RE: detecting mobile devices
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, Jonah; it was past my bedtime here on the East Coast of the US. :o) Anyway, really haven't given any thought to desktops with touch interfaces. That's something I'll have to add into the mix, however. It was once the software (browsers) that web designers/developers had to wrestle with mostly, now it seems that the hardware has become as much, if not more of a challenge. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:13 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices Out of curiosity, how are you accounting for desktops with touch interfaces? cheers, Judah On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote: All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible layouts and media queries. However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further by serving up the appropriate stuff. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: detecting mobile devices
That's been a big challenge to my typical approach to interface design when incorporating mobile touch devices: lack of hover. I recently began to redesign one of my customers' desktop site (while I'm still working on the transition and pros and cons to responsive web design and its impact on my income stream... :o) and the main menu was designed around a full-width menu dropdown menu panel. Once the panel dropped down after a click on the main menu item, a user could hover over various selections and see a brief description of the content they would encounter if they clicked the submenu option. I realized, fairly late in the development of the menu, that this approach would not work with 10 tablet devices which lacked the ability to hover. So, since this is not currently a responsive design, but separate desktop and mobile sites, I relied on the desktop site to serve the 10 tablet users...not good when your main navigation won't work for them. So, I'm tweaking that menu to only respond to clicks. It's a great limitation on the functionality and effectiveness of the menu design, but necessary. Perhaps we need a form of touch, like long touch, short click or something to imitate hover on touch platforms. I'd had to see hover disappear altogether, and put users in a position to only find out what's behind the curtains without clicking and actually going to another page of content. We lose preview ability with no hover or at least create the need for two clicks, one to see the preview and another to see the content, if we have to rely only on clicking/touching. -Original Message- From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:17 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices I'm not yet. (Don't have any target hardware.) :( I would hope that the same touch events are fired in the desktop versions of the browsers. Otherwise it'd be just mean making sure your app uses click but not hover events. On 6/10/12 9:12 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: Out of curiosity, how are you accounting for desktops with touch interfaces? cheers, Judah On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote: All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible layouts and media queries. However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further by serving up the appropriate stuff. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351538 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Dave Watts wrote: That looks like it's fun to maintain. Fortunately, there aren't ever any new mobile devices. With any luck its not so bad. That code is the CF version supplied by http://detectmobilebrowsers.com.. Last updated Feb 28 according to the site. The CF version can be had in txt form here http://detectmobilebrowsers.com/download/coldfusion A scheduled cfhttp and a few cfifs, followed by a little replace() magic and a conditional cffile write could keep an include with the latest regex in it updated on a given server. I have to sheepishly admit I have been using the same code for my own corporate site. And yes I compounded the sin by being too lazy to write an auto-updater. Looked into WURFL and at the time it didn't seem accessible enough to me for what I wanted to do in the time I had to do it. -- --m@Robertson-- Janitor, The Robertson Team mysecretbase.com ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351543 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
HTTP_USER_AGENT : String ReReplace (UNFINISHED)
My idea is to extract each instance before ; so we can auto detect operating
systems, browser versions, and future devices. This data can be placed in a
table, xml file, etc. Thus, it can be logged, massaged for css/html5,
j-Queried, etc.
I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this.
But it is worth a spin on some ideas. Thanks and CF STILL ROCKS.
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST '(' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString = REReplace(HTTP_USER_AGENT, '\(', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString: #TheString#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST ')' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString2 = REReplace(TheString, '\)', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString2: #TheString2#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE SPACES ' ' WITH ';', CREATING A ; SPACER ---
cfset TheString3 = replace(TheString2, ' ',';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString3: #TheString3#br /br / --
!--- FOUND PROBLEM WITH Windows;NT;5.1;; (REPLACE THE ;; NO PUN INTENDED!)
---
cfset TheString4 = REReplace(TheString3, '\;;', ';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString4: #TheString4#br /br / --
WORKING OUTPUT:
Mozilla/5.0;Windows;NT;5.1;rv:2.0.1;Gecko/20100101;Firefox/4.0.1
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Re: detecting mobile devices
This JavaScript value extractor would be pretty easy to translate to CF too:
http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html
On 6/10/12 10:39 AM, RICHARD SIMPSON II wrote:
HTTP_USER_AGENT : String ReReplace (UNFINISHED)
My idea is to extract each instance before ; so we can auto detect
operating systems, browser versions, and future devices. This data can be
placed in a table, xml file, etc. Thus, it can be logged, massaged for
css/html5, j-Queried, etc.
I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this.
But it is worth a spin on some ideas. Thanks and CF STILL ROCKS.
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST '(' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString = REReplace(HTTP_USER_AGENT, '\(', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString: #TheString#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST ')' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString2 = REReplace(TheString, '\)', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString2: #TheString2#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE SPACES ' ' WITH ';', CREATING A ; SPACER ---
cfset TheString3 = replace(TheString2, ' ',';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString3: #TheString3#br /br / --
!--- FOUND PROBLEM WITH Windows;NT;5.1;; (REPLACE THE ;; NO PUN
INTENDED!) ---
cfset TheString4 = REReplace(TheString3, '\;;', ';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString4: #TheString4#br /br / --
WORKING OUTPUT:
Mozilla/5.0;Windows;NT;5.1;rv:2.0.1;Gecko/20100101;Firefox/4.0.1
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RE: detecting mobile devices
Hi, Jonah...
Just a quick question...
Have you found the method of detecting specific mobile
devices to be preferable to Responsive Web Design?
Interested to know you thoughts and experience.
Thanks!
Rick
-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:52 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices
This JavaScript value extractor would be pretty easy to translate to CF too:
http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html
On 6/10/12 10:39 AM, RICHARD SIMPSON II wrote:
HTTP_USER_AGENT : String ReReplace (UNFINISHED)
My idea is to extract each instance before ; so we can auto detect
operating systems, browser versions, and future devices. This data can be
placed in a table, xml file, etc. Thus, it can be logged, massaged for
css/html5, j-Queried, etc.
I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this.
But it is worth a spin on some ideas. Thanks and CF STILL ROCKS.
