Re: MAC Linux laptops (was about blue dragon.)

2003-09-10 Thread Ryan Mitchell
The powerbooks get you don't they :)

I'm using a 15inch powerbook 1ghz with a gig of ram, and I couldnĀ¹t go back
to a pc. My workflow has shot up since I switched. I can do everything I
could before (with the exception of access - which I have since buried in
the dirt) so much faster and easier.



On 10/9/03 2:24, Dan O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not to sound like a MAC virgin, but x11 apps? What is that?
 
 One of my Sony laptops is off to be repaired once again and I was
 thinking about getting either a MAC or a laptop with Linux on it. Maybe
 one of those MAC laptops with the huge wide screen.
 
 Dan
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 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:38 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: about blue dragon.
 
 
 They don't crash.  Excepting to install some updates last night, I've
 had it on with DW and various other programs open for weeks.  My win2k
 office workstation, on the other hand, requires me to restart
 dreamweaver at least once a day, and reboot once a week.  Also, my
 production servers are all *nix, so I don't have to deal with any of the
 potential problems moving code from windows dev machines to *nix
 production.  Finally, you can run all the X11 apps you know and love
 right on the desktop intermixed with your other OSX apps.  And if you're
 still hooked to windows, you can run emulation software or a terminal
 services client and easily get your MS fix.
 
 barneyb
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: about blue dragon.
 
 
 PowerBooks are awesome development machines!
 
 Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
 
 What advantages do you think they have over WIN based. What about
 homesite and the other MX product line?
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: MAC Linux laptops (was about blue dragon.)

2003-09-10 Thread Barney Boisvert
Matt's answer was dead on, but probably not what you were looking for.

X11 is the underlying system that drives the GUI of pretty much all *nix
applications that use a windowing environment, including the various desktop
environments (like KDE and GNOME).

With X11 support on the Mac, combined with it's *nix underpinnings, you
basically have the ability to run any major *nix product.  Without X, you'd
be limited to console apps (emacs, pine, lynx) and/or daemons (apache,
tomcat, mysql).

barneyb

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 -Original Message-
 From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:24 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: MAC  Linux laptops (was about blue dragon.)


 Not to sound like a MAC virgin, but x11 apps? What is that?

 One of my Sony laptops is off to be repaired once again and I was
 thinking about getting either a MAC or a laptop with Linux on it. Maybe
 one of those MAC laptops with the huge wide screen.

 Dan
 === Previous Message Below ===


 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:38 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: about blue dragon.


 They don't crash.  Excepting to install some updates last night, I've
 had it on with DW and various other programs open for weeks.  My win2k
 office workstation, on the other hand, requires me to restart
 dreamweaver at least once a day, and reboot once a week.  Also, my
 production servers are all *nix, so I don't have to deal with any of the
 potential problems moving code from windows dev machines to *nix
 production.  Finally, you can run all the X11 apps you know and love
 right on the desktop intermixed with your other OSX apps.  And if you're
 still hooked to windows, you can run emulation software or a terminal
 services client and easily get your MS fix.

 barneyb

 ---
 Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
 AudienceCentral
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 voice : 360.756.8080 x12
 fax   : 360.647.5351

 www.audiencecentral.com


  -Original Message-
  From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:22 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: about blue dragon.
 
 
  PowerBooks are awesome development machines!
 
  Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
 
  What advantages do you think they have over WIN based. What about
  homesite and the other MX product line?
 
  Dan
 
 
 
 

 
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RE: MAC Linux laptops (was about blue dragon.)

2003-09-09 Thread Dan O'Keefe
Not to sound like a MAC virgin, but x11 apps? What is that?

One of my Sony laptops is off to be repaired once again and I was
thinking about getting either a MAC or a laptop with Linux on it. Maybe
one of those MAC laptops with the huge wide screen.

Dan
=== Previous Message Below ===


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: about blue dragon.


They don't crash.  Excepting to install some updates last night, I've
had it on with DW and various other programs open for weeks.  My win2k
office workstation, on the other hand, requires me to restart
dreamweaver at least once a day, and reboot once a week.  Also, my
production servers are all *nix, so I don't have to deal with any of the
potential problems moving code from windows dev machines to *nix
production.  Finally, you can run all the X11 apps you know and love
right on the desktop intermixed with your other OSX apps.  And if you're
still hooked to windows, you can run emulation software or a terminal
services client and easily get your MS fix.

barneyb

---
Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
AudienceCentral
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.756.8080 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Dan O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:22 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: about blue dragon.


 PowerBooks are awesome development machines!

 Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

 What advantages do you think they have over WIN based. What about 
 homesite and the other MX product line?

 Dan



 

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Re: MAC Linux laptops (was about blue dragon.)

2003-09-09 Thread Matt Liotta
 Not to sound like a MAC virgin, but x11 apps? What is that?

X11:
A specification for device-independent windowing operations on bitmap 
display devices, developed initially by MIT's Project Athena and now a 
de facto standard supported by the X Consortium.  X was named after an 
earlier window system called W.  It is a window system called X, 
not a system called X Windows.

X uses a client-server protocol, the X protocol.  The server is the 
computer or X terminal with the screen, keyboard, mouse and server 
program and the clients are application programs.  Clients may run on 
the same computer as the server or on a different computer, 
communicating over Ethernet via TCP/IP protocols.  This is confusing 
because X clients often run on what people usually think of as their 
server (e.g. a file server) but in X, it is the screen and keyboard 
etc. which is being served out to the applications.

X is used on many Unix systems.  It has also been described as 
over-sized, over-featured, over-engineered and incredibly 
over-complicated.  X11R6 (version 11, release 6) was released in May 
1994.

Matt Liotta
President  CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
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