Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
I have to use Dreamweaver at two of my clients, I do not know the versions offhand but both are before CC. The syncing is pretty elementary but honestly in all the years I have had to use the product it has not failed to show me that files local v. remote are different. If I want to see the difference and compare them then I click the button which then loads up my default tool(Beyond Compare) and then with that tool I can see the line differences. There are rare times that the sync thinks a difference exists but none at all does, but I am not going to get upset with Dreamweaver over that because quite frankly sometimes Beyond Compare even does that and we are talking rare times. DW is not all that bad of a tool but I guess it boils down to what and how it is used. I personally use it for no more than a code editor and to push/get files off development servers, actually kind of rare I used it for sync'n except when taking on support of someone's old project. I never have used any of the page browsing features or really any of the design tools and lord knows what else is in there. I use CFB2 at my office and not yet found time to put 3 on that machine. There are a number of minor things I just do not like and hopefully the recent change takes care of. Especially in regards to writing HTML, no matter how much I try to tweak settings I find I often am typing more elements out in CFB v. DW and that statement does actually apply to both CF and HTML. -- Admiral Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: But I would even go as far as to say that DW file sync, is not feature rich and is very basic file sync at best. I doubt it could do line sync'ing in any way shape or form. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
So to summarise then, ColdFusion Builder 3 is a great IDE, except that the following important features dont work for me, and no one has been able to show me that they can work for me ... [A] FTP doesnt work, and no one has yet offered me any way to make it work. [B] Code insight apparently doesnt work if you use ColdSpring to instantiate the CFCs [C] You can't use the view in browser function - apparently it's been removed from ColdFusion Builder 3.(Unless someone can tell me where to find it). I can't see the point in paying all that cash for something that doesnt even do what UltraEdit can do. Or have it got it all wrong?Where are the fanboys now that were berating me for using Dreamweaver all these years? All these functions worked in Dreamweaver right up till Adobe decided that ColdFusion wasnt worthy of being in their product. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358502 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Or have it got it all wrong?Where are the fanboys now that were berating me for using Dreamweaver all these years? All these functions worked in Dreamweaver right up till Adobe decided that ColdFusion wasnt worthy of being in their product. [Sublime Text Editor] http://www.sublimetext.com/ DONE! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358503 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Mike, With the question below, I am guessing as it is still in development there are some parts of the rewrite that is still coming. But for now the option you are seeking is the run as. If you RMB on a file or project you can select run as ColdFusion Application. This has always been very flakey over the years, main reason is because it is assumed you are writing very procedural code. In other words if you begin relying on frameworks etc like ColdBox you run into issues with this, or if you have a project structure that is has a wwwroot inside the project. This is something that has annoyed me from the very first version of CFB, but if you have a very basic structure then the run as is what you seek. But again you still need to setup the server connection correctly in CFB as well as attach the project to that defined server setting. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know if it's possible to have the page run inside CF Builder? Or can i stop looking because it's been removed from version 2 to version 3? Cheers Mike Kear ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358504 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Ah so since i use http://dev.sitename as my local url, I should name the server connections dev.afpcms and dev.afpwebworks and dev.sitenameis that how you mean? Cheers Mike Kear On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Actually that was probably a little vague, what I mean is if you need to connect to more than website using the same ColdFusion instance. In CFB you will need to add a server connection for each website. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358505 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Sort off, I used to do it so that when I add a server to CFB I would use the one connection to one ColdFusion Instance. Then would use that for every project, but I found an issue where the run as in the editor wouldn't work.. Long story short, the server settings in CFB are really a joke and I have never liked them. It is NOT user friendly and I dare say would turn a lot of people away from CFB. But what do I know... Anyway when you set up a server, the very first screen is how to connect to ColdFusion, in here is the hostname or IP address of the server and the port that the CFIDE will be found on. Unless your running a J2EE version you can ignore the J2EE settings and further down is the RDS username and Password to Connect to that ColdFusion server. When you go to the next section, you are then presented with where and how ColdFusion is located as well as the document root for the server as well as the document root. Now the thing that is not clear here is is this what ColdFusion sees or is this for the the actual project files. But this is where it is frigging hard to work out and the documentation is not clear. But what I have done is used the IIS webroot here for the document root and used the projects location to get things working. But this is why the run page in CFB has issues for me, as when I setup a server with the document root to the projects code it works to a degree. Personally I tried hard in the CFB1 pre-release days to get Adobe to look at having one server setup, where I could use the projects path as the document path for ColdFusion. Otherwise in my case I have around 15-20 websites setup for ColdFusion 9 alone and 2 or 3 for ColdFusion 10, which means 23 servers in CFB pointing to technically one ColdFusion installation. Hope I didn't loose you, but this section isnt the best for understanding from a fresh set of eyes. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Ah so since i use http://dev.sitename as my local url, I should name the server connections dev.afpcms and dev.afpwebworks and dev.sitenameis that how you mean? Cheers Mike Kear On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually that was probably a little vague, what I mean is if you need to connect to more than website using the same ColdFusion instance. In CFB you will need to add a server connection for each website. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358507 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Why does FTP not work? You don't actually say why it doesn't work. Code insight does work, see where I said you may need to add those mappings to the project. Yes you can, the view in browser was and still might be a button that is a short cut to the run as ColdFusion Application, And just because the button is not there in the public beta, doesn't mean (And I seriously cross my fingers as I say this) it will not be in the final release. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: So to summarise then, ColdFusion Builder 3 is a great IDE, except that the following important features dont work for me, and no one has been able to show me that they can work for me ... [A] FTP doesnt work, and no one has yet offered me any way to make it work. [B] Code insight apparently doesnt work if you use ColdSpring to instantiate the CFCs [C] You can't use the view in browser function - apparently it's been removed from ColdFusion Builder 3.(Unless someone can tell me where to find it). I can't see the point in paying all that cash for something that doesnt even do what UltraEdit can do. Or have it got it all wrong?Where are the fanboys now that were berating me for using Dreamweaver all these years? All these functions worked in Dreamweaver right up till Adobe decided that ColdFusion wasnt worthy of being in their product. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358508 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Mike, Code insight does work on CFC that have been invoked using ColdSpring, you just need to tell CFB where to find the CFC. Just follow these steps: 1. In the project properties, click on the CFC Mappings link. 2. Click on the New button in the CFC Variable Mapping section. 