Re: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-17 Thread Tony
thank you...

however, my bottleneck isnt the file i/o, its the taking of the
query object and inserting the comma's in between each value
and the cr/lf at the end of a row.

thats the problem.  getting the data into a file, is easy and quick.
i see, through my test harness, that my bottleneck is that
darned query object into csv object...

any ideas?
tw

On 5/16/07, Jon Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tony,
>
> Here's a quick tutorial on using BCP with SQL Server 2000 (with links
> to BCP resources on MSDN) to output text files:
>
> http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=4722
>
> If you want to maintain portability between DBMS' by using Coldfusion
> to handle the export workload, Ben Nadel had a good article the other
> day on optimizing that process by using the Java string buffer :
>
> http://www.bennadel.com/blog/679-ColdFusion-Optimizing-Case-Study-
> Writing-Orders-To-A-CSV-File.htm
>
> HTH,
>
> Jon
>
> On May 16, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Tony wrote:
>
> > ok.
> > next question.
> > how in the heeeck do i do it in SQL?
> > im using sql server 2000.
> > i could use sql server 2005.
> >
> > any and ALL HELP is appreciated.
> >
> > thanks
> > tony
> >
> > On 5/16/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Best bet is don't do it in ColdFusion at all, let the SQL engine
> >> do the work
> >> and ref  the resultant file.
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-16 Thread Jon Clausen
Tony,

Here's a quick tutorial on using BCP with SQL Server 2000 (with links  
to BCP resources on MSDN) to output text files:

http://www.sqlteam.com/item.asp?ItemID=4722

If you want to maintain portability between DBMS' by using Coldfusion  
to handle the export workload, Ben Nadel had a good article the other  
day on optimizing that process by using the Java string buffer :

http://www.bennadel.com/blog/679-ColdFusion-Optimizing-Case-Study- 
Writing-Orders-To-A-CSV-File.htm

HTH,

Jon

On May 16, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Tony wrote:

> ok.
> next question.
> how in the heeeck do i do it in SQL?
> im using sql server 2000.
> i could use sql server 2005.
>
> any and ALL HELP is appreciated.
>
> thanks
> tony
>
> On 5/16/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Best bet is don't do it in ColdFusion at all, let the SQL engine  
>> do the work
>> and ref  the resultant file.



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Re: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-16 Thread Wesley Middendorff
whoops, didn't see the other posts. You could create a SQL server
integration services package. This could then be executed from a stored
procedure that your CF code could call. (supposing that CF needs to do
something with the file afterwards).

On 5/16/07, Wesley Middendorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you database server has access to a file system that your CF server
> also has access to, you could try using the export functions built into your
> DB server. I usually try to keep data processing in the DB server since it
> is way more efficient at it.
>
> Wes
>
>
> On 5/16/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > hi there.
> >
> > when dealing with record sets in the 10,000 records plus arena
> > how do you, in the fastest way possible, get that record set into
> > comma delimited format, and subsequently write that out to a file?
> >
> > i have a nice little test bed setup, that i can see very the bottlenecks
> > in doing this.
> >
> > getting the data takes less than 2 seconds
> > taking the data from a query object to a csv formatted object takes too
> > long
> > writing it to a file takes no time at all maybe a second or two
> >
> > and the rest is willy nilly... its just the process of query object to
> > csv formatted
> > object, that is the problem...
> >
> > how/what do you all do?
> >
> > btw, im currently using the UDF (QueryToCsvSpecificRows())
> >
> > thanks!
> > tony
> >
> > --
> > 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty
> > seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'
> >
> > robert deniro - heat (1995)
> >
> > 

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Re: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-16 Thread Wesley Middendorff
If you database server has access to a file system that your CF server also
has access to, you could try using the export functions built into your DB
server. I usually try to keep data processing in the DB server since it is
way more efficient at it.

Wes


On 5/16/07, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> hi there.
>
> when dealing with record sets in the 10,000 records plus arena
> how do you, in the fastest way possible, get that record set into
> comma delimited format, and subsequently write that out to a file?
>
> i have a nice little test bed setup, that i can see very the bottlenecks
> in doing this.
>
> getting the data takes less than 2 seconds
> taking the data from a query object to a csv formatted object takes too
> long
> writing it to a file takes no time at all maybe a second or two
>
> and the rest is willy nilly... its just the process of query object to
> csv formatted
> object, that is the problem...
>
> how/what do you all do?
>
> btw, im currently using the UDF (QueryToCsvSpecificRows())
>
> thanks!
> tony
>
> --
> 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty
> seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'
>
> robert deniro - heat (1995)
>
> 

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Re: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-16 Thread Tony
ok.
next question.
how in the heeeck do i do it in SQL?
im using sql server 2000.
i could use sql server 2005.

any and ALL HELP is appreciated.

thanks
tony

On 5/16/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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> and ref  the resultant file.
>
>
>
>
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> From: Tony
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> Subject: Dealing with Large queries and csv files
>
> hi there.
>
> when dealing with record sets in the 10,000 records plus arena
> how do you, in the fastest way possible, get that record set into
> comma delimited format, and subsequently write that out to a file?
>
> i have a nice little test bed setup, that i can see very the bottlenecks
> in doing this.
>
> getting the data takes less than 2 seconds
> taking the data from a query object to a csv formatted object takes too long
> writing it to a file takes no time at all maybe a second or two
>
> and the rest is willy nilly... its just the process of query object to
> csv formatted
> object, that is the problem...
>
> how/what do you all do?
>
> btw, im currently using the UDF (QueryToCsvSpecificRows())
>
> thanks!
> tony
>
> --
> 'Never have anything in your life that you can't walk out on in thirty
> seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'
>
> robert deniro - heat (1995)
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-16 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Best bet is don't do it in ColdFusion at all, let the SQL engine do the work
and ref  the resultant file.





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From: Tony
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Sent: Wed May 16 20:27:50 2007
Subject: Dealing with Large queries and csv files

hi there.

when dealing with record sets in the 10,000 records plus arena
how do you, in the fastest way possible, get that record set into
comma delimited format, and subsequently write that out to a file?

i have a nice little test bed setup, that i can see very the bottlenecks
in doing this.

getting the data takes less than 2 seconds
taking the data from a query object to a csv formatted object takes too long
writing it to a file takes no time at all maybe a second or two

and the rest is willy nilly... its just the process of query object to
csv formatted
object, that is the problem...

how/what do you all do?

btw, im currently using the UDF (QueryToCsvSpecificRows())

thanks!
tony

-- 
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seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'

robert deniro - heat (1995)



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Dealing with Large queries and csv files

2007-05-16 Thread Tony
hi there.

when dealing with record sets in the 10,000 records plus arena
how do you, in the fastest way possible, get that record set into
comma delimited format, and subsequently write that out to a file?

i have a nice little test bed setup, that i can see very the bottlenecks
in doing this.

getting the data takes less than 2 seconds
taking the data from a query object to a csv formatted object takes too long
writing it to a file takes no time at all maybe a second or two

and the rest is willy nilly... its just the process of query object to
csv formatted
object, that is the problem...

how/what do you all do?

btw, im currently using the UDF (QueryToCsvSpecificRows())

thanks!
tony

-- 
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seconds flat, if you spot the heat coming around the corner'

robert deniro - heat (1995)

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