Re: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-12 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 09 Nov 2007, Ian Skinner wrote:
 Thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately we are a mix of Unix and
 Windows systems here.

Use something like Nessus, nmap, Perl etc. to scan every IP for web servers. 
That should narrow it down.

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Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Ian Skinner
I have been tasked to bring some order to the chaos.

Our organization pays for six ColdFusion licenses each year, but nobody 
has a definitive list of what machines have what ColdFusion installed on 
them.  I have a vague memory that there is|was a tool that could survey 
a network and report on what it finds running ColdFusion.  Am I 
imagining this or is there something out there that will save us (me) 
from looking at the directories of dozens of servers and hundreds of 
workstations to see what may or may not be properly or improperly installed?



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Re: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Bruce Sorge
I know that CF-8 has a License Scanner under Debugging and Logging. it 
will search your subnet for other running instances of CF. Not sure if 
this is what you are looking for.

Bruce

Ian Skinner wrote:
 I have been tasked to bring some order to the chaos.

 Our organization pays for six ColdFusion licenses each year, but nobody 
 has a definitive list of what machines have what ColdFusion installed on 
 them.  I have a vague memory that there is|was a tool that could survey 
 a network and report on what it finds running ColdFusion.  Am I 
 imagining this or is there something out there that will save us (me) 
 from looking at the directories of dozens of servers and hundreds of 
 workstations to see what may or may not be properly or improperly installed?
   

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Re: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Ian Skinner
Bruce Sorge wrote:
 I know that CF-8 has a License Scanner under Debugging and Logging. it 
 will search your subnet for other running instances of CF. Not sure if 
 this is what you are looking for.

 Bruce
I think that is what I was looking for.  I just tried it on the 
developer version running on my workstation and it found no other 
machines running CF.

A few questions that this list maybe able to answer faster then I can 
find them on my own when I start looking after sending this email.

What is a 'subnet' in reference to this product and why would my 
workstation not see other CF machines on our intranet network?

Does this tool only find CF 8 or any version of CF?

Did this tool exist in earlier versions of CF? 

Currently 8 is only installed on a couple of workstations, our network 
can have versions of CF between 4.5 and 7 running on various machines.

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RE: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Dawson, Michael
There is a license scanner, but I don't think it works across subnets.

There are a few solutions to this if these are Windows computers...

Getting a list of computers is very easy if you are running Active
Directory.  Just query the AD LDAP server for Computer objects.

1. Use MS SMS (Systems Management Server) to find services running on
the workstations.
2. Write a VBScript that is run in the login script for each
workstation.  Have the VBScript locate either the service or the CF
directory, then send an email or log it.
3. Give your CF service account enough permissions to connect to each
workstation.  Then, have it loop over the results of the Active
Directory LDAP query and test for the CF directory.

I'm sure there are other, better solutions, but this is all I can think
of on a Friday.

M!ke

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Finding ColdFusion servers

I have been tasked to bring some order to the chaos.

Our organization pays for six ColdFusion licenses each year, but nobody
has a definitive list of what machines have what ColdFusion installed on
them.  I have a vague memory that there is|was a tool that could survey
a network and report on what it finds running ColdFusion.  Am I
imagining this or is there something out there that will save us (me)
from looking at the directories of dozens of servers and hundreds of
workstations to see what may or may not be properly or improperly
installed?

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Re: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Bruce Sorge
Official definition of a subnet according to Search Networking:

A subnet (short for subnetwork) is an identifiably separate part of an 
organization's network. Typically, a subnet may represent all the 
machines at one geographic location, in one building, or on the same 
local area network (LAN 
http://searchNetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid8_gci212495,00.html).
 
Having an organization's network divided into subnets allows it to be 
connected to the Internet with a single shared network address. Without 
subnets, an organization could get multiple connections to the Internet, 
one for each of its physically separate subnetworks, but this would 
require an unnecessary use of the limited number of network numbers the 
Internet has to assign. It would also require that Internet routing 
tables on gateways outside the organization would need to know about and 
have to manage routing that could and should be handled within an 
organization.