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST '(' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString = REReplace(HTTP_USER_AGENT, '\(', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString: #TheString#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST ')' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString2 = REReplace(TheString, '\)', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString2: #TheString2#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE SPACES ' ' WITH ';', CREATING A ; SPACER ---
cfset TheString3 = replace(TheString2, ' ',';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString3: #TheString3#br /br / --
!--- FOUND PROBLEM WITH Windows;NT;5.1;; (REPLACE THE ;; NO PUN
INTENDED!) ---
cfset TheString4 = REReplace(TheString3, '\;;', ';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString4: #TheString4#br /br / --
WORKING OUTPUT:
Mozilla/5.0;Windows;NT;5.1;rv:2.0.1;Gecko/20100101;Firefox/4.0.1
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Re: detecting mobile devices
All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible
layouts and media queries.
However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that
you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile
and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what
kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further
by serving up the appropriate stuff.
On 6/10/12 5:11 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hi, Jonah...
Just a quick question...
Have you found the method of detecting specific mobile
devices to be preferable to Responsive Web Design?
Interested to know you thoughts and experience.
Thanks!
Rick
-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:52 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices
This JavaScript value extractor would be pretty easy to translate to CF too:
http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html
On 6/10/12 10:39 AM, RICHARD SIMPSON II wrote:
HTTP_USER_AGENT : String ReReplace (UNFINISHED)
My idea is to extract each instance before ; so we can auto detect
operating systems, browser versions, and future devices. This data can be
placed in a table, xml file, etc. Thus, it can be logged, massaged for
css/html5, j-Queried, etc.
I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this.
But it is worth a spin on some ideas. Thanks and CF STILL ROCKS.
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST '(' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString = REReplace(HTTP_USER_AGENT, '\(', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString: #TheString#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST ')' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString2 = REReplace(TheString, '\)', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString2: #TheString2#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE SPACES ' ' WITH ';', CREATING A ; SPACER ---
cfset TheString3 = replace(TheString2, ' ',';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString3: #TheString3#br /br / --
!--- FOUND PROBLEM WITH Windows;NT;5.1;; (REPLACE THE ;; NO PUN
INTENDED!) ---
cfset TheString4 = REReplace(TheString3, '\;;', ';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString4: #TheString4#br /br / --
WORKING OUTPUT:
Mozilla/5.0;Windows;NT;5.1;rv:2.0.1;Gecko/20100101;Firefox/4.0.1
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RE: detecting mobile devices
One problem that I've faced when developing mobile sites
that utilize touch instead of mouse click is with stopping
elements underneath the screen overlay from reacting to a touch.
It seems that a touch will penetrate to any layer under a screen overlay.
I haven't found a solution to this problem other than to us JS to
set the body css to display:none while the overlay is in place.
Is there a simpler way?
Rick
-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices
All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible
layouts and media queries.
However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that
you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile
and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what
kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further
by serving up the appropriate stuff.
On 6/10/12 5:11 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hi, Jonah...
Just a quick question...
Have you found the method of detecting specific mobile
devices to be preferable to Responsive Web Design?
Interested to know you thoughts and experience.
Thanks!
Rick
-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:52 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices
This JavaScript value extractor would be pretty easy to translate to CF
too:
http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html
On 6/10/12 10:39 AM, RICHARD SIMPSON II wrote:
HTTP_USER_AGENT : String ReReplace (UNFINISHED)
My idea is to extract each instance before ; so we can auto detect
operating systems, browser versions, and future devices. This data can be
placed in a table, xml file, etc. Thus, it can be logged, massaged for
css/html5, j-Queried, etc.
I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this.
But it is worth a spin on some ideas. Thanks and CF STILL ROCKS.
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST '(' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString = REReplace(HTTP_USER_AGENT, '\(', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString: #TheString#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST ')' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString2 = REReplace(TheString, '\)', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString2: #TheString2#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE SPACES ' ' WITH ';', CREATING A ; SPACER ---
cfset TheString3 = replace(TheString2, ' ',';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString3: #TheString3#br /br / --
!--- FOUND PROBLEM WITH Windows;NT;5.1;; (REPLACE THE ;; NO PUN
INTENDED!) ---
cfset TheString4 = REReplace(TheString3, '\;;', ';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString4: #TheString4#br /br / --
WORKING OUTPUT:
Mozilla/5.0;Windows;NT;5.1;rv:2.0.1;Gecko/20100101;Firefox/4.0.1
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Re: detecting mobile devices
Out of curiosity, how are you accounting for desktops with touch interfaces? cheers, Judah On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote: All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible layouts and media queries. However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further by serving up the appropriate stuff. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
I'm not yet. (Don't have any target hardware.) :( I would hope that the same touch events are fired in the desktop versions of the browsers. Otherwise it'd be just mean making sure your app uses click but not hover events. On 6/10/12 9:12 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: Out of curiosity, how are you accounting for desktops with touch interfaces? cheers, Judah On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM, .jonah jonah@creori.com wrote: All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible layouts and media queries. However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further by serving up the appropriate stuff. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:351531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
Have you looked at how jQuery mobile handles it?
On 6/10/12 6:59 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
One problem that I've faced when developing mobile sites
that utilize touch instead of mouse click is with stopping
elements underneath the screen overlay from reacting to a touch.
It seems that a touch will penetrate to any layer under a screen overlay.
I haven't found a solution to this problem other than to us JS to
set the body css to display:none while the overlay is in place.
Is there a simpler way?
Rick
-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 8:25 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices
All the projects I'm working on now are responsive e.g. using flexible
layouts and media queries.
However, there are always going to be certain elements or features that
you can't just reflow and have be an optimal experience for both mobile
and desktop. (e.g. touch and mouse/keyboard) so, being able to know what
kind of device you're serving to allows you to optimize things further
by serving up the appropriate stuff.
On 6/10/12 5:11 PM, Rick Faircloth wrote:
Hi, Jonah...
Just a quick question...
Have you found the method of detecting specific mobile
devices to be preferable to Responsive Web Design?
Interested to know you thoughts and experience.
Thanks!
