Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
>in eclipse window > prefernces should have a RDS config point. window >> show view > other should have a coldfusion choice with three views >under it. You setup the RDS info in the first above. > Ahh yes, I've got it! You rock dude! now if I could just get somebody to show me howta link up my db data with this datagrid I dragged'n'dropped into design view. lol :) Thanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246212 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
in eclipse window > prefernces should have a RDS config point. window > show view > other should have a coldfusion choice with three views under it. You setup the RDS info in the first above. DK On 7/11/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try here: > > http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip > > > Well now I've installed that one. The other one is named > coldfusion_flex_extensions.zip > > are these the same ya think? I was thinking the CF_FB one was for RDS, etc. > > If I'm in flex, what should I be looking for if the coldfusion extensions are > installed? > > Thanks and sorry for the hassle, > Will > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246211 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
> Try here: > http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip Well now I've installed that one. The other one is named coldfusion_flex_extensions.zip are these the same ya think? I was thinking the CF_FB one was for RDS, etc. If I'm in flex, what should I be looking for if the coldfusion extensions are installed? Thanks and sorry for the hassle, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246170 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
This book, written by one of my mates, was good for Flex 1 but it is so outdated you may as well just use LiveDocs! This book is up their side by side with my Spectra book ah Spectra "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Jose Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Jul 11 15:38:52 2006 Subject: Re: Flex / Coldfusion question... This is an excellent book on learning flex well worth a read, however I do believe it was for flex version 1.0 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321255666/103-8367109-1247065?v=glance&n=2 83155 Jose Diaz On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: > > Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched > > it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! > > Oddness. > > > Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? > > Try here: > http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip > > -- > Tom Chiverton > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a > partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. > Regulated by the Law Society. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246119 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
This is an excellent book on learning flex well worth a read, however I do believe it was for flex version 1.0 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321255666/103-8367109-1247065?v=glance&n=283155 Jose Diaz On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: > > Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched > > it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! > > Oddness. > > > Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? > > Try here: > http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip > > -- > Tom Chiverton > > > > This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. > > Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England > and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address > is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is > available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a > partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. > Regulated by the Law Society. > > CONFIDENTIALITY > > This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and > may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you > must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it > nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its > existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please > delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. > > For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246092 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: > Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched > it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Oddness. > Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Try here: http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246067 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
> Do a find for all the .zip files in the Program Files folder :-) > The way I got it was to run the installer, and then when it was > unpacked and Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Thanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:246065 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Monday 10 July 2006 11:10, Will Tomlinson wrote: > It isn't there. Any ideas where it might be? I've looked thru these > subfolders and still don't see it. Maybe I can just dload it from the adobe > site somewhere. Or somebody could email me this zip? Do a find for all the .zip files in the Program Files folder :-) The way I got it was to run the installer, and then when it was unpacked and waiting for the first button press, run a search across the whole disk for new .zip files :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245905 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
So it says this and I don't see it anywhere. And I don't see an extras directory. Select the ColdFusion_FlexBuilder_Feature.zip file, and then click Open. The file is located in the Extras folder if you installed ColdFusion MX 7.0.2 using the default values. Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245903 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
> The CF_FB... .zip are extensions for Eclipse or FlexBuilder that add > RDS > support. > Nothing to do with Flex remoting to the CF server. Yeah I'm looking now and it was telling me to find coldfusion_flex_blahblah.zip in the flex builder 2 folder, when you run thru help > software updates > etc. It isn't there. Any ideas where it might be? I've looked thru these subfolders and still don't see it. Maybe I can just dload it from the adobe site somewhere. Or somebody could email me this zip? Thanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245901 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