The Internet is a collection of networks whose users communicate with 
each other. Each communication carries the address of the source and 
destination networks and the particular machine within the network 
associated with the user or host computer at each end. This address is 
called the IP address 
http://searchVB.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid7_gci212381,00.html 
(Internet Protocol address). This 32-bit IP address has two parts: one 
part identifies the network (with the /network number/) and the other 
part identifies the specific machine or host within the network (with 
the /host number/). An organization can use some of the bits in the 
machine or host part of the address to identify a specific subnet. 
Effectively, the IP address then contains three parts: the network 
number, the subnet number, and the machine number.

The standard procedure for creating and identifying subnets is provided 
in Internet Request for Comments /definition/0,,sid9_gci214264,00.html 
950.

The 32-bit IP address is often depicted as a dot address 
http://searchSMB.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid_gci211994,00.html 
(also called /dotted quad notation/) - that is, four groups (or quad 
/definition/0,,sid7_gci212850,00.htmls) of decimal numbers separated 
by periods. Here's an example:

   130.5.5.25

Each of the decimal numbers represents a string of eight binary digits. 
Thus, the above IP address really is this string of 0s and 1s:

   1010.0101.0101.00011001

As you can see, we inserted periods between each eight-digit sequence 
just as we did for the decimal version of the IP address. Obviously, the 
decimal version of the IP address is easier to read and that's the form 
most commonly used.

Some portion of the IP address represents the network number or address 
and some portion represents the local machine address (also known as the 
/host number/ or address). IP addresses can be one of several classes, 
each determining how many bits represent the network number and how many 
represent the host number. The most common class used by large 
organizations (Class B) allows 16 bits for the network number and 16 for 
the host number. Using the above example, here's how the IP address is 
divided:

  --Network addressHost address-- 
 130.5 .  5.25

If you wanted to add subnetting to this address, then some portion (in 
this example, eight bits) of the host address could be used for a subnet 
address. Thus:

   --Network addressSubnet addressHost address--
  130.5  .   5   .  25

To simplify this explanation, we've divided the subnet into a neat eight 
bits but an organization could choose some other scheme using only part 
of the third quad or even part of the fourth quad.

Once a packet has arrived at an organization's gateway 
http://searchNetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid44_gci212176,00.html 
or connection point with its unique network number, it can be routed 
within the organization's internal gateways using the subnet number. The 
router knows which bits to look at (and which not to look at) by looking 
at a subnet mask 
http://searchNetworking.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid9_gci1248394,00.html,
 
which is a screen of numbers that tells you which numbers to look at 
underneath. In a binary mask, a 1 over a number says Look at the 
number underneath; a 0 says Don't look. Using a mask saves the 
router having to handle the entire 32 bit address; it can simply look at 
the bits selected by the mask.

Interestingly enough, I have a dev machine within our subnet but when I 
run the scanner, it does not find it. I am going to get with our network 
guys here and see what's up with that. Also, this tool is available in 
CF 7 as well as 8, not sure about other versions. And I think that it 
looks for all versions of CF.

Ian Skinner wrote:
 I think that is what I was looking for.  I just tried it on the 
 developer version running on my 

Re: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Ian Skinner
Dawson, Michael wrote:
 I'm sure there are other, better solutions, but this is all I can think
 of on a Friday.

 M!ke
Thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately we are a mix of Unix and 
Windows systems here.


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RE: Finding ColdFusion servers

2007-11-09 Thread Keith, Jeremy
What I do ...

Is since I know all my servers and have their Ips listed in my asset
management app db I just kicked off a CF execute

cfsavecontent variable=result
cfexecute
   name = c:\windows\system32\sc.exe  
   arguments = \\#servers.computer_name# query
   timeout = 15
   
/cfexecute
/cfsavecontent

If you can span your subnets and I think snmp needs to be running, but
then dump this data into a db and query it for  coldfusion


Jeremy Keith
Network Administrator
Rand-Whitney Group LLC
One Agrand Street
Worcester, MA 01607
Office: (508) 890-7032


-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 3:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Finding ColdFusion servers

Dawson, Michael wrote:
 I'm sure there are other, better solutions, but this is all I can 
 think of on a Friday.

 M!ke
Thanks for your suggestion, unfortunately we are a mix of Unix and
Windows systems here.




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