSTALL_REPORTBUILDER=true|false Andy ColdFusion8 silent installation - Andy Allan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310755 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Sure. But there's a reason to add a cf8 datasource without using the admin API. ColdFusion8 silent installation - Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software Thanks, Dave. Another question, it looks like one may also be able to create a cf8 data source dynamically, and the neo-datasource.xml file seems to be the first 'crack' or a better way to do it? I would prefer to use the admin API to do this, I think. ColdFusion8 silent installation - Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310756 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Sure. But there's a reason to add a cf8 datasource without using the admin API. What is that reason? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310761 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Yeah, I dunno why Google hasn't picked up on the CF8 link yet. It was one of the support guys that pointed it to me when I was hassling them :) A lot of the attributes are optional. For example, if you don't include the Report Builder one, then the Report Builder will be installed by default. Andy 2008/8/11 Don L [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thank you, Andy, I initially did not find the link about cf8 silient installation. The missing attribute may also imply that some of these attributes are optional... ColdFusion8 silent installation - Andy Allan The main differences between the CF7 and CF8 silent installs are the properties for things such as LCDS and the .NET bridge. CF7 http://www.adobe.com/go/87bd20f4 CF8 http://www.adobe.com/go/kb402572 The one omission that both have is the property for installing the Report Builder. SILENT_INSTALL_REPORTBUILDER=true|false Andy ColdFusion8 silent installation - Andy Allan ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310763 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Prefer not to post to the public. Sure. But there's a reason to add a cf8 datasource without using the admin API. What is that reason? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310764 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Prefer not to post to the public. Then I can't really address why the admin API would/wouldn't be sufficient for your use. It's worth noting that the admin API is an approved API, while there are no guarantees about how the neo-*.xml files will work in the future. Code that read these files in CF7 doesn't necessarily work in CF8, for example, since data sources are now stored in neo-datasource.xml, but were previously stored in neo-query.xml. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310777 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Appreciate your thought though, Dave. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software Then I can't really address why the admin API would/wouldn't be sufficient for your use. It's worth noting that the admin API is an approved API, while there are no guarantees about how the neo-*.xml files will work in the future. Code that read these files in CF7 doesn't necessarily work in CF8, for example, since data sources are now stored in neo-datasource.xml, but were previously stored in neo-query.xml. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software, http://www.figleaf.com/ ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310781 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Didn't the datasource admin API change between CF6 and CF7 without backward compatibility? I seem to recall having to update several automated deployment systems that broke upon upgrade. -Justin Scott --- Original Message --- From: Dave Watts[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 8/11/2008 5:46:33 PM To : cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Cc : Subject : RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation Prefer not to post to the public. Then I can't really address why the admin API would/wouldn't be sufficient for your use. It's worth noting that the admin API is an approved API, while there are no guarantees about how the neo-*.xml files will work in the future. Code that read these files in CF7 doesn't necessarily work in CF8, for example, since data sources are now stored in neo-datasource.xml, but were previously stored in neo-query.xml. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310784 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Didn't the datasource admin API change between CF6 and CF7 without backward compatibility? I seem to recall having to update several automated deployment systems that broke upon upgrade. The admin API was introduced in CF7. Previous, unsupported functionality using ServiceFactory may well have changed between versions, but that's just another example of why you'd want to use the admin API instead of unsupported functionality. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310785 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
The admin API was introduced in CF7. Previous, unsupported functionality using ServiceFactory may well have changed between versions, but that's just another example of why you'd want to use the admin API instead of unsupported functionality. Ah, that is probably what was in use then. I didn't write the original code, just had to update everything when it broke so I wasn't sure. -Justin Scott ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310786 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
but that's just another example of why you'd want to use the admin API instead of unsupported functionality. If a case does not demand creating some datasource on the fly, would I not have opted for the easily available admin API for that? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310827 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
The AdminAPI did exist in 6.1 - they just didn't tell anyone about it, hence it was unsupported (and no, I don't mean the ServiceFactory), which means backwards compatibility for 7 was never an issue. Andy 2008/8/12 Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Didn't the datasource admin API change between CF6 and CF7 without backward compatibility? I seem to recall having to update several automated deployment systems that broke upon upgrade. The admin API was introduced in CF7. Previous, unsupported functionality using ServiceFactory may well have changed between versions, but that's just another example of why you'd want to use the admin API instead of unsupported functionality. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310836 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
ColdFusion8 silent installation
It seems to me that ColdFusion8 may be installed siliently. Digging its doc is inclusive, so, I have two questions here. A) Have you ever installed cf8 siliently (be it Windows or Unix)? B) If yes, how does the cf8 installer properties file differ from that of cf7? (I have the complete cf7 installer properties file) Thank you. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310643 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
A) Have you ever installed cf8 siliently (be it Windows or Unix)? Yes, on Windows. B) If yes, how does the cf8 installer properties file differ from that of cf7? I haven't noticed any differences. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310646 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: ColdFusion8 silent installation
A) Have you ever installed cf8 siliently (be it Windows or Unix)? Yes, on Windows. Thanks, Dave. Another question, it looks like one may also be able to create a cf8 data source dynamically, and the neo-datasource.xml file seems to be the first 'crack' or a better way to do it? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310647 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: ColdFusion8 silent installation
Thanks, Dave. Another question, it looks like one may also be able to create a cf8 data source dynamically, and the neo-datasource.xml file seems to be the first 'crack' or a better way to do it? I would prefer to use the admin API to do this, I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:310654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