A ... ok Well that one's working because all my RDS is indeed there. But I never saw the zip it was telling me to install. H.. I'll look some more. THanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245900 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Saturday 08 July 2006 20:13, Denny Valliant wrote: > If I'm remembering right, the new 7.02 updater has the flex extensions > built-in, > so I was wondering if that's still necessary? > > CF_FB.zip and installed that. The CF_FB... .zip are extensions for Eclipse or FlexBuilder that add RDS support. Nothing to do with Flex remoting to the CF server. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245897 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
If I'm remembering right, the new 7.02 updater has the flex extensions built-in, so I was wondering if that's still necessary? On 7/8/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Prolly download again. Seems to work fine for me. Did you use an > download > >accelerator? Those can be wonky sometimes... > > > Yep that worked. Got it all installed, but it asked me if I wanted to > install the cf extensions, I followed the instructions, and the zip it told > me to use wasn't there. I ended up finding one somewhere else called > CF_FB.zip and installed that. > > Heck, I dunno. > > Thanks, > Will > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245812 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
>Prolly download again. Seems to work fine for me. Did you use an download >accelerator? Those can be wonky sometimes... Yep that worked. Got it all installed, but it asked me if I wanted to install the cf extensions, I followed the instructions, and the zip it told me to use wasn't there. I ended up finding one somewhere else called CF_FB.zip and installed that. Heck, I dunno. Thanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245794 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Prolly download again. Seems to work fine for me. Did you use an download accelerator? Those can be wonky sometimes... On 7/7/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. > >feel like kicking my pc out the window. > > Here's the error I'm getting when I try installing Flex. > > "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are > attemtting to run has been corrupted. Please obtain another copy of the > file, verify its integrity, > and try again." > > I also get an error when I try installing fds2-install.jar > > That one says, "Invalid or corruptp jar file" > > Maybe I should try downloading it again? heck, I dunno. > > Will > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245785 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
>i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. >feel like kicking my pc out the window. Here's the error I'm getting when I try installing Flex. "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are attemtting to run has been corrupted. Please obtain another copy of the file, verify its integrity, and try again." I also get an error when I try installing fds2-install.jar That one says, "Invalid or corruptp jar file" Maybe I should try downloading it again? heck, I dunno. Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245774 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
I'm still running the release candidate, but I didn't have much trouble with it. Are you both getting the same error? On 7/7/06, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. > feel like kicking my pc out the window. > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245769 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. feel like kicking my pc out the window. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245741 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Dangit! Just dloaded a couple hundred megs of flex software, and I'm gettin "executable has been corrupted" errors. UGH! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On 7/6/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Neither. CFML and MXML are languages used to CREATE presentation > layers. HTML and SWF movies are the "presentation layer", not the > languages used to generate them. Especially since the CFML runs on the > server, not on the client. I think that MXML "creates" a presentation layer, or represents it, perhaps, where as CFML really shouldn't have much to do with presentation. I mean it can, but following X methodology, you should keep the presentation logic separate from the actual heavy lifting code. This is one I always have trouble with. Separating the two. CSS has helped, but I still find myself putting HTML in with stuff that shouldn't have any. I'm getting better at it, but sometimes chopping stuff into it's component parts isn't as easy as you'd think. Eh, live and learn! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245709 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Tom Chiverton wrote: > > CFML is a presentation layer with cool integration with databases (I'm > speaking roughly here, with as broad a brush as I can find :-) ), that > renders to HTML. > MXML is a presentation layer with cool integration to remote services, that > renders to Flash. Neither. CFML and MXML are languages used to CREATE presentation layers. HTML and SWF movies are the "presentation layer", not the languages used to generate them. Especially since the CFML runs on the server, not on the client. Maybe this is a better analogy... What AJAX does for HTML, Flex does for Flash.. maybe that's closer. Except most of what you could do in Flex could be done in the Flash Authoring environment. Which is where Flex Builder comes in... Flex Builder is really just an IDE that makes it easier to develop RIAs... anyone who has tried to build an RIA of any size using the Flash authoring environment knows that it's a kludge. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245664 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Friday 07 July 2006 11:03, Hugo Ahlenius wrote: > What do you base that on? Should each product have a gateway page then? Depends if you want your whole product catalogue indexed or not. It's not like you need generate them by hand. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245660 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...