3. Enter usersDAO for the variable name 4. Enter the dotted path from the website root to the CFC (I keep mine in model directory so I would enter model.userDAO) 5. Click Ok to save and exit the properties dialog. After you do this, whenever you create a variable named usersDAO, CFB will present code insight for any methods found in usersDAO CFC. So your example would work fine. usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:29 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: So to summarise then, ColdFusion Builder 3 is a great IDE, except that the following important features dont work for me, and no one has been able to show me that they can work for me ... [A] FTP doesnt work, and no one has yet offered me any way to make it work. [B] Code insight apparently doesnt work if you use ColdSpring to instantiate the CFCs [C] You can't use the view in browser function - apparently it's been removed from ColdFusion Builder 3.(Unless someone can tell me where to find it). I can't see the point in paying all that cash for something that doesnt even do what UltraEdit can do. Or have it got it all wrong?Where are the fanboys now that were berating me for using Dreamweaver all these years? All these functions worked in Dreamweaver right up till Adobe decided that ColdFusion wasnt worthy of being in their product. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358509 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Ok that's good news, Dean. I see code insight as a big benefit of ColdFusion Builder, but so many things are going wrong these days I was getting to assume that this was just not going to work for me. (Sometimes I think there's a malicious supreme being looking over me saying nah ah. you can't do that ) So when i create a new CFC, I have to enter it into the ColdSpring.XML so Coldspring can find it and also into the CFC Mappings in CFBuilder, as you described. Right? Cheers Mike Kear On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Code insight does work on CFC that have been invoked using ColdSpring, you just need to tell CFB where to find the CFC. Just follow these steps: 1. In the project properties, click on the CFC Mappings link. 2. Click on the New button in the CFC Variable Mapping section. 3. Enter usersDAO for the variable name 4. Enter the dotted path from the website root to the CFC (I keep mine in model directory so I would enter model.userDAO) 5. Click Ok to save and exit the properties dialog. After you do this, whenever you create a variable named usersDAO, CFB will present code insight for any methods found in usersDAO CFC. So your example would work fine. usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358510 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Yes, that is correct. Just as you are telling ColdSpring where the CFC is, you also have to tell CFB. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Ok that's good news, Dean. I see code insight as a big benefit of ColdFusion Builder, but so many things are going wrong these days I was getting to assume that this was just not going to work for me. (Sometimes I think there's a malicious supreme being looking over me saying nah ah. you can't do that ) So when i create a new CFC, I have to enter it into the ColdSpring.XML so Coldspring can find it and also into the CFC Mappings in CFBuilder, as you described. Right? Cheers Mike Kear On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Dean Lawrence dean...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, Code insight does work on CFC that have been invoked using ColdSpring, you just need to tell CFB where to find the CFC. Just follow these steps: 1. In the project properties, click on the CFC Mappings link. 2. Click on the New button in the CFC Variable Mapping section. 3. Enter usersDAO for the variable name 4. Enter the dotted path from the website root to the CFC (I keep mine in model directory so I would enter model.userDAO) 5. Click Ok to save and exit the properties dialog. After you do this, whenever you create a variable named usersDAO, CFB will present code insight for any methods found in usersDAO CFC. So your example would work fine. usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358511 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Thank you for persevering with me, Andrew. I'm glad it's not just me being dense. This is still very confusing. I suppose once I've set up a couple of projects it might be understandable. I'd hope so - i have 39 to set up!! Dean, thanks for the reassurance that code insight actually does work. I can make code insight work as far as the application.beanfactory.getbean() part - Typing 'application.' will result in getting the insight into the coldspring CFCs. but when i type the bean name, and want the methods inside my CFC, it doesnt work. So I suspect the reason for that is that I havent got the server set up properly in the project.Therefore I'm putting this aside for now and I'll come back to it once I've worked out the server settings I'm not sure this is a public beta. Adobe doesnt say so on the web site. I never use beta software - ever since those awful consequences of using the WIndows95 beta all those years ago. I'd have noticed if the Adobe website said the word beta I feel sure. i'm putting aside the FTP and code insight things for the moment and I'll come back to that. It's quite likely the problems I'm having there are because I havent set up the project's 50,000 settings correctly. (ok slight exaggeration - its only 35,498 settings ) .I doubt they're goign to work properly if i havent got the folder settings right in the project setup. So here's my structure: I have a coldfusion jrun installation, set to all the default locations. So it's at c:\jrun4 I have apache web server running, with a document root at D:\Sites\webroot\htdocs All my site files are on my d: drive for example i have the following structure for one of my sites: D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006 D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\local-logs (apache's logs ) D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\Resources(for working files and notes and bits of images etc) D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\site\web(the root of the site). The project still isnt set up properly in CFBuilder, because the 'run as' function gives the error: selected file is not in the root of the server This happens even after I set up a linked folder to the document root. So I guess the problem is that I havent set up the server correctly.Can someone help me with this please? or point me towards a tutorial or a blog entry that covers this aspect? Sadly the majority of the resources I've found just skip over the tricky bits I'm not understanding. Like for example what is the context root of the server? No one ever explains the term context root as distinct from 'server root' and 'web root' and 'document root'. And in any case, I set up my coldfusion server a year ago on a very stressful day for other reasons. I can't remember what I typed in as the context root at the time.How do i find out now? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358512 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Actually I did mention the J2EE aspects, the context if if your using an instance under a context. I don't use the run as / view so I am guessing, but you did RMB on the project and select the server to use for this project? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for persevering with me, Andrew. I'm glad it's not just me being dense. This is still very confusing. I suppose once I've set up a couple of projects it might be understandable. I'd hope so - i have 39 to set up!! Dean, thanks for the reassurance that code insight actually does work. I can make code insight work as far as the application.beanfactory.getbean() part - Typing 'application.' will result in getting the insight into the coldspring CFCs. but when i type the bean name, and want the methods inside my CFC, it doesnt work. So I suspect the reason for that is that I havent got the server set up properly in the project.Therefore I'm putting this aside for now and I'll come back to it once I've worked out the server settings I'm not sure this is a public beta. Adobe doesnt say so on the web site. I never use beta software - ever since those awful consequences of using the WIndows95 beta all those years ago. I'd have noticed if the Adobe website said the word beta I feel sure. i'm putting aside the FTP and code insight things for the moment and I'll come back to that. It's quite likely the problems I'm having there are because I havent set up the project's 50,000 settings correctly. (ok slight exaggeration - its only 35,498 settings ) .I doubt they're goign to work properly if i havent got the folder settings right in the project setup. So here's my structure: I have a coldfusion jrun installation, set to all the default locations. So it's at c:\jrun4 I have apache web server running, with a document root at D:\Sites\webroot\htdocs All my site files are on my d: drive for example i have the following structure for one of my sites: D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006 D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\local-logs (apache's logs ) D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\Resources(for working files and notes and bits of images etc) D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\site\web(the root of the site). The project still isnt set up properly in CFBuilder, because the 'run as' function gives the error: selected file is not in the root of the server This happens even after I set up a linked folder to the document root. So I guess the problem is that I havent set up the server correctly.Can someone help me with this please? or point me towards a tutorial or a blog entry that covers this aspect? Sadly the majority of the resources I've found just skip over the tricky bits I'm not understanding. Like for example what is the context root of the server? No one ever explains the term context root as distinct from 'server root' and 'web root' and 'document root'. And in any case, I set up my coldfusion server a year ago on a very stressful day for other reasons. I can't remember what I typed in as the context root at the time.How do i find out now? