Re: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Eric Dawson

Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the source code 
of the site?

ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but am forced to 
code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll zip up all 
the files and email it to you.

Eric


From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500

The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very interesting.

Cheers,
Jamie

--
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Programmer
SolutionMasters, Inc.
9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
Charlotte, NC  28270
www.solutionmasters.com
704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
704.849.9291  Fax
-Original Message-
From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org


 Pardon,
 
 do you mean this web site or my message???
 
 Regards
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  *ROFL*
 
  That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
 
  --
  Jamie Keane
  Programmer
  SolutionMasters, Inc.
  9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
  Charlotte, NC  28270
  www.solutionmasters.com
  704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
  704.849.9291  Fax
  -Original Message-
  From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it is possible
to
  get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
  Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   Hello all,
  
   I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
  noticed
   that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
answer
  to
   my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within 
one
  large
   parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
 navigation
   and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
  
   E
  
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Jeremy Allen

That is a pretty narrow point of view :)

Think of it this way.

You are a company which has invested great amounts
of time to create a really awesome site that generates
millions of dollars every month.

The code is the companies intellectual property and its
kind of suicidal for a business to just hand out their
intellectual property and say "here you go why dont
you set up a competative site using our code!!"

The code can represent a culmination of hundreds if
not thousands of man hours which can just be taken by
appending +.htr to a URL. Not Cool.

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug


Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the source code
of the site?

ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but am
forced to
code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll
zip up all
the files and email it to you.

Eric


From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500

The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very interesting.

Cheers,
Jamie

--
Jamie Keane
Programmer
SolutionMasters, Inc.
9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
Charlotte, NC  28270
www.solutionmasters.com
704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
704.849.9291  Fax
-Original Message-
From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org


 Pardon,
 
 do you mean this web site or my message???
 
 Regards
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  *ROFL*
 
  That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
 
  --
  Jamie Keane
  Programmer
  SolutionMasters, Inc.
  9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
  Charlotte, NC  28270
  www.solutionmasters.com
  704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
  704.849.9291  Fax
  -Original Message-
  From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it is possible
to
  get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
  Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   Hello all,
  
   I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
  noticed
   that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
answer
  to
   my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within
one
  large
   parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
 navigation
   and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
  
   E
  
  
  
  
 
 

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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Nick Betts

As the database name and table names are exposed, in essence a hacker could
delete data from the databasewhich is not good

Nick Betts
www.poulternet.com


-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 December 2000 16:15
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug


Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the source code 
of the site?

ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but am forced to

code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll zip up all 
the files and email it to you.

Eric


From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500

The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very interesting.

Cheers,
Jamie

--
Jamie Keane
Programmer
SolutionMasters, Inc.
9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
Charlotte, NC  28270
www.solutionmasters.com
704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
704.849.9291  Fax
-Original Message-
From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org


 Pardon,
 
 do you mean this web site or my message???
 
 Regards
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  *ROFL*
 
  That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
 
  --
  Jamie Keane
  Programmer
  SolutionMasters, Inc.
  9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
  Charlotte, NC  28270
  www.solutionmasters.com
  704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
  704.849.9291  Fax
  -Original Message-
  From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it is possible
to
  get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
  Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   Hello all,
  
   I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
  noticed
   that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
answer
  to
   my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within 
one
  large
   parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
 navigation
   and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
  
   E
  
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Todd Ashworth

Well .. the main danger is that someone can find a way to compromise your
site's security.  Someone could get the user/pass for your database, find
your directory structure, view all the intricate details of your forms and
use that information to write their own forms to exploit your action pages
somehow .. just bad stuff in general .. Think about it.

Todd Ashworth

- Original Message -
From: "Eric Dawson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug


| Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the source code
| of the site?
|
| ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but am forced
to
| code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll zip up
all
| the files and email it to you.
|
| Eric



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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread ron

 Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the
 source code
 of the site?

 ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but
 am forced to
 code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll
 zip up all
 the files and email it to you.

I guess it depends on what you have in your code. Most people would consider
file mappings, db usernames and passwords, and db table and field names
rather *sensitive* information, very useful to a determined hacker.

-ron



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Re: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Jennifer

At 10:14 AM 12/19/00 -0600, you wrote:
Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the source code
of the site?

ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but am forced to
code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll zip up all
the files and email it to you.

Being able to view the source code on the site can be very dangerous, 
especially if it includes any usernames and passwords. Even if it doesn't 
contain usernames and passwords, it can betray other vulnerabilities in the 
site, but if it does have usernames and passwords to the database, all the 
data is compromised. Or in other words, I hope you aren't storing credit 
card numbers. Even encrypted credit card numbers can be vulnerable if your 
source is vulnerable-- cause that's where the encryption scheme is.

