RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-08-05 Thread Dave Watts
I'm going through old emails I hadn't read, sorry it's taken so long to
respond.

 All of my CF development has used data sources that have been 
 on the same local network as the CF Server. In an upcoming project,
 I'll be connecting to a SQL server from CF by it's IP address via 
 VPN over the Internet.
 
 I'm curious to hear from others who have done this if there have 
 been any issues with dropped connections, poor performance or other 
 difficulties from within CF.

This can certainly cause poor performance. First, remote connections are
typically much slower than connections across the LAN. Much, much slower.
This might not be an issue for you, depending on the amount of traffic you
have, the amount of caching you can do, etc, but I can certainly say that
I've seen cases where this has been a performance killer. Second, the VPN
will probably impose some overhead as well.

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RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-08-05 Thread Dave Watts
I'm going through old emails I hadn't read, sorry it's taken so long to
respond.

 On this same topic, is there any reason to use a VPN as opposed 
 to just restricting access to a single IP? I think we plan to 
 access our SQL server remotely by allowing external traffic 
 only to our webserver's IP address. We're just getting this 
 set up and I don't want to second guess our IT guy but... is 
 it a bad idea to do it this way?

There are security issues involved in allowing unencrypted traffic across
public networks. If you don't have any sensitive data, this might be
acceptable, but any machine on any network segment between your web server
and your database server may be able to read your database traffic,
including the logins themselves.

There are all sorts of ways you can implement point-to-point encryption,
though. If both machines are running Windows, you might set up an IPsec
tunnel, which is pretty easy to do.

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Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-03-21 Thread Alex Sherwood
All of my CF development has used data sources that have been on the 
same local network as the CF Server. In an upcoming project, I'll be 
connecting to a SQL server from CF by it's IP address via VPN over the 
Internet.

I'm curious to hear from others who have done this if there have been 
any issues with dropped connections, poor performance or other 
difficulties from within CF.

Any heads up tips would be a huge help. Thanks Much.

--
Alex Sherwood


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Re: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-03-21 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
I do it all the time (remote  VPN).  Just enter the IP address (or
server name), port, and any other connection information as you would
on a local database.

Pete


On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:34:40 -0500, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All of my CF development has used data sources that have been on the
 same local network as the CF Server. In an upcoming project, I'll be
 connecting to a SQL server from CF by it's IP address via VPN over the
 Internet.
 
 I'm curious to hear from others who have done this if there have been
 any issues with dropped connections, poor performance or other
 difficulties from within CF.
 
 Any heads up tips would be a huge help. Thanks Much.
 
 --
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RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-03-21 Thread Connie DeCinko
I do it all the time and it works great.  Just have to remember to connect
to the VPN before you start otherwise you have to wait for the connection to
timeout and try again.
 

-Original Message-
From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

All of my CF development has used data sources that have been on the 
same local network as the CF Server. In an upcoming project, I'll be 
connecting to a SQL server from CF by it's IP address via VPN over the 
Internet.

I'm curious to hear from others who have done this if there have been 
any issues with dropped connections, poor performance or other 
difficulties from within CF.

Any heads up tips would be a huge help. Thanks Much.

--
Alex Sherwood




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RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-03-21 Thread Paul
On this same topic, is there any reason to use a VPN as opposed to just
restricting access to a single IP?  I think we plan to access our SQL server
remotely by allowing external traffic only to our webserver's IP address.
We're just getting this set up and I don't want to second guess our IT guy
but... is it a bad idea to do it this way?

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

I do it all the time and it works great.  Just have to remember to connect
to the VPN before you start otherwise you have to wait for the connection to
timeout and try again.
 

-Original Message-
From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

All of my CF development has used data sources that have been on the 
same local network as the CF Server. In an upcoming project, I'll be 
connecting to a SQL server from CF by it's IP address via VPN over the 
Internet.

I'm curious to hear from others who have done this if there have been 
any issues with dropped connections, poor performance or other 
difficulties from within CF.

Any heads up tips would be a huge help. Thanks Much.

--
Alex Sherwood






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RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

2005-03-21 Thread John Munyan
I would think so, since if the data isn't encrypted, though others couldn't 
access the server the data would be easily read on the wire...and if it is of a 
sensitive nature even worse.
 
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From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 3/21/2005 12:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?



On this same topic, is there any reason to use a VPN as opposed to just
restricting access to a single IP?  I think we plan to access our SQL server
remotely by allowing external traffic only to our webserver's IP address.
We're just getting this set up and I don't want to second guess our IT guy
but... is it a bad idea to do it this way?

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

I do it all the time and it works great.  Just have to remember to connect
to the VPN before you start otherwise you have to wait for the connection to
timeout and try again.


-Original Message-
From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 11:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Connecting to SQL from CF across the 'Net?

All of my CF development has used data sources that have been on the
same local network as the CF Server. In an upcoming project, I'll be
connecting to a SQL server from CF by it's IP address via VPN over the
Internet.

I'm curious to hear from others who have done this if there have been
any issues with dropped connections, poor performance or other
difficulties from within CF.

Any heads up tips would be a huge help. Thanks Much.

--
Alex Sherwood








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