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358513 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Oh I did not know it had been released as yet... Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Actually I did mention the J2EE aspects, the context if if your using an instance under a context. I don't use the run as / view so I am guessing, but you did RMB on the project and select the server to use for this project? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for persevering with me, Andrew. I'm glad it's not just me being dense. This is still very confusing. I suppose once I've set up a couple of projects it might be understandable. I'd hope so - i have 39 to set up!! Dean, thanks for the reassurance that code insight actually does work. I can make code insight work as far as the application.beanfactory.getbean() part - Typing 'application.' will result in getting the insight into the coldspring CFCs. but when i type the bean name, and want the methods inside my CFC, it doesnt work. So I suspect the reason for that is that I havent got the server set up properly in the project.Therefore I'm putting this aside for now and I'll come back to it once I've worked out the server settings I'm not sure this is a public beta. Adobe doesnt say so on the web site. I never use beta software - ever since those awful consequences of using the WIndows95 beta all those years ago. I'd have noticed if the Adobe website said the word beta I feel sure. i'm putting aside the FTP and code insight things for the moment and I'll come back to that. It's quite likely the problems I'm having there are because I havent set up the project's 50,000 settings correctly. (ok slight exaggeration - its only 35,498 settings ) .I doubt they're goign to work properly if i havent got the folder settings right in the project setup. So here's my structure: I have a coldfusion jrun installation, set to all the default locations. So it's at c:\jrun4 I have apache web server running, with a document root at D:\Sites\webroot\htdocs All my site files are on my d: drive for example i have the following structure for one of my sites: D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006 D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\local-logs (apache's logs ) D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\Resources(for working files and notes and bits of images etc) D:\Sites\MySites\atalkingdog.com.2006\site\web(the root of the site). The project still isnt set up properly in CFBuilder, because the 'run as' function gives the error: selected file is not in the root of the server This happens even after I set up a linked folder to the document root. So I guess the problem is that I havent set up the server correctly. Can someone help me with this please? or point me towards a tutorial or a blog entry that covers this aspect? Sadly the majority of the resources I've found just skip over the tricky bits I'm not understanding. Like for example what is the context root of the server? No one ever explains the term context root as distinct from 'server root' and 'web root' and 'document root'. And in any case, I set up my coldfusion server a year ago on a very stressful day for other reasons. I can't remember what I typed in as the context root at the time.How do i find out now? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Andrew, thanks . I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I am not 'getting it' yet. the context if if your using an instance under a context. What does that mean? How to i know if i'm using a context?I just installed ColdFusion using the defaults that come with the jrun install. Cheers Mike Kear On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Actually I did mention the J2EE aspects, the context if if your using an instance under a context. I don't use the run as / view so I am guessing, but you did RMB on the project and select the server to use for this project? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Mike, Context only applies if you install ColdFusion as a J2EE server instance, and you have a context to access that instance. If you only have a standalone / Multi (pre CF 10) then you will not need to worry about it, which I said earlier. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, thanks . I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I am not 'getting it' yet. the context if if your using an instance under a context. What does that mean? How to i know if i'm using a context?I just installed ColdFusion using the defaults that come with the jrun install. Cheers Mike Kear On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Actually I did mention the J2EE aspects, the context if if your using an instance under a context. I don't use the run as / view so I am guessing, but you did RMB on the project and select the server to use for this project? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Thanks Scott but i DO have a J2EE server. That was how we all set up coldfusion from MX because that's how shared hosting was set up. So anyone using shared hosting set dev servers up the same. So I hate to be keeping on about it but I dont understand what a context is. Do i have one? Why do i want one? I have a CF9 setup as J2EE which is what most people did for CF9, as I believe. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Mike, Context only applies if you install ColdFusion as a J2EE server instance, and you have a context to access that instance. If you only have a standalone / Multi (pre CF 10) then you will not need to worry about it, which I said earlier. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, thanks . I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I am not 'getting it' yet. the context if if your using an instance under a context. What does that mean? How to i know if i'm using a context?I just installed ColdFusion using the defaults that come with the jrun install. Cheers Mike Kear -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358517 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Oops. How rude. Thanks ANDREW!!! Sorry :) On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Scott but i DO have a J2EE server. That was how we all set up coldfusion from MX because that's how shared hosting was set up. So anyone using shared hosting set dev servers up the same. So I hate to be keeping on about it but I dont understand what a context is. Do i have one? Why do i want one? I have a CF9 setup as J2EE which is what most people did for CF9, as I believe. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Mike, Context only applies if you install ColdFusion as a J2EE server instance, and you have a context to access that instance. If you only have a standalone / Multi (pre CF 10) then you will not need to worry about it, which I said earlier. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, thanks . I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I am not 'getting it' yet. the context if if your using an instance under a context. What does that mean? How to i know if i'm using a context?I just installed ColdFusion using the defaults that come with the jrun install. Cheers Mike Kear -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
I believe it was released the same day as CF11 On May 1, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Oh I did not know it had been released as yet... Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358519 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
lol... np... Well what is the URL you access the Administrator with, does it have cfusion in it? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Oops. How rude. Thanks ANDREW!!! Sorry :) On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Scott but i DO have a J2EE server. That was how we all set up coldfusion from MX because that's how shared hosting was set up. So anyone using shared hosting set dev servers up the same. So I hate to be keeping on about it but I dont understand what a context is. Do i have one? Why do i want one? I have a CF9 setup as J2EE which is what most people did for CF9, as I believe. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Mike, Context only applies if you install ColdFusion as a J2EE server instance, and you have a context to access that instance. If you only have a standalone / Multi (pre CF 10) then you will not need to worry about it, which I said earlier. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:12 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Andrew, thanks . I'm not trying to be stupid here, but I am not 'getting it' yet. the context if if your using an instance under a context. What does that mean? How to i know if i'm using a context?I just installed ColdFusion using the defaults that come with the jrun install. Cheers Mike Kear -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358520 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