Rick
-Original Message-
From: .jonah [mailto:jonah@creori.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:52 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: detecting mobile devices
This JavaScript value extractor would be pretty easy to translate to CF
too:
http://www.quirksmode.org/js/detect.html
On 6/10/12 10:39 AM, RICHARD SIMPSON II wrote:
HTTP_USER_AGENT : String ReReplace (UNFINISHED)
My idea is to extract each instance before ; so we can auto detect
operating systems, browser versions, and future devices. This data can be
placed in a table, xml file, etc. Thus, it can be logged, massaged for
css/html5, j-Queried, etc.
I'm not sure if this is the best way to do this.
But it is worth a spin on some ideas. Thanks and CF STILL ROCKS.
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST '(' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString = REReplace(HTTP_USER_AGENT, '\(', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString: #TheString#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE FIRST ')' WITH NOTHING '', CREATING A SPACE ---
cfset TheString2 = REReplace(TheString, '\)', '', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString2: #TheString2#br /br / --
!--- REPLACE THE SPACES ' ' WITH ';', CREATING A ; SPACER ---
cfset TheString3 = replace(TheString2, ' ',';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString3: #TheString3#br /br / --
!--- FOUND PROBLEM WITH Windows;NT;5.1;; (REPLACE THE ;; NO PUN
INTENDED!) ---
cfset TheString4 = REReplace(TheString3, '\;;', ';', 'ALL') /
!-- TheString4: #TheString4#br /br / --
WORKING OUTPUT:
Mozilla/5.0;Windows;NT;5.1;rv:2.0.1;Gecko/20100101;Firefox/4.0.1
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detecting mobile devices
We have a requirement to 'detect mobile devices'. I've done some priliminary research and see some are using WURFL file. Is there anyone here using this? Also was wondering what others have been using for this? and are there any recommendations. Thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347876 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
You should be able to compare cgi.HTTP_USER_AGENT to: http://www.zytrax.com/tech/web/mobile_ids.html http://whatsmyuseragent.com/CommonUserAgents.asp etc ...and render accordingly. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: We have a requirement to 'detect mobile devices'. I've done some priliminary research and see some are using WURFL file. Is there anyone here using this? Also was wondering what others have been using for this? and are there any recommendations. Thanks ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347878 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
Yes: use WURFL. This might be useful: http://cfwurfl.riaforge.org/ -- Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog http://www.bifrost.com.au/ On 4 October 2011 22:20, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: We have a requirement to 'detect mobile devices'. ... are there any recommendations. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347879 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
we sort of have this limitation using html/js only. No coldfusion unfortunately. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347880 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
Yes: use WURFL. Does this sound like a resonable solution download WURFL file, pick out the specific few things we are looking for and insert that into our database. Then when we get a user-agent that is mobile we could detect that with a query to our db. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347881 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
Honestly, that seems silly to me. If you have to use js then why obfuscate it by adapting cf to js? Why not just approach it with js natively? http://www.hand-interactive.com/resources/detect-mobile-javascript.htm On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes: use WURFL. Does this sound like a resonable solution download WURFL file, pick out the specific few things we are looking for and insert that into our database. Then when we get a user-agent that is mobile we could detect that with a query to our db. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347882 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
Honestly, that seems silly to me. If you have to use js then why obfuscate it by adapting cf to js? Why not just approach it with js natively? http://www.hand-interactive.com/resources/detect-mobile-javascript.htm Given your description, I'm not sure you have understood the requirement. Given the nature of mobile devices. It would seem that JS is limited in what it can detect. Even that article you mention goes onto suggest WURFL for more succinct data. Also, the article mentions to be able to detect SOME devices with Javascript - that's way off to what we want to accomplish. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347883 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
Honestly, that seems silly to me. If you have to use js then why obfuscate it by adapting cf to js? Why not just approach it with js natively? http://www.hand-interactive.com/resources/detect-mobile-javascript. htm Given your description, I'm not sure you have understood the requirement. Given the nature of mobile devices. It would seem that JS is limited in what it can detect. Even that article you mention goes onto suggest WURFL for more succinct data. Also, the article mentions to be able to detect SOME devices with Javascript - that's way off to what we want to accomplish. Furthermore, that article you mention refers to JS library on MobileESP. But even on The MobileESP project website they state... and JavaScript for more limited client-side detection. Important Caveat: The MobileESP project code is lightweight and ideal for many web sites. However, this project is not meant to replace other projects offering greater specificity and control, such as WURFL or HandsetDetection.com. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347884 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
You're right. I didn't read your reply close enough. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Honestly, that seems silly to me. If you have to use js then why obfuscate it by adapting cf to js? Why not just approach it with js natively? http://www.hand-interactive.com/resources/detect-mobile-javascript. htm Given your description, I'm not sure you have understood the requirement. Given the nature of mobile devices. It would seem that JS is limited in what it can detect. Even that article you mention goes onto suggest WURFL for more succinct data. Also, the article mentions to be able to detect SOME devices with Javascript - that's way off to what we want to accomplish. Furthermore, that article you mention refers to JS library on MobileESP. But even on The MobileESP project website they state... and JavaScript for more limited client-side detection. Important Caveat: The MobileESP project code is lightweight and ideal for many web sites. However, this project is not meant to replace other projects offering greater specificity and control, such as WURFL or HandsetDetection.com. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347886 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices Anyone using : MobileRedirect?