| Only if you build it so that it wont be. | Typically, having a 'gateway' HTML page, or a Flash wrapper page with | decent META tags will sort you out. What do you base that on? Should each product have a gateway page then? /Hugo ###This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange.Formore information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245658 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Friday 07 July 2006 10:29, Will Tomlinson wrote: > won't > be indexed by search engines? Only if you build it so that it wont be. Typically, having a 'gateway' HTML page, or a Flash wrapper page with decent META tags will sort you out. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245656 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4; //Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Friday 07 July 2006 10:27, Will Tomlinson wrote: > But now you're mixin me up. You're comparing CFML to something that's > presentation only. CFML is a presentation layer with cool integration with databases (I'm speaking roughly here, with as broad a brush as I can find :-) ), that renders to HTML. MXML is a presentation layer with cool integration to remote services, that renders to Flash. It's how I explain it to people for the first time anyway. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4; //Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
And how can you get away with building a Flex ecommerce app when it won't be indexed by search engines? How would I ever explain that one to a client? Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245654 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4; //Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
> The way I see it, what CFML did for HTML, Flex does for Flash. > But now you're mixin me up. You're comparing CFML to something that's presentation only. Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245653 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4; //Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On Thursday 06 July 2006 23:45, Denny Valliant wrote: > Pretty much. It's a font end / remote interface to X (X being Java, CF, > ASP, etc heck, flat files even). I think. I may be mixing openlaszlo > in there too, but close enough, I figure. It's an interface above all > else. The way I see it, what CFML did for HTML, Flex does for Flash. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:245649 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4; //Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Indeed, and it will always be a flash interface.. You can look at Backbase as well, does the same thing but in Ajax. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri Jul 07 00:53:51 2006 Subject: Re: Flex / Coldfusion question... Get out your actionscript 3.0 books boys and girls, there are some "wizzards" but you'll still need to have some flash skills to make anything really cool. -- Casey Dougall Web Applications Developer Ph: 518 743-9424 Fax: 743-0337 Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New York 12801 Marketing to New York State Destinations? We offer quality Travel Industry Directories, Including www.Albany.com, www.LakeGeorge.com & www.Saratoga.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245640 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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What is a good AS 3.0 book for a beginner? On 7/6/06, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Get out your actionscript 3.0 books boys and girls, there are some > "wizzards" but you'll still need to have some flash skills to make > anything > really cool. > > -- > Casey Dougall > Web Applications Developer > Ph: 518 743-9424 Fax: 743-0337 > > Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New York 12801 > > Marketing to New York State Destinations? > We offer quality Travel Industry Directories, Including www.Albany.com, > www.LakeGeorge.com & www.Saratoga.com > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245635 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
The easiet way to work out flex is to dowload the free trial and try it. Work through the getting started tutorial - build the rss reader, for example. On 7/7/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, > then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person > doesn't have CF installed. > > At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and it > still needs CF server to interact with db's and such. Is this all it does? Is > it possible to use Flex on its own, without CF? > > Apparently, the Adobe site makes no mention of CF in the Flex sales material. > Maybe someone could explain a little further? -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245634 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Get out your actionscript 3.0 books boys and girls, there are some "wizzards" but you'll still need to have some flash skills to make anything really cool. -- Casey Dougall Web Applications Developer Ph: 518 743-9424 Fax: 743-0337 Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New York 12801 Marketing to New York State Destinations? We offer quality Travel Industry Directories, Including www.Albany.com, www.LakeGeorge.com & www.Saratoga.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245631 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Will Tomlinson wrote: > > Like, how? And why is CF not mentioned anywhere on the adobe site? > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ CF isn't mentioned as a requirement for a very simple reason. CF isn't required. Flex apps can interact with all kinds of external data, including XML files, web services, and flash remoting (which *ALSO* doesn't require coldfusion). So the backend to flex can be xml files, perl, php, asp, ..net, python, java servlets, jsp, C... you name it. if you can generate XML or build SOAP-based web services with a language - you can build a backend to Flex with it. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245628 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
K gotcha! Thanks! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245627 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...