So I hate to be keeping on about it but I dont understand what a context is. Do i have one? Why do i want one? A context root is a URL pattern to which all URLs identified as possibly to be processed by CF will conform. In the vast majority of cases, it's simply a single slash: / which means that every URL will be identified as possibly to be processed by CF. When you set up multiserver, the context root is / by default. The purpose of the context root in the larger picture is to let you have multiple J2EE instances on a single web server. Each J2EE instance associated with a single web server has to have a different context root, so that the web server can figure out which one should be processing which request. For example, let's say that I had two apps on myserver.com, and I wanted each of them to be processed by a separate J2EE instance: http://myserver.com/app1/ http://myserver.com/app2/ The context roots for the two instances would therefore be: /app1 /app2 Very few people use context roots with CF, because very few people are trying to run different applications with different CF instances connected to a single virtual web server. But, you might also use context roots to limit which URLs have to be processed by the CF web server module. For example, on the Adobe site, and the Macromedia site before it, for a long time (when they used CF) they used a context root of /cfusion for all the CF files. That way, the web server could easily identify whether files had to be sent to the CF web server module or not. Again, it's unlikely that you're using anything other than the default context root, though - and if you were, you'd know it because you'd have set it up in the first place. I have a CF9 setup as J2EE which is what most people did for CF9, as I believe. I don't think most people did that, actually. But maybe they should have! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358521 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Thanks Dave. That clears that up.Now I understand what 'context' means, I realise I set it up as you suggested.I didn't understand what context means because it's something i've never used, apart from setting up / as the context root as one of the many settings when I installed ColdFusion. Thanks for explaining that. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:50 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: So I hate to be keeping on about it but I dont understand what a context is. Do i have one? Why do i want one? A context root is a URL pattern to which all URLs identified as possibly to be processed by CF will conform. In the vast majority of cases, it's simply a single slash: [snip] Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358522 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
The administrator is found at http://localhost/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm and its physically at D:\Sites\webroot\htdocs\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: lol... np... Well what is the URL you access the Administrator with, does it have cfusion in it? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358523 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Dave answered what I was going to say next. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: The administrator is found at http://localhost/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm and its physically at D:\Sites\webroot\htdocs\CFIDE\administrator\index.cfm On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:48 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: lol... np... Well what is the URL you access the Administrator with, does it have cfusion in it? Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358524 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Thanks for explaining that. You're welcome! Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software 1-202-527-9569 http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358525 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
So far this has cost me about 8 hours of billable time to setup, and its only required because Adobe decided to take ColdFusion out of Dreamweaver, the tool I've been using for years and years. It's proving a BLOODY EXPENSIVE tool. A little bit of progress at last. I have to say this term root is causing me a lot of confusion - document root, server root, context root web root.which is which in any location in the server set up. There are so many possibilities at any point its very confusing. At last I have a setup that will give me 'run as' that opens my default browser and displays the page. For the record, even though I have a jrun setup, i found it will display in a browser if i dont have J2EE settings in the server setup.I still havent found a way to have it show the page in CFBuilder - it opens a new window in the default browser. No way yet found to open the file in any other browser. Perhaps when i get to the part about live update and mobile devices etc it will come clear. But debug doesnt work. It gives me an error message: Next to work on making the FTP work. (That took me about 5 minutes to get to work when I was learning Dreamweaver). But I'm sticking with it for now, and I'm still prepared to be convinced that ColdFusion Builder is a worthwhile IDE. But the product has a way to go to convince me yet. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Dave answered what I was going to say next. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358526 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Feel your pain Mike, but perseverance can fix that at times. The root, is what I stated earlier, when I said I usually just set it to the root for ColdFusion and that is the wwwroot in ColdFusion itself and not inetpub or your projects. Yes I agree this area is not well documented nor blogged, because people just don't use the line debugger and its power. I guess you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink it. JRun is J2EE. ColdFusion standalone still runs as a J2EE application, technically. I think your going to have issues with FTP, I tried it on the beta version and couldn't get it to work. You have to go an install the Eclipse plugin, as the previous FTP stuff was handled by Aptana. I guess Adobe figure that it is available as a plugin and didn't think about distributing it with Eclipse. Unless there is some licensing issues doing that. But in Eclipse you will need to enter the repository for Eclipse and find the Remote Services something or other, also known as RSE. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: So far this has cost me about 8 hours of billable time to setup, and its only required because Adobe decided to take ColdFusion out of Dreamweaver, the tool I've been using for years and years. It's proving a BLOODY EXPENSIVE tool. A little bit of progress at last. I have to say this term root is causing me a lot of confusion - document root, server root, context root web root.which is which in any location in the server set up. There are so many possibilities at any point its very confusing. At last I have a setup that will give me 'run as' that opens my default browser and displays the page. For the record, even though I have a jrun setup, i found it will display in a browser if i dont have J2EE settings in the server setup.I still havent found a way to have it show the page in CFBuilder - it opens a new window in the default browser. No way yet found to open the file in any other browser. Perhaps when i get to the part about live update and mobile devices etc it will come clear. But debug doesnt work. It gives me an error message: Next to work on making the FTP work. (That took me about 5 minutes to get to work when I was learning Dreamweaver). But I'm sticking with it for now, and I'm still prepared to be convinced that ColdFusion Builder is a worthwhile IDE. But the product has a way to go to convince me yet. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Dave answered what I was going to say next. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358527 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