Anyone using : MobileRedirect? http://mobilewebdeveloper.com/index.cfm/page/purchase/item/MobileRedirect It SEEMS pretty good. They say... identifies more than 96% of all mobile devices (test was conducted with the most recent copy of WURFL ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices Anyone using : MobileRedirect?
the best and cheapest mobile and tablet detection is http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ itself. -- Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/108193156965451149543 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 4:44 AM, Don danfar...@hotmail.com wrote: Anyone using : MobileRedirect? http://mobilewebdeveloper.com/index.cfm/page/purchase/item/MobileRedirect It SEEMS pretty good. They say... identifies more than 96% of all mobile devices (test was conducted with the most recent copy of WURFL ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347902 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices Anyone using : MobileRedirect?
check this out... a wurfl web service http://www.wurflws.com/index.jsp ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347904 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: detecting mobile devices
This works. cfif reFindNoCase(android.+mobile|avantgo|bada\/|blackberry|blazer|compal|elaine|fennec|hiptop|iemobile|ip(hone|od)|iris|kindle|lge |maemo|midp|mmp|opera m(ob|in)i|palm( os)?|phone|p(ixi|re)\/|plucker|pocket|psp|symbian|treo|up\.(browser|link)|vodafone|wap|windows (ce|phone)|xda|xiino,CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT) GT 0 OR reFindNoCase(1207|6310|6590|3gso|4thp|50[1-6]i|770s|802s|a wa|abac|ac(er|oo|s\-)|ai(ko|rn)|al(av|ca|co)|amoi|an(ex|ny|yw)|aptu|ar(ch|go)|as(te|us)|attw|au(di|\-m|r |s )|avan|be(ck|ll|nq)|bi(lb|rd)|bl(ac|az)|br(e|v)w|bumb|bw\-(n|u)|c55\/|capi|ccwa|cdm\-|cell|chtm|cldc|cmd\-|co(mp|nd)|craw|da(it|ll|ng)|dbte|dc\-s|devi|dica|dmob|do(c|p)o|ds(12|\-d)|el(49|ai)|em(l2|ul)|er(ic|k0)|esl8|ez([4-7]0|os|wa|ze)|fetc|fly(\-|_)|g1 u|g560|gene|gf\-5|g\-mo|go(\.w|od)|gr(ad|un)|haie|hcit|hd\-(m|p|t)|hei\-|hi(pt|ta)|hp( i|ip)|hs\-c|ht(c(\-| |_|a|g|p|s|t)|tp)|hu(aw|tc)|i\-(20|go|ma)|i230|iac( |\-|\/)|ibro|idea|ig01|ikom|im1k|inno|ipaq|iris|ja(t|v)a|jbro|jemu|jigs|kddi|keji|kgt( |\/)|klon|kpt |kwc\-|kyo(c|k)|le(no|xi)|lg( g|\/(k|l|u)|50|54|e\-|e\/|\-[a-w])|libw|lynx|m1\-w|m3ga|m50\/|ma(te|ui|xo)|mc(01|21|ca)|m\-cr|me(di|rc|ri)|mi(o8|oa|ts)|mmef|mo(01|02|bi|de|do|t(\-| |o|v)|zz)|mt(50|p1|v )|mwbp|mywa|n10[0-2]|n20[2-3]|n30(0|2)|n50(0|2|5)|n7(0(0|1)|10)|ne((c|m)\-|on|tf|wf|wg|wt)|nok(6|i)|nzph|o2im|op(ti|wv)|oran|owg1|p800|pan(a|d|t)|pdxg|pg(13|\-([1-8]|c))|phil|pire|pl(ay|uc)|pn\-2|po(ck|rt|se)|prox|psio|pt\-g|qa\-a|qc(07|12|21|32|60|\-[2-7]|i\-)|qtek|r380|r600|raks|rim9|ro(ve|zo)|s55\/|sa(ge|ma|mm|ms|ny|va)|sc(01|h\-|oo|p\-)|sdk\/|se(c(\-|0|1)|47|mc|nd|ri)|sgh\-|shar|sie(\-|m)|sk\-0|sl(45|id)|sm(al|ar|b3|it|t5)|so(ft|ny)|sp(01|h\-|v\-|v )|sy(01|mb)|t2(18|50)|t6(00|10|18)|ta(gt|lk)|tcl\-|tdg\-|tel(i|m)|tim\-|t\-mo|to(pl|sh)|ts(70|m\-|m3|m5)|tx\-9|up(\.b|g1|si)|utst|v400|v750|veri|vi(rg|te)|vk(40|5[0-3]|\-v)|vm40|voda|vulc|vx(52|53|60|61|70|80|81|83|85|98)|w3c(\-| )|webc|whit|wi(g |nc|nw)|wmlb|wonu|x700|xda(\-|2|g)|yas\-|your|zeto|zte\-,Left(CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT,4)) GT 0 Yes, I am a mobile device. cfelse No, I'm not a mobile device /cfif Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347908 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
This works. cfif reFindNoCase(android.+mobile|avantgo|bada\/|blackberry|blazer|compal|elaine|fennec|hiptop|iemobile|ip(hone|od)|iris|kindle|lge |maemo|midp|mmp|opera m(ob|in)i|palm( os)?|phone|p(ixi|re)\/|plucker|pocket|psp|symbian|treo|up\.(browser|link)|vodafone|wap|windows (ce|phone)|xda|xiino,CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT) GT 0 OR reFindNoCase(1207|6310|6590|3gso|4thp|50[1-6]i|770s|802s|a wa|abac|ac(er|oo|s\- )|ai(ko|rn)|al(av|ca|co)|amoi|an(ex|ny|yw)|aptu|ar(ch|go)|as(te|us)|attw|au(di|\-m|r |s )|avan|be(ck|ll|nq)|bi(lb|rd)|bl(ac|az)|br(e|v)w|bumb|bw\- (n|u)|c55\/|capi|ccwa|cdm\-|cell|chtm|cldc|cmd\-|co(mp|nd)|craw|da(it|ll|ng)|dbte|dc\-s|devi|dica|dmob|do(c|p)o|ds(12|\- d)|el(49|ai)|em(l2|ul)|er(ic|k0)|esl8|ez([4-7]0|os|wa|ze)|fetc|fly(\-|_)|g1 u|g560|gene|gf\-5|g\-mo|go(\.w|od)|gr(ad|un)|haie|hcit|hd\-(m|p|t)|hei\-|hi(pt|ta)|hp( i|ip)|hs\-c|ht(c(\-| |_|a|g|p|s|t)|tp)|hu(aw|tc)|i\-(20|go|ma)|i230|iac( |\-|\/)|ibro|idea|ig01|ikom|im1k|inno|ipaq|iris|ja(t|v)a|jbro|jemu|jigs|kddi|keji|kgt( |\/)|klon|kpt |kwc\-|kyo(c|k)|le(no|xi)|lg( g|\/(k|l|u)|50|54|e\-|e\/|\-[a-w])|libw|lynx|m1\-w|m3ga|m50\/|ma(te|ui|xo)|mc(01|21|ca)|m\- cr|me(di|rc|ri)|mi(o8|oa|ts)|mmef|mo(01|02|bi|de|do|t(\-| |o|v)|zz)|mt(50|p1|v )|mwbp|mywa|n10[0-2]|n20[2-3]|n30(0|2)|n50(0|2|5)|n7(0(0|1)|10)|ne((c|m)\- |on|tf|wf|wg|wt)|nok(6|i)|nzph|o2im|op(ti|wv)|oran|owg1|p800|pan(a|d|t)|pdxg|pg(13|\-([1-8]|c))|phil|pire|pl(ay|uc)|pn\-2|po(ck|rt|se)|prox|psio|pt\-g|qa\- a|qc(07|12|21|32|60|\-[2-7]|i\-)|qtek|r380|r600|raks|rim9|ro(ve|zo)|s55\/|sa(ge|ma|mm|ms|ny|va)|sc(01|h\-|oo|p\-)|sdk\/|se(c(\-|0|1)|47|mc|nd|ri)|sgh\-|shar|sie(\- |m)|sk\-0|sl(45|id)|sm(al|ar|b3|it|t5)|so(ft|ny)|sp(01|h\-|v\-|v )|sy(01|mb)|t2(18|50)|t6(00|10|18)|ta(gt|lk)|tcl\-|tdg\-|tel(i|m)|tim\-|t\-mo|to(pl|sh)|ts(70|m\- |m3|m5)|tx\-9|up(\.b|g1|si)|utst|v400|v750|veri|vi(rg|te)|vk(40|5[0-3]|\-v)|vm40|voda|vulc|vx(52|53|60|61|70|80|81|83|85|98)|w3c(\-| )|webc|whit|wi(g |nc|nw)|wmlb|wonu|x700|xda(\-|2|g)|yas\-|your|zeto|zte\-,Left(CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT,4)) GT 0 Yes, I am a mobile device. cfelse No, I'm not a mobile device /cfif That looks like it's fun to maintain. Fortunately, there aren't ever any new mobile devices. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347910 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
What are you talking about Dave? It's neatly split into two clauses, and the 4-letter ones are alphabetized. Ha ha. -- Josh On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: This works. cfif reFindNoCase(android.+mobile|avantgo|bada\/|blackberry|blazer|compal|elaine|fennec|hiptop|iemobile|ip(hone|od)|iris|kindle|lge |maemo|midp|mmp|opera m(ob|in)i|palm( os)?|phone|p(ixi|re)\/|plucker|pocket|psp|symbian|treo|up\.(browser|link)|vodafone|wap|windows (ce|phone)|xda|xiino,CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT) GT 0 OR reFindNoCase(1207|6310|6590|3gso|4thp|50[1-6]i|770s|802s|a wa|abac|ac(er|oo|s\- )|ai(ko|rn)|al(av|ca|co)|amoi|an(ex|ny|yw)|aptu|ar(ch|go)|as(te|us)|attw|au(di|\-m|r |s )|avan|be(ck|ll|nq)|bi(lb|rd)|bl(ac|az)|br(e|v)w|bumb|bw\- (n|u)|c55\/|capi|ccwa|cdm\-|cell|chtm|cldc|cmd\-|co(mp|nd)|craw|da(it|ll|ng)|dbte|dc\-s|devi|dica|dmob|do(c|p)o|ds(12|\- d)|el(49|ai)|em(l2|ul)|er(ic|k0)|esl8|ez([4-7]0|os|wa|ze)|fetc|fly(\-|_)|g1 u|g560|gene|gf\-5|g\-mo|go(\.w|od)|gr(ad|un)|haie|hcit|hd\-(m|p|t)|hei\-|hi(pt|ta)|hp( i|ip)|hs\-c|ht(c(\-| |_|a|g|p|s|t)|tp)|hu(aw|tc)|i\-(20|go|ma)|i230|iac( |\-|\/)|ibro|idea|ig01|ikom|im1k|inno|ipaq|iris|ja(t|v)a|jbro|jemu|jigs|kddi|keji|kgt( |\/)|klon|kpt |kwc\-|kyo(c|k)|le(no|xi)|lg( g|\/(k|l|u)|50|54|e\-|e\/|\-[a-w])|libw|lynx|m1\-w|m3ga|m50\/|ma(te|ui|xo)|mc(01|21|ca)|m\- cr|me(di|rc|ri)|mi(o8|oa|ts)|mmef|mo(01|02|bi|de|do|t(\-| |o|v)|zz)|mt(50|p1|v )|mwbp|mywa|n10[0-2]|n20[2-3]|n30(0|2)|n50(0|2|5)|n7(0(0|1)|10)|ne((c|m)\- |on|tf|wf|wg|wt)|nok(6|i)|nzph|o2im|op(ti|wv)|oran|owg1|p800|pan(a|d|t)|pdxg|pg(13|\-([1-8]|c))|phil|pire|pl(ay|uc)|pn\-2|po(ck|rt|se)|prox|psio|pt\-g|qa\- a|qc(07|12|21|32|60|\-[2-7]|i\-)|qtek|r380|r600|raks|rim9|ro(ve|zo)|s55\/|sa(ge|ma|mm|ms|ny|va)|sc(01|h\-|oo|p\-)|sdk\/|se(c(\-|0|1)|47|mc|nd|ri)|sgh\-|shar|sie(\- |m)|sk\-0|sl(45|id)|sm(al|ar|b3|it|t5)|so(ft|ny)|sp(01|h\-|v\-|v )|sy(01|mb)|t2(18|50)|t6(00|10|18)|ta(gt|lk)|tcl\-|tdg\-|tel(i|m)|tim\-|t\-mo|to(pl|sh)|ts(70|m\- |m3|m5)|tx\-9|up(\.b|g1|si)|utst|v400|v750|veri|vi(rg|te)|vk(40|5[0-3]|\-v)|vm40|voda|vulc|vx(52|53|60|61|70|80|81|83|85|98)|w3c(\-| )|webc|whit|wi(g |nc|nw)|wmlb|wonu|x700|xda(\-|2|g)|yas\-|your|zeto|zte\-,Left(CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT,4)) GT 0 Yes, I am a mobile device. cfelse No, I'm not a mobile device /cfif That looks like it's fun to maintain. Fortunately, there aren't ever any new mobile devices. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347911 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
What are you talking about Dave? It's neatly split into two clauses, and the 4-letter ones are alphabetized. Ha ha. I do know whether to be scared or impressed that you managed to notice that.. -Le ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347915 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
I do know whether to be scared or impressed that you managed to notice that.. Ack. Meant to type: I do *not* know whether to be scared or impressed ... -Leigh ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347916 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