On 7/6/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and > it still needs CF server to interact with db's and such. Is this all it > does? Pretty much. It's a font end / remote interface to X (X being Java, CF, ASP, etc heck, flat files even). I think. I may be mixing openlaszlo in there too, but close enough, I figure. It's an interface above all else. Is it possible to use Flex on its own, without CF? Yuppers. The main benefit to CF integration is the RDS stuff, auto-generation of DAOs and whatnot, I feel. Ready made tools, if you will, vs. self rolled. Apparently, the Adobe site makes no mention of CF in the Flex sales > material. Maybe someone could explain a little further? They want to target more than just CF. And with a IDE like FB2, I mean, wow, that's nice. CF is mentioned, but downplayed, if I recall (which I might not- I peruse a volume of info, and it bleeds a bit, so...). But basicly yes, Flex is an interface to/for many things, not just CF. ** Those wizards look pretty amazing though- many thx to the creators of those instructional videos! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245626 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Good stuff! This definitely helps! Thanks much, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245625 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...
It is just an interface building language. Can you write a standalone HTML app, or do you have to have CF for that to work? It's the same idea. > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:26 PM > > >Yes you can use it on it's own. > > Like, how? And why is CF not mentioned anywhere on the adobe site? > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245624 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Flex can be used standalone if you aren't using data at all. You can connect Flex to data back-ends with xml, web-services, the additional Flex Data Services component (a J2EE application) OR ColdFusion/Flash Remoting. So there is much that can be done with Flex without ColdFusion. Alternatively there are some very cool things that can be done with Flex and ColdFusion together. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA - | 1 | | - Binary Soduko | | | - "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245623 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...
Flex is an interface only. Flex is an xml markup (mxml) which is complied to generate a flash movie (.swf). It does not run any code on the server, but instead is loaded on the client in the user's browser. Flex is not CF in any way shape or form. You can in fact build a flash interface using Flex and no Cold Fusion. Now, here's the catch, if you want to have server side interaction with your flash front end (db calls, etc) then you are going to have to have some web services in place which your flex front end can consume. These web services can really be written in anything you want. It just to happens that Cold Fusion works very well to write web accessible CFC's for Flex to use flash remoting to access. Using a Flex (Flash) interface consuming Cold Fusion web services is ONE WAY to use Flex. Flex, however as a language, is not dependant in any way on Cold Fusion, or any specific server side language. Of course, Macrodobie tries to make it as easy as possible for people out there to pair them together. That makes it easier to integrate, and is more money for them. :) Hope that helps a bit. I know I grappled for a while about exactly how Flex would fit into the market. Another thing you will hear people say is that Flex will replace CF. That is in no way a true statement, since they are two different technologies which can work hand in hand. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flex / Coldfusion question... I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person doesn't have CF installed. At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and it still needs CF server to interact with db's and such. Is this all it does? Is it possible to use Flex on its own, without CF? Apparently, the Adobe site makes no mention of CF in the Flex sales material. Maybe someone could explain a little further? Thanks, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245622 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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>Yes you can use it on it's own. Like, how? And why is CF not mentioned anywhere on the adobe site? http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ Thanks, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245621 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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Yes you can use it on it's own. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Jul 06 23:19:17 2006 Subject: Flex / Coldfusion question... I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person doesn't have CF installed. At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and it still needs CF server to interact with db's and such. Is this all it does? Is it possible to use Flex on its own, without CF? Apparently, the Adobe site makes no mention of CF in the Flex sales material. Maybe someone could explain a little further? Thanks, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245620 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Flex / Coldfusion question...
I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person doesn't have CF installed. At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and it still needs CF server to interact with db's and such. Is this all it does? Is it possible to use Flex on its own, without CF? Apparently, the Adobe site makes no mention of CF in the Flex sales material. Maybe someone could explain a little further? Thanks, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245619 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54