I've had enough of this damned ColdFusion Builder 3 for now. It's just too bloody frustrating. Maybe I might come back to it, maybe not. The FTP/Synchronise thing is just barely something you would expect a beginner programmer to produce.Trying to make it work is groping in the dark because the help is not related to this product. Instructions on setting up FTP begins : 1. Right-click the project in the Navigator view. 2. Click Synchronize Create New Synchronize Connection. But there's no Synchonize option to choose from. So it's a loser right there.The only thing i can find about uploading files to the remote server is Export... but there's no help file for that. Therefore what information goes where is just a guess. But dont get anything wrong, because you can't change anything. There's no way to edit your ftp settings.And what's worse once you've set up a ftp spec for a site, you can't edit it or set up another one with that same address. Too bad if you have to change your password for any reason.And you can't delete an existing one and set it up again if you got your guess wrong the first time. In Dreamweaver, to upload a modified file to the site takes 2 clicks. Select the file, then click the up arrow. It automatically creates folders on the remote server if the folder doesnt exist and just puts the modified file in there. In ColdFusion Builder - it's a bloody complicated process. Every time you try to export a file, it downloads the whole file directory from the remote site. If there are hundreds of files on that site, you have to wait while it downloads all the file names, dates, etc. It doesnt remember the last one - upload a file, make a single little change, wait while it downloads the directory of the remote site all over again, then take a few seconds to upload your revised file.In one case, it takes 5 minutes to upload a 15kb file because of all that fussing about. I made an error the first time I set up export specs (probably forgot a trailing '/' or something) and now I can't fix it, can't delete it and do it again, can't synchonise at all. That site is no longer able to be uploaded from ColdFusion Builder 3. I'm trying really hard, because I honestly want to be open minded about it. But I'm not becoming a fan of ColdFusion Builder 3 yet. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Feel your pain Mike, but perseverance can fix that at times. The root, is what I stated earlier, when I said I usually just set it to the root for ColdFusion and that is the wwwroot in ColdFusion itself and not inetpub or your projects. Yes I agree this area is not well documented nor blogged, because people just don't use the line debugger and its power. I guess you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink it. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358528 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Mikenot that this helps you in anyway, but all your issues is why I use code editors for writing code - period I use an FTP client for moving files and I use SVN for knowing what to upload I use a browser for testing - never the browser in a code editor way I've always developed that way and short of a few how do they do it in this editor issues, I've never been sidelined like you have been Different strokes for different folks for sure - just an observation from someone who develops differently I also don't have 39 projects going at one time - large plodding projects ;-) Just a thoughtyou may find additional help if you search for how to do things in Eclipse - I hope CFBuilder isn't too big of a departure from what it's built on top of!! Best of luck Cheers *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com http://www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com http://www.fisheryfacts.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. On 14-05-01 02:42 PM, Mike K wrote: I've had enough of this damned ColdFusion Builder 3 for now. It's just too bloody frustrating. Maybe I might come back to it, maybe not. The FTP/Synchronise thing is just barely something you would expect a beginner programmer to produce.Trying to make it work is groping in the dark because the help is not related to this product. Instructions on setting up FTP begins : 1. Right-click the project in the Navigator view. 2. Click Synchronize Create New Synchronize Connection. But there's no Synchonize option to choose from. So it's a loser right there.The only thing i can find about uploading files to the remote server is Export... but there's no help file for that. Therefore what information goes where is just a guess. But dont get anything wrong, because you can't change anything. There's no way to edit your ftp settings.And what's worse once you've set up a ftp spec for a site, you can't edit it or set up another one with that same address. Too bad if you have to change your password for any reason.And you can't delete an existing one and set it up again if you got your guess wrong the first time. In Dreamweaver, to upload a modified file to the site takes 2 clicks. Select the file, then click the up arrow. It automatically creates folders on the remote server if the folder doesnt exist and just puts the modified file in there. In ColdFusion Builder - it's a bloody complicated process. Every time you try to export a file, it downloads the whole file directory from the remote site. If there are hundreds of files on that site, you have to wait while it downloads all the file names, dates, etc. It doesnt remember the last one - upload a file, make a single little change, wait while it downloads the directory of the remote site all over again, then take a few seconds to upload your revised file.In one case, it takes 5 minutes to upload a 15kb file because of all that fussing about. I made an error the first time I set up export specs (probably forgot a trailing '/' or something) and now I can't fix it, can't delete it and do it again, can't synchonise at all. That site is no longer able to be uploaded from ColdFusion Builder 3. I'm trying really hard, because I honestly want to be open minded about it. But I'm not becoming a fan of ColdFusion Builder 3 yet. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Feel your pain Mike, but perseverance can fix that at times. The root, is what I stated earlier, when I said I usually just set it to the root for ColdFusion and that is the wwwroot in ColdFusion itself and not inetpub or your projects. Yes I agree this area is not well documented nor blogged, because people just don't use the line debugger and its power. I guess you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink it. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Thanks Brian, I think you might be right. After all the 'mine's bigger than yours' and 'you should be using a REAL IDE' pi$$ing contests over the years between Eclipse users and Dreamweaver users, I figured since Adobe are ashamed of ColdFusion and dont want Dreamweaver users to be able to use it, I might as well see if the CF Builder approach was a better one. So far it's cost me over $1000 in lost time and I'm nowhere near to doing with it what I used to do in Dreamweaver. Sadly I can't go back to Dreamweaver, because the last update to the CC version broke it and the CS6 versions so that when you use .cfm or .cfc files it can take as long as 5 minutes to switch between two open files. I dont know what it's doing in the background. Maybe spellchecking War and Peace or something. So I have to persevere. But I'm NOT a happy camper!! I think they should have waited a bit longer to release the new version until someone had actually used it in the wild. Didn't they do any beta testing? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Mikenot that this helps you in anyway, but all your issues is why I use code editors for writing code - period I use an FTP client for moving files and I use SVN for knowing what to upload Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Yep...all that CC crapola is why I stick with Eclipse/CFEclipse - at least it's free and won't ever vanish ;-) I did see someone suggest Sublimeand I've had some folks I'm considering hiring mention it as well - the one thing I can say about it is it opens FAST! I haven't had the time to dig in yetbut it could be my new free tool ;-) But heyif it helps you feel betterthe VM I use for my dev work has decided to randomly blue screen and restart as of yesterday - so I'm feelin some pain too...LOL Cheers *Bryan Stevenson*B.Comm. President CEO Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. - makers of FACTS^(TM) phone: 250.480.0642 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: br...@electricedgesystems.com mailto:br...@electricedgesystems.com web: www.electricedgesystems.com http://www.electricedgesystems.com and www.fisheryfacts.com http://www.fisheryfacts.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -CONFIDENTIALITY-- This message, including any attachments, is confidential and may contain information that is privileged or exempt from disclosure. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed unless expressly authorized otherwise by the sender. If you are not an authorized recipient, please notify the sender immediately and permanently destroy all copies of this message and attachments. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358531 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Mike, First let me be very clear, ColdFusion Builder doesn't come with any FTP support. This is an eclipse plugin that needs to be added to the installation. Here is a snippet from SO that explains this. But again, you would do yourself a huge favor if your used something like Scooters Beyond Compare, it is the best thing since sliced bread. As for browsing your website, Eclipse also comes with a web Browser, all you need to do is open that view and browse to the website in question. Again I can't stress enough how the whole display the your page in CFB was a shame to begin with as it never worked for thr majority of people any way. The reason is because the project needs to be setup in a certain way, anyway long story short is gone and good riddance to that crap from CFB. CFB has the edge on everyone else because it has a library of plugins that can be added to do your workflow with, this is what makes CFB more appealing than the likes of sublime etc. But you do what you need to do, if your expecting an editor to do the FTP stuff for you, then fine go grab the basic FTP plugins and use them, but you will be using something that is not powerful or fully configurable as Beyond Compare. *Eclipse natively supports FTP and SSH. Aptana is not necessary.* *Native FTP and SSH support in Eclipse is in the Remote System Explorer End-User Runtime Plugin.