Re: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 07 July 2006 19:50, Jon Block wrote:
 Why the *heck* doesn't cfapplication have a clienttimeout attribute?
 None of the programmers here can guess as to why there would be a
 sessiontimeout but no clienttimeout. *sigh*...

How do you timeout a client-stored cookie on a web browser that may never 
connect again ?

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Re: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-10 Thread Peter Tilbrook
Turn on J2EE session variables. And USE session variables. Client vars are 
supposed to persist (like cookies). Session vars are not.

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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-10 Thread Jon Block
Right, but I'm interested in having the user's session timeout after 60
minutes of inactivity.

Jon

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

 Why the *heck* doesn't cfapplication have a clienttimeout attribute?

 None of the programmers here can guess as to why there would be a 
 sessiontimeout but no clienttimeout. *sigh*...

Session variables are stored in memory, which is very fast but
relatively limited. So, you don't want to persist sessions longer than
you have to.
Client variables, on the other hand, persist on disk somewhere, and
there's no significant cost to keeping them for a long time - often
across multiple visits from a user. You can get rid of Client variables
by purging them periodically, which is the rough equivalent to the time
out you're looking for.

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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-10 Thread Dave Watts
 Right, but I'm interested in having the user's session 
 timeout after 60 minutes of inactivity.

Then, you might either (a) use Session variables, or (b) write code to
disconnect clients after 60 minutes of inactivity by deleting their cookies.

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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-07 Thread Jon Block
Why the *heck* doesn't cfapplication have a clienttimeout attribute?
None of the programmers here can guess as to why there would be a
sessiontimeout but no clienttimeout. *sigh*...

I'll just write my own implementation for that...

Jon

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

The purge interval is actually how often the schedule runs to do the
purging, not how ten they purged.

The timeout is specified by choosing your client storage Mechanism  and
setting it there. 

Purge data for clients that remain unvisited for

And specify how many days the client variables should remain active for.

-
Snake

-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 July 2006 14:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

Its called 'Purge Interval' and is under Server Settings  Client
Variables, at the bottom of the page.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

Clearly I'm missing something.. On which cfide admin page do I set the
timeout for client variables?

Jon 



-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

That's because a sessiontimeout is for session variables as the name
implies not client variables.
Client variables will expire as pe rthe settings in the coldfusion
administrator.

Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 June 2006 20:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How do I set client variables timeout?

My CFApplication tag looks like this:
 
cfapplication
 name= example
 sessionmanagement = yes
 clientmanagement = yes
 sessiontimeout  = #CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 0, 0)#
 setclientcookies = no /
 
However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. 
 
Any ideas?
Jon


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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-07 Thread Dave Watts
 Why the *heck* doesn't cfapplication have a clienttimeout 
 attribute? None of the programmers here can guess as to why 
 there would be a sessiontimeout but no clienttimeout. *sigh*...

Session variables are stored in memory, which is very fast but relatively
limited. So, you don't want to persist sessions longer than you have to.
Client variables, on the other hand, persist on disk somewhere, and there's
no significant cost to keeping them for a long time - often across multiple
visits from a user. You can get rid of Client variables by purging them
periodically, which is the rough equivalent to the time out you're looking
for.

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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-07 Thread Snake
If client vars are stored in the DB, and that table is big (lots of client
vars) I have seen the performance bomb quite a a lot. Regular purging is
recommended, the default 90 days is too long on a busy server.

Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 July 2006 20:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

 Why the *heck* doesn't cfapplication have a clienttimeout attribute? 
 None of the programmers here can guess as to why there would be a 
 sessiontimeout but no clienttimeout. *sigh*...

Session variables are stored in memory, which is very fast but relatively
limited. So, you don't want to persist sessions longer than you have to.
Client variables, on the other hand, persist on disk somewhere, and there's
no significant cost to keeping them for a long time - often across multiple
visits from a user. You can get rid of Client variables by purging them
periodically, which is the rough equivalent to the time out you're looking
for.

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Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-05 Thread Jon Block
Clearly I'm missing something.. On which cfide admin page do I set the
timeout for client variables?

Jon 



-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

That's because a sessiontimeout is for session variables as the name
implies not client variables.
Client variables will expire as pe rthe settings in the coldfusion
administrator.

Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 June 2006 20:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How do I set client variables timeout?

My CFApplication tag looks like this:
 
cfapplication
 name= example
 sessionmanagement = yes
 clientmanagement = yes
 sessiontimeout  = #CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 0, 0)#
 setclientcookies = no /
 
However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. 
 
Any ideas?
Jon


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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-05 Thread Peterson, Chris
Its called 'Purge Interval' and is under Server Settings  Client
Variables, at the bottom of the page.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

Clearly I'm missing something.. On which cfide admin page do I set the
timeout for client variables?

Jon 



-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

That's because a sessiontimeout is for session variables as the name
implies not client variables.
Client variables will expire as pe rthe settings in the coldfusion
administrator.

Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 June 2006 20:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How do I set client variables timeout?

My CFApplication tag looks like this:
 
cfapplication
 name= example
 sessionmanagement = yes
 clientmanagement = yes
 sessiontimeout  = #CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 0, 0)#
 setclientcookies = no /
 
However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. 
 
Any ideas?
Jon


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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-07-05 Thread Snake
The purge interval is actually how often the schedule runs to do the
purging, not how ten they purged.

The timeout is specified by choosing your client storage Mechanism  and
setting it there. 

Purge data for clients that remain unvisited for

And specify how many days the client variables should remain active for.

-
Snake

-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 July 2006 14:52
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

Its called 'Purge Interval' and is under Server Settings  Client Variables,
at the bottom of the page.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 9:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

Clearly I'm missing something.. On which cfide admin page do I set the
timeout for client variables?

Jon 



-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

That's because a sessiontimeout is for session variables as the name implies
not client variables.
Client variables will expire as pe rthe settings in the coldfusion
administrator.

Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 29 June 2006 20:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How do I set client variables timeout?

My CFApplication tag looks like this:
 
cfapplication
 name= example
 sessionmanagement = yes
 clientmanagement = yes
 sessiontimeout  = #CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 0, 0)#
 setclientcookies = no /
 
However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. 
 
Any ideas?
Jon


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How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-06-29 Thread Jon Block
My CFApplication tag looks like this:
 
cfapplication
 name= example
 sessionmanagement = yes
 clientmanagement = yes
 sessiontimeout  = #CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 0, 0)#
 setclientcookies = no /
 
However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. 
 
Any ideas?
Jon


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RE: How do I set client variables timeout?

2006-06-29 Thread Snake
That's because a sessiontimeout is for session variables as the name implies
not client variables.
Client variables will expire as pe rthe settings in the coldfusion
administrator.

Snake 

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 29 June 2006 20:08
To: CF-Talk
Subject: How do I set client variables timeout?

My CFApplication tag looks like this:
 
cfapplication
 name= example
 sessionmanagement = yes
 clientmanagement = yes
 sessiontimeout  = #CreateTimeSpan(0, 1, 0, 0)#
 setclientcookies = no /
 
However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. 
 
Any ideas?
Jon


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