I know I've already been beaten down for not properly reading the OP's post, so it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black... but he did mention: *we sort of have this limitation using html/js only. No coldfusion unfortunately.* On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote: This works. cfif reFindNoCase(android.+mobile|avantgo|bada\/|blackberry|blazer|compal|elaine|fennec|hiptop|iemobile|ip(hone|od)|iris|kindle|lge |maemo|midp|mmp|opera m(ob|in)i|palm( os)?|phone|p(ixi|re)\/|plucker|pocket|psp|symbian|treo|up\.(browser|link)|vodafone|wap|windows (ce|phone)|xda|xiino,CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT) GT 0 OR reFindNoCase(1207|6310|6590|3gso|4thp|50[1-6]i|770s|802s|a wa|abac|ac(er|oo|s\-)|ai(ko|rn)|al(av|ca|co)|amoi|an(ex|ny|yw)|aptu|ar(ch|go)|as(te|us)|attw|au(di|\-m|r |s )|avan|be(ck|ll|nq)|bi(lb|rd)|bl(ac|az)|br(e|v)w|bumb|bw\-(n|u)|c55\/|capi|ccwa|cdm\-|cell|chtm|cldc|cmd\-|co(mp|nd)|craw|da(it|ll|ng)|dbte|dc\-s|devi|dica|dmob|do(c|p)o|ds(12|\-d)|el(49|ai)|em(l2|ul)|er(ic|k0)|esl8|ez([4-7]0|os|wa|ze)|fetc|fly(\-|_)|g1 u|g560|gene|gf\-5|g\-mo|go(\.w|od)|gr(ad|un)|haie|hcit|hd\-(m|p|t)|hei\-|hi(pt|ta)|hp( i|ip)|hs\-c|ht(c(\-| |_|a|g|p|s|t)|tp)|hu(aw|tc)|i\-(20|go|ma)|i230|iac( |\-|\/)|ibro|idea|ig01|ikom|im1k|inno|ipaq|iris|ja(t|v)a|jbro|jemu|jigs|kddi|keji|kgt( |\/)|klon|kpt |kwc\-|kyo(c|k)|le(no|xi)|lg( g|\/(k|l|u)|50|54|e\-|e\/|\-[a-w])|libw|lynx|m1\-w|m3ga|m50\/|ma(te|ui|xo)|mc(01|21|ca)|m\-cr|me(di|rc|ri)|mi(o8|oa|ts)|mmef|mo(01|02|bi|de|do|t(\-| |o|v)|zz)|mt(50|p1|v )|mwbp|mywa|n10[0-2]|n20[2-3]|n30(0|2)|n50(0|2|5)|n7(0(0|1)|10)|ne((c|m)\-|on|tf|wf|wg|wt)|nok(6|i)|nzph|o2im|op(ti|wv)|oran|owg1|p800|pan(a|d|t)|pdxg|pg(13|\-([1-8]|c))|phil|pire|pl(ay|uc)|pn\-2|po(ck|rt|se)|prox|psio|pt\-g|qa\-a|qc(07|12|21|32|60|\-[2-7]|i\-)|qtek|r380|r600|raks|rim9|ro(ve|zo)|s55\/|sa(ge|ma|mm|ms|ny|va)|sc(01|h\-|oo|p\-)|sdk\/|se(c(\-|0|1)|47|mc|nd|ri)|sgh\-|shar|sie(\-|m)|sk\-0|sl(45|id)|sm(al|ar|b3|it|t5)|so(ft|ny)|sp(01|h\-|v\-|v )|sy(01|mb)|t2(18|50)|t6(00|10|18)|ta(gt|lk)|tcl\-|tdg\-|tel(i|m)|tim\-|t\-mo|to(pl|sh)|ts(70|m\-|m3|m5)|tx\-9|up(\.b|g1|si)|utst|v400|v750|veri|vi(rg|te)|vk(40|5[0-3]|\-v)|vm40|voda|vulc|vx(52|53|60|61|70|80|81|83|85|98)|w3c(\-| )|webc|whit|wi(g |nc|nw)|wmlb|wonu|x700|xda(\-|2|g)|yas\-|your|zeto|zte\-,Left(CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT,4)) GT 0 Yes, I am a mobile device. cfelse No, I'm not a mobile device /cfif Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347918 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
In our defense, that limitation was not actually in OP. And he *was* posting to CFTalk after all... :-) On Oct 4, 2011 5:59 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I know I've already been beaten down for not properly reading the OP's post, so it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black... but he did mention: *we sort of have this limitation using html/js only. No coldfusion unfortunately.* On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote: This works. cfif reFindNoCase(android.+mobile|avantgo|bada\/|blackberry|blazer|compal|elaine|fennec|hiptop|iemobile|ip(hone|od)|iris|kindle|lge |maemo|midp|mmp|opera m(ob|in)i|palm( os)?|phone|p(ixi|re)\/|plucker|pocket|psp|symbian|treo|up\.(browser|link)|vodafone|wap|windows (ce|phone)|xda|xiino,CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT) GT 0 OR reFindNoCase(1207|6310|6590|3gso|4thp|50[1-6]i|770s|802s|a wa|abac|ac(er|oo|s\-)|ai(ko|rn)|al(av|ca|co)|amoi|an(ex|ny|yw)|aptu|ar(ch|go)|as(te|us)|attw|au(di|\-m|r |s )|avan|be(ck|ll|nq)|bi(lb|rd)|bl(ac|az)|br(e|v)w|bumb|bw\-(n|u)|c55\/|capi|ccwa|cdm\-|cell|chtm|cldc|cmd\-|co(mp|nd)|craw|da(it|ll|ng)|dbte|dc\-s|devi|dica|dmob|do(c|p)o|ds(12|\-d)|el(49|ai)|em(l2|ul)|er(ic|k0)|esl8|ez([4-7]0|os|wa|ze)|fetc|fly(\-|_)|g1 u|g560|gene|gf\-5|g\-mo|go(\.w|od)|gr(ad|un)|haie|hcit|hd\-(m|p|t)|hei\-|hi(pt|ta)|hp( i|ip)|hs\-c|ht(c(\-| |_|a|g|p|s|t)|tp)|hu(aw|tc)|i\-(20|go|ma)|i230|iac( |\-|\/)|ibro|idea|ig01|ikom|im1k|inno|ipaq|iris|ja(t|v)a|jbro|jemu|jigs|kddi|keji|kgt( |\/)|klon|kpt |kwc\-|kyo(c|k)|le(no|xi)|lg( g|\/(k|l|u)|50|54|e\-|e\/|\-[a-w])|libw|lynx|m1\-w|m3ga|m50\/|ma(te|ui|xo)|mc(01|21|ca)|m\-cr|me(di|rc|ri)|mi(o8|oa|ts)|mmef|mo(01|02|bi|de|do|t(\-| |o|v)|zz)|mt(50|p1|v )|mwbp|mywa|n10[0-2]|n20[2-3]|n30(0|2)|n50(0|2|5)|n7(0(0|1)|10)|ne((c|m)\-|on|tf|wf|wg|wt)|nok(6|i)|nzph|o2im|op(ti|wv)|oran|owg1|p800|pan(a|d|t)|pdxg|pg(13|\-([1-8]|c))|phil|pire|pl(ay|uc)|pn\-2|po(ck|rt|se)|prox|psio|pt\-g|qa\-a|qc(07|12|21|32|60|\-[2-7]|i\-)|qtek|r380|r600|raks|rim9|ro(ve|zo)|s55\/|sa(ge|ma|mm|ms|ny|va)|sc(01|h\-|oo|p\-)|sdk\/|se(c(\-|0|1)|47|mc|nd|ri)|sgh\-|shar|sie(\-|m)|sk\-0|sl(45|id)|sm(al|ar|b3|it|t5)|so(ft|ny)|sp(01|h\-|v\-|v )|sy(01|mb)|t2(18|50)|t6(00|10|18)|ta(gt|lk)|tcl\-|tdg\-|tel(i|m)|tim\-|t\-mo|to(pl|sh)|ts(70|m\-|m3|m5)|tx\-9|up(\.b|g1|si)|utst|v400|v750|veri|vi(rg|te)|vk(40|5[0-3]|\-v)|vm40|voda|vulc|vx(52|53|60|61|70|80|81|83|85|98)|w3c(\-| )|webc|whit|wi(g |nc|nw)|wmlb|wonu|x700|xda(\-|2|g)|yas\-|your|zeto|zte\-,Left(CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT,4)) GT 0 Yes, I am a mobile device. cfelse No, I'm not a mobile device /cfif Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347919 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: detecting mobile devices
True true. On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 7:01 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: In our defense, that limitation was not actually in OP. And he *was* posting to CFTalk after all... :-) On Oct 4, 2011 5:59 PM, Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz wrote: I know I've already been beaten down for not properly reading the OP's post, so it's a bit of the pot calling the kettle black... but he did mention: *we sort of have this limitation using html/js only. No coldfusion unfortunately.* On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Robert Harrison rob...@austin-williams.comwrote: This works. cfif reFindNoCase(android.+mobile|avantgo|bada\/|blackberry|blazer|compal|elaine|fennec|hiptop|iemobile|ip(hone|od)|iris|kindle|lge |maemo|midp|mmp|opera m(ob|in)i|palm( os)?|phone|p(ixi|re)\/|plucker|pocket|psp|symbian|treo|up\.(browser|link)|vodafone|wap|windows (ce|phone)|xda|xiino,CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT) GT 0 OR reFindNoCase(1207|6310|6590|3gso|4thp|50[1-6]i|770s|802s|a wa|abac|ac(er|oo|s\-)|ai(ko|rn)|al(av|ca|co)|amoi|an(ex|ny|yw)|aptu|ar(ch|go)|as(te|us)|attw|au(di|\-m|r |s )|avan|be(ck|ll|nq)|bi(lb|rd)|bl(ac|az)|br(e|v)w|bumb|bw\-(n|u)|c55\/|capi|ccwa|cdm\-|cell|chtm|cldc|cmd\-|co(mp|nd)|craw|da(it|ll|ng)|dbte|dc\-s|devi|dica|dmob|do(c|p)o|ds(12|\-d)|el(49|ai)|em(l2|ul)|er(ic|k0)|esl8|ez([4-7]0|os|wa|ze)|fetc|fly(\-|_)|g1 u|g560|gene|gf\-5|g\-mo|go(\.w|od)|gr(ad|un)|haie|hcit|hd\-(m|p|t)|hei\-|hi(pt|ta)|hp( i|ip)|hs\-c|ht(c(\-| |_|a|g|p|s|t)|tp)|hu(aw|tc)|i\-(20|go|ma)|i230|iac( |\-|\/)|ibro|idea|ig01|ikom|im1k|inno|ipaq|iris|ja(t|v)a|jbro|jemu|jigs|kddi|keji|kgt( |\/)|klon|kpt |kwc\-|kyo(c|k)|le(no|xi)|lg( g|\/(k|l|u)|50|54|e\-|e\/|\-[a-w])|libw|lynx|m1\-w|m3ga|m50\/|ma(te|ui|xo)|mc(01|21|ca)|m\-cr|me(di|rc|ri)|mi(o8|oa|ts)|mmef|mo(01|02|bi|de|do|t(\-| |o|v)|zz)|mt(50|p1|v )|mwbp|mywa|n10[0-2]|n20[2-3]|n30(0|2)|n50(0|2|5)|n7(0(0|1)|10)|ne((c|m)\-|on|tf|wf|wg|wt)|nok(6|i)|nzph|o2im|op(ti|wv)|oran|owg1|p800|pan(a|d|t)|pdxg|pg(13|\-([1-8]|c))|phil|pire|pl(ay|uc)|pn\-2|po(ck|rt|se)|prox|psio|pt\-g|qa\-a|qc(07|12|21|32|60|\-[2-7]|i\-)|qtek|r380|r600|raks|rim9|ro(ve|zo)|s55\/|sa(ge|ma|mm|ms|ny|va)|sc(01|h\-|oo|p\-)|sdk\/|se(c(\-|0|1)|47|mc|nd|ri)|sgh\-|shar|sie(\-|m)|sk\-0|sl(45|id)|sm(al|ar|b3|it|t5)|so(ft|ny)|sp(01|h\-|v\-|v )|sy(01|mb)|t2(18|50)|t6(00|10|18)|ta(gt|lk)|tcl\-|tdg\-|tel(i|m)|tim\-|t\-mo|to(pl|sh)|ts(70|m\-|m3|m5)|tx\-9|up(\.b|g1|si)|utst|v400|v750|veri|vi(rg|te)|vk(40|5[0-3]|\-v)|vm40|voda|vulc|vx(52|53|60|61|70|80|81|83|85|98)|w3c(\-| )|webc|whit|wi(g |nc|nw)|wmlb|wonu|x700|xda(\-|2|g)|yas\-|your|zeto|zte\-,Left(CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT,4)) GT 0 Yes, I am a mobile device. cfelse No, I'm not a mobile device /cfif Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive Services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 P : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 http://www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or. It must be . Plug in to our blog: AW Unplugged http://www.austin-williams.com/unplugged ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347921 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Detecting Mobile Devices
I have just finished the development of a mobile site for our
university. I have placed a redirect script on the home page and
everything seems to be working. I was wondering if there is a more
streamlined approach to detecting the different devices. Right now I am
checking for specific brands. I can see this list expanding as more
devices come on the market. Any thoughts.
