RE: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
but why, i wonder do they do that? i mean, you'd think that google has a guru of the regex kind there in-house that could handle it so that those are really TWO different addresses. You can also stick arbitrary stuff on the end of your email address too: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12096topic=1564 So you could send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it would show up in the inbox of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This can be useful for filtering etc -- you can apply a label to mails that come in from that address, or direct them straight to trash. Or use the address as a throwaway when signing up to sites that you think might sell your email address -- if you start getting spam then just apply a filter to send those mails straight to the spam/trash folders. You have to wonder if this and the . issue were actually implemented on purpose, or if it was a mistake that someone decided would be a good idea to make into a feature :) Tim. -- --- Badpen Tech - CF and web-tech: http://tech.badpen.com/ --- RAWNET LTD - independent digital media agency We are big, we are funny and we are clever! New site launched at http://www.rawnet.com/ --- This message may contain information which is legally privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorised disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information is strictly prohibited. Such notification notwithstanding, any comments, opinions, information or conclusions expressed in this message are those of the originator, not of rawnet limited, unless otherwise explicitly and independently indicated by an authorised representative of rawnet limited. --- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229847 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
sometimes, just sometimes... those are the best features that make their way into a project :) :) tony On 1/18/06, Tim Blair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to wonder if this and the . issue were actually implemented on purpose, or if it was a mistake that someone decided would be a good idea to make into a feature :) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229857 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
When I used to do a lot of email admin we would routinely have people want to change their address from something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Would have been nice at the time had the email server just ignored periods so people would put them wherever they wanted them to be. On 1/18/06, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but why, i wonder do they do that? i mean, you'd think that google has a guru of the regex kind there in-house that could handle it so that those are really TWO different addresses. im glad it isnt like that, i wouldnt want anyone else to have tony DOT weeg AT gmail DOT com, no way! but still kinda odd i think? tw ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229869 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
But I can't login as georgeabraham only as george.abraham, so that conflicts with the implementation. George On 1/17/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I'm not positive, but when I read that page you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham, their server really created it as georgeabraham. Otherwise they would have conflicts, like you are describing. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229882 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
Actually from what I read from it, is it created the username as george.abraham for login purposes, but it ignores the .'s when routing mail. So you will get email for georgeabraham, george.abraham, geo.rge.abra.ham, etc... -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames But I can't login as georgeabraham only as george.abraham, so that conflicts with the implementation. George On 1/17/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I'm not positive, but when I read that page you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham, their server really created it as georgeabraham. Otherwise they would have conflicts, like you are describing. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229884 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
Doesn't the login for gmail work for other google systems as well? On 1/18/06, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually from what I read from it, is it created the username as george.abraham for login purposes, but it ignores the .'s when routing mail. So you will get email for georgeabraham, george.abraham, geo.rge.abra.ham, etc... -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames But I can't login as georgeabraham only as george.abraham, so that conflicts with the implementation. George On 1/17/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I'm not positive, but when I read that page you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham, their server really created it as georgeabraham. Otherwise they would have conflicts, like you are describing. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229893 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
Well, your email address and your username are not necessarily the same thing. While you can receive mail at: georgeabraham george.abraham g.e.o.rgeabr.ah.am+filter That doesn't mean those are your user names for logging in. The only time this would be a problem is if I could open an account as something like: geo.rge.a.b.raham But I can't do this, because georgeabraham is already taken and it's login user name happens to be george.abraham --Ferg George Abraham wrote: But I can't login as georgeabraham only as george.abraham, so that conflicts with the implementation. George On 1/17/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I'm not positive, but when I read that page you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham, their server really created it as georgeabraham. Otherwise they would have conflicts, like you are describing. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229885 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
All, I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was spam and tagged it thus. Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words george and abraham.) For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I found this in Gmail's FAQ. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messages+dotctx=bugflow Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to usernames to me. George ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229821 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
Sounds like they don't recognize the period by design. As long as they inform you ahead of time I guess I'm ok with it I wonder if it is non-compliant with an RFC out there somewhere -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames All, I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was spam and tagged it thus. Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words george and abraham.) For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I found this in Gmail's FAQ. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messag es+dotctx=bugflow Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to usernames to me. George ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229824 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
It'd matter the other way. Since bboisvert@ and b.boisvert@ are both RFC-compliant email addresses and GMail behaves properly with each, they're fine. What GMail is doing is saying that both of those (along with various other permutations) are really just aliases. Kind of like how some servers let you append arbitrary stuff in front of a plus sign in front of your username ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that won't affect delivery, but will let you track where address came from. cheers, barneyb On 1/17/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like they don't recognize the period by design. As long as they inform you ahead of time I guess I'm ok with it I wonder if it is non-compliant with an RFC out there somewhere -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/ Got Gmail? I have 100 invites. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229827 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! On 1/17/06, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was spam and tagged it thus. Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words george and abraham.) For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I found this in Gmail's FAQ. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messages+dotctx=bugflow Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to usernames to me. George ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229828 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
Gmail is placing CF-Talk in my spam folder to... what is the solution to this problem? -Aaron On 1/17/06, Mark A Kruger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like they don't recognize the period by design. As long as they inform you ahead of time I guess I'm ok with it I wonder if it is non-compliant with an RFC out there somewhere -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames All, I happened to read the exchange where Gmail thought some CF-Talk mail was spam and tagged it thus. Today, I just realized an interesting 'feature' about Gmail. I own a Gmail account with the username george.abraham (note the period between the words.) I Do NOT however own georgeabraham (no period between the words george and abraham.) For the past 2 months, I have been intermittently getting email that was addressed to georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I kept wondering why I am getting this person's email. I finally decided to complain about/investigate it. I found this in Gmail's FAQ. http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=10313bug=1query=messag es+dotctx=bugflow Is this acceptable? It sounds like a pretty interesting approach to usernames to me. George ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229834 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I'm not positive, but when I read that page you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham, their server really created it as georgeabraham. Otherwise they would have conflicts, like you are describing. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229836 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames
but why, i wonder do they do that? i mean, you'd think that google has a guru of the regex kind there in-house that could handle it so that those are really TWO different addresses. im glad it isnt like that, i wouldnt want anyone else to have tony DOT weeg AT gmail DOT com, no way! but still kinda odd i think? tw On 1/17/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From reading their site, it sounds like your email address is really georgeabraham(AT)gmail.com. I'm not positive, but when I read that page you posted the link to, it looked like the gmail server just ignore anything with a (.) in them, so when you signed up for george.abraham, their server really created it as georgeabraham. Otherwise they would have conflicts, like you are describing. -Original Message- From: Michael Traher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WOT: Gmail's interesting approach to usernames It would be OK if they had stopped the second George Abraham to sign up from using that name! Otherwise it is a seriously flawed design! [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:229845 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