If *we* want to see your source, we'll ask, but more malicious types will 
look for common problems like the +.htr bug.

I actually had a nightmare about a similar hack last night. 

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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Gary McNeel, Jr.

Absolutely there is a danger. Just off the top of my head I can think of a
few. These may not be best practice but:

1. If you put the username and password in a CFQUERY they can see that (and
anything else).
2. If you just hard code a password or IP range to be blocked, or other
information that should not be seen.
3. If you have a client you do work for THEY have copyright to the code.
They paid for it, it is theirs.
4. Any CF comments become visible. You may be explaining a business process
and it gets read by someone who does not need to know about it.

Because you may have a bunch of people coding, you cannot anticipate what
may or may not be put in the code.

-Gary

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug


 Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the
 source code
 of the site?

 ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but
 am forced to
 code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll
 zip up all
 the files and email it to you.

 Eric


 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500

 The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very
 interesting.

 Cheers,
 Jamie

 --
 Jamie Keane
 Programmer
 SolutionMasters, Inc.
 9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
 Charlotte, NC  28270
 www.solutionmasters.com
 704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
 704.849.9291  Fax
 -Original Message-
 From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org


  Pardon,
  
  do you mean this web site or my message???
  
  Regards
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   *ROFL*
  
   That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
  
   --
   Jamie Keane
   Programmer
   SolutionMasters, Inc.
   9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
   Charlotte, NC  28270
   www.solutionmasters.com
   704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
   704.849.9291  Fax
   -Original Message-
   From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
   Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it
 is possible
 to
   get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
   Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
   
   
Hello all,
   
I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
   noticed
that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
 answer
   to
my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within
 one
   large
parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
  navigation
and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
   
E
   
   
   
   
  
  

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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Jeremy Allen

While site security is an important issue with the +.htr
bugs or anything that expose your source code I want to
point out a few things.

NEVER put the username and password in your templates!

Always write your queries so that a new query cant be passed
via a URL and do what they want, that should NOT be possible.

A proper encryption scheme for credit cards will render
encrypted CC data totally useless. Encrypt with your
public key, key the private key is completely offline or
at least internal network only. As many people have
suggested to me, just plain dont store the CC, but if
its a must it can be done with a good degree of security.

In my mind as I have previously expressed the largest
danger is the exposure of your intellectual property
and everything that goes with that.

Assuming you are properly coding your CF data modification
via Raw queries should not be possible. If someone just
happens to find one little omission and they wreak havoc on
your DB and render your site useless, backups can cure that
situation quite easily. What you cant fix is the fact that
someone now has their own copies of your code. You cant just
undo that from someones memory. All of these other issues
are peripherial to good programming practice and good business
practice.

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.



-Original Message-
From: Gary McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Danger of the +.htr bug


Absolutely there is a danger. Just off the top of my head I can think of a
few. These may not be best practice but:

1. If you put the username and password in a CFQUERY they can see that (and
anything else).
2. If you just hard code a password or IP range to be blocked, or other
information that should not be seen.
3. If you have a client you do work for THEY have copyright to the code.
They paid for it, it is theirs.
4. Any CF comments become visible. You may be explaining a business process
and it gets read by someone who does not need to know about it.

Because you may have a bunch of people coding, you cannot anticipate what
may or may not be put in the code.

-Gary

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug


 Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the
 source code
 of the site?

 ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but
 am forced to
 code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll
 zip up all
 the files and email it to you.

 Eric


 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500

 The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very
 interesting.

 Cheers,
 Jamie

 --
 Jamie Keane
 Programmer
 SolutionMasters, Inc.
 9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
 Charlotte, NC  28270
 www.solutionmasters.com
 704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
 704.849.9291  Fax
 -Original Message-
 From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org


  Pardon,
  
  do you mean this web site or my message???
  
  Regards
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   *ROFL*
  
   That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
  
   --
   Jamie Keane
   Programmer
   SolutionMasters, Inc.
   9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
   Charlotte, NC  28270
   www.solutionmasters.com
   704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
   704.849.9291  Fax
   -Original Message-
   From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
   Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it
 is possible
 to
   get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
   Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
   
   
Hello all,
   
I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
   noticed
that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
 answer
   to
my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within
 one
   large
parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
  navigation
and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
   
E
   
   
   
   
  
  


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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Larry Juncker

I was unaware of this particular bug until today.  How can one prevent this
bug from being used on their own code?

Thanks in Advance

Larry Juncker
Senior Cold Fusion Developer
Heartland Communications Group, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Gary McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Danger of the +.htr bug


Absolutely there is a danger. Just off the top of my head I can think of a
few. These may not be best practice but:

1. If you put the username and password in a CFQUERY they can see that (and
anything else).
2. If you just hard code a password or IP range to be blocked, or other
information that should not be seen.
3. If you have a client you do work for THEY have copyright to the code.
They paid for it, it is theirs.
4. Any CF comments become visible. You may be explaining a business process
and it gets read by someone who does not need to know about it.

