RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
Damn right I would, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Microsoft, its software and its business practices. being a Machiavellian myself of course :-) -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 October 2002 00:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? Then why run your business on it? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Micro$oft has to stop this s*it... It's getting silly as can be... In the last week we have had to install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this... These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the annoyance list.. It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold... Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take it to the dealer to be serviced... What would you do with that car? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
They probably should stop concentrating on stuff like Bcentral and their new Accounting ( Microsoft Great Plains ) solutions, and program a better patch for their updates. I guess being in every single niche has it's advantages - you don't care really how many customers are pissed at you - there's always a plethora more. Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote: Damn right I would, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Microsoft, its software and its business practices. being a Machiavellian myself of course :-) -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: 04 October 2002 00:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? Then why run your business on it? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Micro$oft has to stop this s*it... It's getting silly as can be... In the last week we have had to install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this... These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the annoyance list.. It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold... Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take it to the dealer to be serviced... What would you do with that car? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secu rity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
blah blah blah, so are you saying that other software manufacturers software is perfect? :-p -Original Message- From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 October 2002 12:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 They probably should stop concentrating on stuff like Bcentral and their new Accounting ( Microsoft Great Plains ) solutions, and program a better patch for their updates. I guess being in every single niche has it's advantages - you don't care really how many customers are pissed at you - there's always a plethora more. Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) wrote: Damn right I would, I have nothing but the utmost respect for Microsoft, its software and its business practices. being a Machiavellian myself of course :-) -Original Message- From: Rob Rohan [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: 04 October 2002 00:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? Then why run your business on it? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Micro$oft has to stop this s*it... It's getting silly as can be... In the last week we have had to install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this... These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the annoyance list.. It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold... Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take it to the dealer to be serviced... What would you do with that car? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/secu rity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? No, probably not. On the other hand, I wouldn't feel too comfortable flying the build-your-own-airplane kit from that Linus guy, either. Nor would I want to fly Sun or Oracle, but that's OK, since I wouldn't be able to afford the ticket. Sad to say, I'd probably end up flying the damn Mac - at least the furnishings are nice. To flip this on its head, I probably wouldn't use a GM or Ford computer or OS, either - it would require huge amounts of gasoline, I'm sure, and would have the best technology of 1987. My point here is that your comment, while it may be glib and entertaining, is a facile and useless comparison. Then why run your business on it? I'd hardly argue that Microsoft products are perfect, or even best-of-breed in most cases. However, they often provide a happy medium of comparative value. In any case, though, I suspect that most people on this list have little choice about what products their companies or clients use. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Subject: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? No, probably not. On the other hand, I wouldn't feel too comfortable flying the build-your-own-airplane kit from that Linus guy, either. Nor would I want to fly Sun or Oracle, but that's OK, since I wouldn't be able to afford the ticket. Sad to say, I'd probably end up flying the damn Mac - at least the furnishings are nice. I'd only fly Mac Airlines after the OS upgrade. On older models, if someone unhooks their seatbelt while the fasten seatbelt sign is, the plane quacks at you, seizes up completely, and falls from the sky. 8^) -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
OT: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
No, probably not. On the other hand, I wouldn't feel too comfortable flying the build-your-own-airplane kit from that Linus guy, either. Build-your-own-airplane? That's an odd analogy. Have access to the engine and all the working parts of the airplane I think is better analogy. Nor would I want to fly Sun or Oracle, but that's OK, since I wouldn't be able to afford the ticket. Sun and Oracle make rather solid products. I would feel much more comfortable flying in a Sun airplane then a Microsoft airplane. Plus, since Microsoft makes operating systems, keyboards, mice, game stations, office software, and games - they are more likely to enter the airplane arena. Who could afford the ticket? Try being a common developer (CTO). :) I'd hardly argue that Microsoft products are perfect, or even best-of-breed in most cases. However, they often provide a happy medium of comparative value. XP upgrade = $160.00 Red Hat 8.0 = Free Yeah, I can totally see the return on investment. I suspect that most people on this list have little choice about what products their companies or clients use. No doubt there. If that were the case, we probably would be in such financial trouble. It was just a joke anyway. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 6:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? No, probably not. On the other hand, I wouldn't feel too comfortable flying the build-your-own-airplane kit from that Linus guy, either. Nor would I want to fly Sun or Oracle, but that's OK, since I wouldn't be able to afford the ticket. Sad to say, I'd probably end up flying the damn Mac - at least the furnishings are nice. To flip this on its head, I probably wouldn't use a GM or Ford computer or OS, either - it would require huge amounts of gasoline, I'm sure, and would have the best technology of 1987. My point here is that your comment, while it may be glib and entertaining, is a facile and useless comparison. Then why run your business on it? I'd hardly argue that Microsoft products are perfect, or even best-of-breed in most cases. However, they often provide a happy medium of comparative value. In any case, though, I suspect that most people on this list have little choice about what products their companies or clients use. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
Micro$oft has to stop this s*it... It's getting silly as can be... In the last week we have had to install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this... These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the annoyance list.. It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold... Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take it to the dealer to be serviced... What would you do with that car? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? Then why run your business on it? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Micro$oft has to stop this s*it... It's getting silly as can be... In the last week we have had to install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this... These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the annoyance list.. It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold... Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take it to the dealer to be serviced... What would you do with that car? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
Rob Rohan wrote: If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? If I could fly in a fail-over cluster :) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
:) -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Rob Rohan wrote: If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? If I could fly in a fail-over cluster :) Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000
Classic! sr.. - Original Message - From: Rob Rohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:37 AM Subject: RE: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 If Microsoft made an airplane would you fly in it? Then why run your business on it? -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Micro$oft has to stop this s*it... It's getting silly as can be... In the last week we have had to install about 4-6 OS issued patches it seems and now this... These big long winded follow 652 step type ones are at the top of the annoyance list.. It's almost like they are daring us all to flee their stranglehold... Just imagine if this were your car and every day almost you had to take it to the dealer to be serviced... What would you do with that car? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Zac Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 16:42:25 +0200 Subject: Cumulative Patch for SQL Server (Q316333) Crtical for 2000 Microsoft Security Bulletin MS02-056 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/s ecurity/bulletin/MS02-056.asp have fun, yet another crappy m$ patch from with no installer and 2 pages of instructions and it's rated critical for all internet instances z ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