* *Install it through Eclipse itself. These instructions may vary slightly with your version of Eclipse:* 1. *Go to 'Help' - 'Install New Software' (in older Eclipses, this is called something a bit different)* 2. *In the 'Work with:' drop-down, select your version's plugin release site. Example: for Kepler, this is Kepler - http://download.eclipse.org/releases/kepler http://download.eclipse.org/releases/kepler* 3. *In the filter field, type 'remote'.* 4. *Check the box next to 'Remote System Explorer End-User Runtime'* 5. *Click 'Next'. It should now download and install.* 6. *After install, Eclipse may want to restart.* *Using it, in Eclipse:* 1. *Window - Open Perspective - (perhaps select 'Other') - Remote System Explorer* 2. *File - New - Other - Remote System Explorer (folder) - Connection (or type Connection into the filter field)* 3. *Choose FTP from the 'Select Remote System Type' panel.* 4. *Fill in your FTP host info in the next panel (username and password come later).* 5. *In the Remote Systems panel, right-click the hostname and click 'connect'.* 6. *Enter username + password and you're good!* 7. *Well, not exactly 'good'. The RSE system is fairly unusual, but you're connected.* 8. *And you're one smart cookie! You'll figure out the rest.* *Edit: To change the default port, follow the instructions on this page:http://ikool.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/tips-to-access-ftpssh-on-different-ports-using-eclipse-rse/ http://ikool.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/tips-to-access-ftpssh-on-different-ports-using-eclipse-rse/* Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: I've had enough of this damned ColdFusion Builder 3 for now. It's just too bloody frustrating. Maybe I might come back to it, maybe not. The FTP/Synchronise thing is just barely something you would expect a beginner programmer to produce.Trying to make it work is groping in the dark because the help is not related to this product. Instructions on setting up FTP begins : 1. Right-click the project in the Navigator view. 2. Click Synchronize Create New Synchronize Connection. But there's no Synchonize option to choose from. So it's a loser right there.The only thing i can find about uploading files to the remote server is Export... but there's no help file for that. Therefore what information goes where is just a guess. But dont get anything wrong, because you can't change anything. There's no way to edit your ftp settings.And what's worse once you've set up a ftp spec for a site, you can't edit it or set up another one with that same address. Too bad if you have to change your password for any reason.And you can't delete an existing one and set it up again if you got your guess wrong the first time. In Dreamweaver, to upload a modified file to the site takes 2 clicks. Select the file, then click the up arrow. It automatically creates folders on the remote server if the folder doesnt exist and just puts the modified file in there. In ColdFusion Builder - it's a bloody complicated process. Every time you try to export a file, it downloads the whole file directory from the remote site. If there are hundreds of files on that site, you have to wait while it downloads all the file names, dates, etc. It doesnt remember the last one - upload a file, make a single little change, wait while it downloads the
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Now come on the day Adobe has things like testing an integration testing will be the day I die... I mean how can a company be told that there is a serious backwards compatibility issue over 9 months ago, to ignore that and never fix it. Yet ColdFusion 11 is now out in the wild and anything using ORM and Events in ColdFusion from ColdBox will not work on ColdFusion 11 because of this major flaw. You should know Adobe by now. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Brian, I think you might be right. After all the 'mine's bigger than yours' and 'you should be using a REAL IDE' pi$$ing contests over the years between Eclipse users and Dreamweaver users, I figured since Adobe are ashamed of ColdFusion and dont want Dreamweaver users to be able to use it, I might as well see if the CF Builder approach was a better one. So far it's cost me over $1000 in lost time and I'm nowhere near to doing with it what I used to do in Dreamweaver. Sadly I can't go back to Dreamweaver, because the last update to the CC version broke it and the CS6 versions so that when you use .cfm or .cfc files it can take as long as 5 minutes to switch between two open files. I dont know what it's doing in the background. Maybe spellchecking War and Peace or something. So I have to persevere. But I'm NOT a happy camper!! I think they should have waited a bit longer to release the new version until someone had actually used it in the wild. Didn't they do any beta testing? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bryan Stevenson br...@electricedgesystems.com wrote: Mikenot that this helps you in anyway, but all your issues is why I use code editors for writing code - period I use an FTP client for moving files and I use SVN for knowing what to upload Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358533 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Thanks Andrew. I bow to your experience and wisdom. I was just going on the words of Adobe where they have videos telling about the synchronisation and the ftp settings etc in the app.There's my stupidity. I should know better than to believe anything those buggers say. They have fallen short so many times I dont know why I keep getting sucked in by them. Jeez on an area where I do have considerable experience and expertise, their major accounts sales effort is not even up to the standard of basic learner beginner sales rep standard. And that's a long way ahead of their marketing. So why I thought their IDE would be of a higher standard when they've just gone and broken their main development tool (Dreamweaver) i dont know. More fool me. Thanks for tolerating me and not calling me a fool. I'll do that all by myself. Cheers Mike Kear Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358534 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Are they older videos though? Remember that a lot of functionality was rewriting, because it was part of the Aptana application that CFB was built on. Since Adobe removed this, things like FTP have gone out the window. Look to be honest, removing Aptana is the best thing Adobe could have done. But they should have made sure all the functionality that it removes should have been re-added back to CFB 3.0. CFB is actually a decent editor now, since Apatana has been taken out. A lot of the previous bugs where due to this over priced junk that Adobe decided to save time and money with. But as far as being a higher standard *sigh* That is a misconception that Adobe have been very good at pulling the wool over our eyes with. But there attitude will always be, well we gave you mobile development. But where CFB shines, is the vast library of plugins for any development. It is the only editor I use, for all my development in a one stop shop. Try that with Dreamweaver and sublime etc. You can't and Adobe know this. Liek dreamweaver, how do I control all my subversion or git in dreamweaver, you just can't do it. Line debugging, just can't do it in dreaweaver. If you have been used to something like DW then the learning curve going forward is always going to be huge, nothing you do can change that but learn faster. I only wish that Scooter, would release a version of their great software as an eclipse plugin. It is as the moment the only time I exit the IDE, these days. But I would even go as far as to say that DW file sync, is not feature rich and is very basic file sync at best. I doubt it could do line sync'ing in any way shape or form. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Andrew. I bow to your experience and wisdom. I was just going on the words of Adobe where they have videos telling about the synchronisation and the ftp settings etc in the app.There's my stupidity. I should know better than to believe anything those buggers say. They have fallen short so many times I dont know why I keep getting sucked in by them. Jeez on an area where I do have considerable experience and expertise, their major accounts sales effort is not even up to the standard of basic learner beginner sales rep standard. And that's a long way ahead of their marketing. So why I thought their IDE would be of a higher standard when they've just gone and broken their main development tool (Dreamweaver) i dont know. More fool me. Thanks for tolerating me and not calling me a fool. I'll do that all by myself. Cheers Mike Kear Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Everything I've seen so far seems to assume I'm working for a company with one web site. There's nothing I've found so far showing how to set it up for multiple web sites. I thought I'd done it right, but apparently not, because I can't preview any pages. I've seen a video on the Adobe web site about using CF Builder for Dreamweaver users.The guy just clicks a tab at the bottom of the screen called Safari and sees the page run right in the window.I can't find that tab or any menu item or link where I can do the same thing. So after messing about with this damn thing for 4 hours now, I've got nowhere.Can't preview a page. Can't upload anything to the server. It's just an expensive text editor so far. I can't use code insight either because unless I've missed something, it doesnt insight into CFCs instantiated with Coldspring. Has anyone managed to make CFBuilder introspect CFCs instantiated with ColdSpring? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358492 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Mike, I user CFB / Eclipse for rmultiple clients all the time. You simply create a new project (File -- New -- ColdFusion Project) for each site that you are working on. In the navigator pane, you will see each project in a separate folder. I then create a working set under the filter drop-down (the little down arrow in the top right of the navigation pane) for each project. When I select a working set, it hides all my other project folders. For CFC insight, you simply need to create a CFC Variable Mapping in the projects properties. Just right click on the project name and choose properties. From there, click on the CFC Mappings link and create the mapping. Once you have done so, you will get code insight for your CFC even if it is instantiated with ColdSpring. As for the preview button, I know I used to have it in CFB 2, but I don't see it in CFB 3. However, I have not created a server profile and assigned it to a project, that may make the difference. However, even when I had it in CFB 2, I never used it because I typically use a front-end controller, either a a full framework or a slimmed down one that I created, so the preview button didn't do me any good when working on an event action page since the page would error if not called through the controller. So I always just keep a browser open and tab back and forth between the browser and the editor. Hope this helps. On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Everything I've seen so far seems to assume I'm working for a company with one web site. There's nothing I've found so far showing how to set it up for multiple web sites. I thought I'd done it right, but apparently not, because I can't preview any pages. I've seen a video on the Adobe web site about using CF Builder for Dreamweaver users.The guy just clicks a tab at the bottom of the screen called Safari and sees the page run right in the window.I can't find that tab or any menu item or link where I can do the same thing. So after messing about with this damn thing for 4 hours now, I've got nowhere.Can't preview a page. Can't upload anything to the server. It's just an expensive text editor so far. I can't use code insight either because unless I've missed something, it doesnt insight into CFCs instantiated with Coldspring. Has anyone managed to make CFBuilder introspect CFCs instantiated with ColdSpring? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358493 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I have about 20 client Projects is CF Builder. You need to create Projects and basically NEVER use the File view. Use the Navigator pane and Create New ColdFusion Project. Point it as your code and you should be good to go from there. Eclipse is the base platform here and everything is Project based. Once you have that setup everything else should start working with minimal config. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Everything I've seen so far seems to assume I'm working for a company with one web site. There's nothing I've found so far showing how to set it up for multiple web sites. I thought I'd done it right, but apparently not, because I can't preview any pages. I've seen a video on the Adobe web site about using CF Builder for Dreamweaver users.The guy just clicks a tab at the bottom of the screen called Safari and sees the page run right in the window.I can't find that tab or any menu item or link where I can do the same thing. So after messing about with this damn thing for 4 hours now, I've got nowhere.Can't preview a page. Can't upload anything to the server. It's just an expensive text editor so far. I can't use code insight either because unless I've missed something, it doesnt insight into CFCs instantiated with Coldspring. Has anyone managed to make CFBuilder introspect CFCs instantiated with ColdSpring? -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358494 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Nothing beats good old CF Studio ! ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358495 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Please - I dont want this to degenerate into a 'my ide is better than your ide'. I'm not going back to CF Studio. I dont REALLY even want to leave Dreamweaver - i dont have the time to learn a new IDE now but I'm forced to because Adobe wont allow sensible use of Dreamweaver for ColdFusion even though they have every other technology known to man in there. Thank you Will. Actually I'm not using file view - I'm still learning the terminology for CFBuilder 3. I have made a project for one of my existing sites. I can see all my files there on my dev machine. But I can't make it link to the remote (production) server so I can upload files.But when I do try to export using the FTP setup, i get an error message that says /AFPCMS6p2/wwwroot is already mapped to org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider(the /AFPCMS6p2/root is the root folder of my site on my dev machine) I have no idea what the org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider is referring to. Can't find a reference to that anywhere. And when I cancel out of that after getting the error, i get another message saying should the deployment mapping specified in the wizard be remembered? Yes/No. If i select 'no' i just get the message back again. It will only go away if i answer 'yes'. Thank you Dean. You're very helpful too. I get the project concept. That makes sense. Soon as i created a second project I could see how that aspect works. What I dont get is how CF Builder will introspect CFCs instantiated by Coldspring. I call those in my pages with something like: usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) but when I do, there is no sign of any kind of hinting or introspection or code insight.It just stares at me. I put the period after the string above, hoping that i'd see a drop down list of the available methods as it does in the video, but no such luck. So right now, what we're looking at is a very expensive text editor that lots of other people say has the potential to save me a lot of work and make things happen faster. But which isnt showing me any such benefits. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:00 AM, wrote: Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Nothing beats good old CF Studio ! ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358496 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Mike, There are a few things that you haven't said if you have setup or not, I have never liked the way CFB defines things and where it is all over the place. Anyway lets start with a few basics. 1) Server setup. When setting up a server in CFB you need to do this for each and every IP and Port. In here you tell it where your website files are located and where CF is located, as well as other things. That part is important for what your looking for. 2) Project Setup It sounds like you have the basics of the project setup. But you need to tell the project which server your using, which is done by RMB on the project and going to properies, which from here you can go into the settings and select which server the project is to use. Also in the project settings in the above step, you also can tell it any mappings you need the IDE to know about, so in the example of custom mappings they can also be added at the above step. Hopefully that can get you going some more, if not ping me. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Please - I dont want this to degenerate into a 'my ide is better than your ide'. I'm not going back to CF Studio. I dont REALLY even want to leave Dreamweaver - i dont have the time to learn a new IDE now but I'm forced to because Adobe wont allow sensible use of Dreamweaver for ColdFusion even though they have every other technology known to man in there. Thank you Will. Actually I'm not using file view - I'm still learning the terminology for CFBuilder 3. I have made a project for one of my existing sites. I can see all my files there on my dev machine. But I can't make it link to the remote (production) server so I can upload files.But when I do try to export using the FTP setup, i get an error message that says /AFPCMS6p2/wwwroot is already mapped to org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider(the /AFPCMS6p2/root is the root folder of my site on my dev machine) I have no idea what the org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider is referring to. Can't find a reference to that anywhere. And when I cancel out of that after getting the error, i get another message saying should the deployment mapping specified in the wizard be remembered? Yes/No. If i select 'no' i just get the message back again. It will only go away if i answer 'yes'. Thank you Dean. You're very helpful too. I get the project concept. That makes sense. Soon as i created a second project I could see how that aspect works. What I dont get is how CF Builder will introspect CFCs instantiated by Coldspring. I call those in my pages with something like: usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) but when I do, there is no sign of any kind of hinting or introspection or code insight.It just stares at me. I put the period after the string above, hoping that i'd see a drop down list of the available methods as it does in the video, but no such luck. So right now, what we're looking at is a very expensive text editor that lots of other people say has the potential to save me a lot of work and make things happen faster. But which isnt showing me any such benefits. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:00 AM, wrote: Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Nothing beats good old CF Studio ! ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358497 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Actually I only have ColdFusion set up on my desktop machine (at least as far as this issue is concerned anyway) . It's a high end standalone PC. I dont have multiple ips and server instances.I just set it up as localhost/port 80 / c:\jrun4 No? I dont recall entering any ip addresses but the ip address of this box on my local network is 10.1.1.9 and that went in somewhere -I think ColdFusion Builder must have picked that up by itself.Not sure what happens if i reboot my router and get a new ip for that machine. I'm not sure why I'd have multiple servers, unless i have different versions of CF or maybe Railo as well on the box.Is there any other reason to have multiple servers? Does anyone know if it's possible to have the page run inside CF Builder? Or can i stop looking because it's been removed from version 2 to version 3? Cheers Mike Kear On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.auwrote: Mike, There are a few things that you haven't said if you have setup or not, I have never liked the way CFB defines things and where it is all over the place. Anyway lets start with a few basics. 1) Server setup. When setting up a server in CFB you need to do this for each and every IP and Port. In here you tell it where your website files are located and where CF is located, as well as other things. That part is important for what your looking for. 2) Project Setup It sounds like you have the basics of the project setup. But you need to tell the project which server your using, which is done by RMB on the project and going to properies, which from here you can go into the settings and select which server the project is to use. Also in the project settings in the above step, you also can tell it any mappings you need the IDE to know about, so in the example of custom mappings they can also be added at the above step. Hopefully that can get you going some more, if not ping me. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Please - I dont want this to degenerate into a 'my ide is better than your ide'. I'm not going back to CF Studio. I dont REALLY even want to leave Dreamweaver - i dont have the time to learn a new IDE now but I'm forced to because Adobe wont allow sensible use of Dreamweaver for ColdFusion even though they have every other technology known to man in there. Thank you Will. Actually I'm not using file view - I'm still learning the terminology for CFBuilder 3. I have made a project for one of my existing sites. I can see all my files there on my dev machine. But I can't make it link to the remote (production) server so I can upload files.But when I do try to export using the FTP setup, i get an error message that says /AFPCMS6p2/wwwroot is already mapped to org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider(the /AFPCMS6p2/root is the root folder of my site on my dev machine) I have no idea what the org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider is referring to. Can't find a reference to that anywhere. And when I cancel out of that after getting the error, i get another message saying should the deployment mapping specified in the wizard be remembered? Yes/No. If i select 'no' i just get the message back again. It will only go away if i answer 'yes'. Thank you Dean. You're very helpful too. I get the project concept. That makes sense. Soon as i created a second project I could see how that aspect works. What I dont get is how CF Builder will introspect CFCs instantiated by Coldspring. I call those in my pages with something like: usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) but when I do, there is no sign of any kind of hinting or introspection or code insight.It just stares at me. I put the period after the string above, hoping that i'd see a drop down list of the available methods as it does in the video, but no such luck. So right now, what we're looking at is a very expensive text editor that lots of other people say has the potential to save me a lot of work and make things happen faster. But which isnt showing me any such benefits. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:00 AM, wrote: Does anyone actually use CF Builder for multiple projects? Nothing beats good old CF Studio ! ;-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:358499 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: More CFBuilder 3 frustration
Actually that was probably a little vague, what I mean is if you need to connect to more than website using the same ColdFusion instance. In CFB you will need to add a server connection for each website. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I only have ColdFusion set up on my desktop machine (at least as far as this issue is concerned anyway) . It's a high end standalone PC. I dont have multiple ips and server instances.I just set it up as localhost/port 80 / c:\jrun4 No? I dont recall entering any ip addresses but the ip address of this box on my local network is 10.1.1.9 and that went in somewhere -I think ColdFusion Builder must have picked that up by itself.Not sure what happens if i reboot my router and get a new ip for that machine. I'm not sure why I'd have multiple servers, unless i have different versions of CF or maybe Railo as well on the box.Is there any other reason to have multiple servers? Does anyone know if it's possible to have the page run inside CF Builder? Or can i stop looking because it's been removed from version 2 to version 3? Cheers Mike Kear On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote: Mike, There are a few things that you haven't said if you have setup or not, I have never liked the way CFB defines things and where it is all over the place. Anyway lets start with a few basics. 1) Server setup. When setting up a server in CFB you need to do this for each and every IP and Port. In here you tell it where your website files are located and where CF is located, as well as other things. That part is important for what your looking for. 2) Project Setup It sounds like you have the basics of the project setup. But you need to tell the project which server your using, which is done by RMB on the project and going to properies, which from here you can go into the settings and select which server the project is to use. Also in the project settings in the above step, you also can tell it any mappings you need the IDE to know about, so in the example of custom mappings they can also be added at the above step. Hopefully that can get you going some more, if not ping me. Regards, Andrew Scott WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/ Google+: http://plus.google.com/113032480415921517411 On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Mike K afpwebwo...@gmail.com wrote: Please - I dont want this to degenerate into a 'my ide is better than your ide'. I'm not going back to CF Studio. I dont REALLY even want to leave Dreamweaver - i dont have the time to learn a new IDE now but I'm forced to because Adobe wont allow sensible use of Dreamweaver for ColdFusion even though they have every other technology known to man in there. Thank you Will. Actually I'm not using file view - I'm still learning the terminology for CFBuilder 3. I have made a project for one of my existing sites. I can see all my files there on my dev machine. But I can't make it link to the remote (production) server so I can upload files.But when I do try to export using the FTP setup, i get an error message that says /AFPCMS6p2/wwwroot is already mapped to org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider(the /AFPCMS6p2/root is the root folder of my site on my dev machine) I have no idea what the org.eclipse.team.ftp.FTPDeploymentProvider is referring to. Can't find a reference to that anywhere. And when I cancel out of that after getting the error, i get another message saying should the deployment mapping specified in the wizard be remembered? Yes/No. If i select 'no' i just get the message back again. It will only go away if i answer 'yes'. Thank you Dean. You're very helpful too. I get the project concept. That makes sense. Soon as i created a second project I could see how that aspect works. What I dont get is how CF Builder will introspect CFCs instantiated by Coldspring. I call those in my pages with something like: usersDAO = application.beanfactory.getbean(usersDAO) but when I do, there is no sign of any kind of hinting or introspection or code insight.It just stares at me. I put the period after the string above, hoping that i'd see a drop down list of the available methods as it does in the video, but no such luck. So right now, what we're looking at is a very expensive text editor that lots of other people say has the potential to save me a lot of work and make things happen faster. But which isnt showing me any such benefits. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:00 AM, wrote: Does anyone actually use CF Builder for