cfif findNoCase('blackberry', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('iphone', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('droid', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif CGI.HTTP_ACCEPT CONTAINS text/vnd.wap.wml
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
/cfif
Steve LaBadie, Web Manager
East Stroudsburg University
200 Prospect St.
East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301
570-422-3999
http://www.esu.edu http://www.esu.edu
slaba...@po-box.esu.edu mailto:slaba...@po-box.esu.edu
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RE: Detecting Mobile Devices
I'd put all this in a function, and run the user agent string through it.
Then use the function call to return a boolean. Also, I found this function
on CFLib.org.
http://cflib.org/index.cfm?event=page.udfbyidudfid=1887
Might be worth giving it a try.
andy
-Original Message-
From: Steve LaBadie [mailto:slaba...@po-box.esu.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:16 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Detecting Mobile Devices
I have just finished the development of a mobile site for our university. I
have placed a redirect script on the home page and everything seems to be
working. I was wondering if there is a more streamlined approach to
detecting the different devices. Right now I am checking for specific
brands. I can see this list expanding as more devices come on the market.
Any thoughts.
cfif findNoCase('blackberry', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('iphone', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('droid', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif CGI.HTTP_ACCEPT CONTAINS text/vnd.wap.wml
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
/cfif
Steve LaBadie, Web Manager
East Stroudsburg University
200 Prospect St.
East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301
570-422-3999
http://www.esu.edu http://www.esu.edu
slaba...@po-box.esu.edu mailto:slaba...@po-box.esu.edu
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Re: Detecting Mobile Devices
I have just finished the development of a mobile site for our
university. I have placed a redirect script on the home page and
everything seems to be working. I was wondering if there is a more
streamlined approach to detecting the different devices. Right now I am
checking for specific brands. I can see this list expanding as more
devices come on the market. Any thoughts.
cfif findNoCase('blackberry', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('iphone', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('droid', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif CGI.HTTP_ACCEPT CONTAINS text/vnd.wap.wml
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
/cfif
Well, my first recommendation might have been to use mobile
stylesheets instead of creating a separate site, but it's probably too
late for that.
My second recommendation might be to use the scripts here:
http://detectmobilebrowser.com/
Click on the Download Scripts link in the middle of the page, then
choose ColdFusion.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
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Re: Detecting Mobile Devices
Try WURFL: http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 13 October 2010 21:16, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: I have just finished the development of a mobile site for our university. I have placed a redirect script on the home page and everything seems to be working. I was wondering if there is a more streamlined approach to detecting the different devices. Right now I am checking for specific brands. I can see this list expanding as more devices come on the market. Any thoughts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338114 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Detecting Mobile Devices
Thanks for the info everyone. Steve LaBadie, Web Manager East Stroudsburg University 200 Prospect St. East Stroudsburg, Pa 18301 570-422-3999 http://www.esu.edu slaba...@po-box.esu.edu -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:57 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Detecting Mobile Devices Try WURFL: http://wurfl.sourceforge.net/ -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 13 October 2010 21:16, Steve LaBadie slaba...@po-box.esu.edu wrote: I have just finished the development of a mobile site for our university. I have placed a redirect script on the home page and everything seems to be working. I was wondering if there is a more streamlined approach to detecting the different devices. Right now I am checking for specific brands. I can see this list expanding as more devices come on the market. Any thoughts. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:338148 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Detecting Mobile Devices
That regex gave me a headache...wow! hehehehe
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 9:54 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Detecting Mobile Devices
I have just finished the development of a mobile site for our
university. I have placed a redirect script on the home page and
everything seems to be working. I was wondering if there is a more
streamlined approach to detecting the different devices. Right now I am
checking for specific brands. I can see this list expanding as more
devices come on the market. Any thoughts.
cfif findNoCase('blackberry', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('iphone', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif findNoCase('droid', CGI.HTTP_USER_AGENT)
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
cfelseif CGI.HTTP_ACCEPT CONTAINS text/vnd.wap.wml
cflocation url=http://esu.mpill.me; addtoken=no
/cfif
Well, my first recommendation might have been to use mobile
stylesheets instead of creating a separate site, but it's probably too
late for that.
My second recommendation might be to use the scripts here:
http://detectmobilebrowser.com/
Click on the Download Scripts link in the middle of the page, then
choose ColdFusion.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
http://training.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on
GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite.
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