Because you may have a bunch of people coding, you cannot anticipate what
may or may not be put in the code.

-Gary

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 10:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug


 Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the
 source code
 of the site?

 ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but
 am forced to
 code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll
 zip up all
 the files and email it to you.

 Eric


 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500

 The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very
 interesting.

 Cheers,
 Jamie

 --
 Jamie Keane
 Programmer
 SolutionMasters, Inc.
 9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
 Charlotte, NC  28270
 www.solutionmasters.com
 704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
 704.849.9291  Fax
 -Original Message-
 From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org


  Pardon,
  
  do you mean this web site or my message???
  
  Regards
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   *ROFL*
  
   That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
  
   --
   Jamie Keane
   Programmer
   SolutionMasters, Inc.
   9111 Monroe Rd., Suite 100
   Charlotte, NC  28270
   www.solutionmasters.com
   704.563.5559 x 228  Voice
   704.849.9291  Fax
   -Original Message-
   From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
   Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it
 is possible
 to
   get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
   Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
   
   
Hello all,
   
I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
   noticed
that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
 answer
   to
my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within
 one
   large
parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
  navigation
and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
   
E
   
   
   
   
  
  

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Re: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Larry C. Lyons

Larry,

Here's the URL for the patch:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Security/Bulletin/ms00-044.asp 

However M$ does say the following about this patch:

The patch should only be installed by customers who have a
business-critical need for the .HTR functionality. Microsoft recommends
that all other customers disable the .HTR functionality altogether, as
discussed in the FAQ. 

hth,
larry

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 I was unaware of this particular bug until today.  How can one prevent this
 bug from being used on their own code?
 
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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Jennifer

At 12:04 PM 12/19/00 -0600, you wrote:
I was unaware of this particular bug until today.  How can one prevent this
bug from being used on their own code?

This is an IIS bug, if I remember correctly. The bug is in the server, not 
your code. Check to see if your servers have the bug and if they do, get on 
the network administrator's case about it.


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RE: Danger of the +.htr bug

2000-12-19 Thread Eric Dawson

I was poking fun at myself. I develop 100% open source, but my code isn't 
worth much heh heh.

As an aside I realized that I do do some things good. ie most of my 
programming is not accessible under the web root. ie I make a cfmodule call 
to a place somewhere not accessible by a browser.

half by design, half by accident.

sitedir\www\
sitedir\_applications (fuseobjects)
sitedir\_content (static include files)

Please don't crash my site.
Eric

From: "Jeremy Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Danger of the +.htr bug
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 11:28:27 -0500

That is a pretty narrow point of view :)

Think of it this way.

You are a company which has invested great amounts
of time to create a really awesome site that generates
millions of dollars every month.

The code is the companies intellectual property and its
kind of suicidal for a business to just hand out their
intellectual property and say "here you go why dont
you set up a competative site using our code!!"

The code can represent a culmination of hundreds if
not thousands of man hours which can just be taken by
appending +.htr to a URL. Not Cool.

Jeremy Allen
elliptIQ Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:15 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Danger of the +.htr bug
 
 
 Is there any danger to the +.htr beyond being able to view the source code
 of the site?
 
 ie if you want my source code ... 1.) Why? I don't want it, but am
 forced to
 code it, and 2.) It might be easier to ask me for it, cause I'll
 zip up all
 the files and email it to you.
 
 Eric
 
 
 From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:57:29 -0500
 
 The fact that they don't have the +.htr bug patched.  Very 
interesting.
 
 Cheers,
 Jamie
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
 
 
  Pardon,
  
  do you mean this web site or my message???
  
  Regards
  
  
  - Original Message -
  From: "Jamie Keane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:20 AM
  Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   *ROFL*
  
   That's the funniest thing I've seen this month!
  
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   -Original Message-
   From: Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 4:54 PM
   Subject: Re: Cool CF site - webos.org
  
  
   And what is cool on this site? I found only one thing - it is 
possible
 to
   get all source code from this URL. It is not cool.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: "Eric Fickes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:00 AM
   Subject: Cool CF site - webos.org
   
   
Hello all,
   
I was wondering if any of you have seen/used www.webos.org yet?  I
   noticed
that it's using CF, so I was hoping that some of you may have an
 answer
   to
my question.  WebOs emulates a desktop, and pops up windows within
 one
   large
parent window.  I would love to do this on my inhouse site for
  navigation
and was wondering if any of you knew how to do this.
   
E
   
   
   
   
  
  
 
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