New 64-bit Dev Server
I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the various software but any other input would be great. Thanks. -- Adrian Lynch Property Owl Ltd 84 Mendip Court, Chatfield Road, London, SW11 3UZ 020 7924 6419 ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291826 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: New 64-bit Dev Server
Exchange, SQL, and CF on the same box? That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen! Here are a few things that jumped into my head when I read your post: What happens when you're debugging code that keeps crashing the server, and you have to reboot a dozen times a day (from an Exchange perspective)? What happens when the latest patch for SQL Server isn't compatible with Exchange (why would it be?), and it kills your email server? SQL Server will eat as much memory as it can get its hands on, how will that affect your Exchange server? How much memory/hard drive space are you going to have to have to support a dev. appication server, dev. database server, and production (I assume) email server? Personally, I would keep Exchange off of the box. The CF/SQL setup wouldn't be too bad, but there's no way I would load a production email server on to the same box. That's just my $.02, though. Thanks, Eric Adrian Lynch wrote: > I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and > SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a > requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. > > Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with > this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the > various software but any other input would be great. > > Thanks. > ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291830 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: New 64-bit Dev Server
Of course if the load is not large and the machine is powerful, you can always put everything in it's own VM> Russ > -Original Message- > From: Eric Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:48 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: New 64-bit Dev Server > > Exchange, SQL, and CF on the same box? That sounds like a disaster > waiting to happen! Here are a few things that jumped into my head when > I read your post: > > What happens when you're debugging code that keeps crashing the server, > and you have to reboot a dozen times a day (from an Exchange perspective)? > > What happens when the latest patch for SQL Server isn't compatible with > Exchange (why would it be?), and it kills your email server? > > SQL Server will eat as much memory as it can get its hands on, how will > that affect your Exchange server? > > How much memory/hard drive space are you going to have to have to > support a dev. appication server, dev. database server, and production > (I assume) email server? > > Personally, I would keep Exchange off of the box. The CF/SQL setup > wouldn't be too bad, but there's no way I would load a production email > server on to the same box. That's just my $.02, though. > > Thanks, > > Eric > > Adrian Lynch wrote: > > I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and > > SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a > > requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with > > this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the > > various software but any other input would be great. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291831 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: New 64-bit Dev Server
Speaking to one point here I'm not a fan of putting all these together on the same box. In particular I don't like bundling the web server and DB server together. But in regard to your point about Exchange and SQL server stepping on each other - that's not terribly likely. MS "small business server" is exactly this bundle - SQL + exchange. And they work together fine. I don't like using such a DB since it shares resources with exchange (I prefer the DB to be isolated above all other components in the system) - but compatibilities between exchange would be less likely than some of your other points. -Mark -Original Message- From: Eric Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 9:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New 64-bit Dev Server Exchange, SQL, and CF on the same box? That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen! Here are a few things that jumped into my head when I read your post: What happens when you're debugging code that keeps crashing the server, and you have to reboot a dozen times a day (from an Exchange perspective)? What happens when the latest patch for SQL Server isn't compatible with Exchange (why would it be?), and it kills your email server? SQL Server will eat as much memory as it can get its hands on, how will that affect your Exchange server? How much memory/hard drive space are you going to have to have to support a dev. appication server, dev. database server, and production (I assume) email server? Personally, I would keep Exchange off of the box. The CF/SQL setup wouldn't be too bad, but there's no way I would load a production email server on to the same box. That's just my $.02, though. Thanks, Eric Adrian Lynch wrote: > I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and > SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a > requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. > > Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with > this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for > the various software but any other input would be great. > > Thanks. > ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291832 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New 64-bit Dev Server
That's a good point, I didn't think about virtualization. Also, I guess it would depend a lot on the specific situation. Are we talking about a small office with 10 email users, 1 web app. and 1 database? In that case, the one server setup may work just fine. But, if there are numerous Exchange users, several web apps. (or 1 really big one), and multiple databases, then I would still try to split it up some way. Thanks, Eric Russ wrote: > Of course if the load is not large and the machine is powerful, you can > always put everything in it's own VM> > > Russ > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Eric Cobb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 10:48 AM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: New 64-bit Dev Server >> >> Exchange, SQL, and CF on the same box? That sounds like a disaster >> waiting to happen! Here are a few things that jumped into my head when >> I read your post: >> >> What happens when you're debugging code that keeps crashing the server, >> and you have to reboot a dozen times a day (from an Exchange perspective)? >> >> What happens when the latest patch for SQL Server isn't compatible with >> Exchange (why would it be?), and it kills your email server? >> >> SQL Server will eat as much memory as it can get its hands on, how will >> that affect your Exchange server? >> >> How much memory/hard drive space are you going to have to have to >> support a dev. appication server, dev. database server, and production >> (I assume) email server? >> >> Personally, I would keep Exchange off of the box. The CF/SQL setup >> wouldn't be too bad, but there's no way I would load a production email >> server on to the same box. That's just my $.02, though. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Eric >> >> Adrian Lynch wrote: >>> I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and >>> SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a >>> requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. >>> >>> Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with >>> this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the >>> various software but any other input would be great. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >> >> > > ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291834 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: New 64-bit Dev Server
Thanks all. The reason for loading all this on one box is cost at the moment. It will be a half decent spec and there will be around 5 initial users moving up to 10-15 over the next six months. Will the fact that it's 64-bit Windows throw up any problems? The risks about patches breaking things rings true as I know one sys-admin who had a similar set-up and didn't patch SQL Server because it caused problems with Exchange (or the other way around). Adrian > I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and > SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a > requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. > > Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with > this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the > various software but any other input would be great. > > Thanks. > > -- > Adrian Lynch > ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291931 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New 64-bit Dev Server
Coldfusion will not install on a 64bit machine, it is not supported. On 10/24/07, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks all. > > The reason for loading all this on one box is cost at the moment. It will be > a half decent spec and there will be around 5 initial users moving up to > 10-15 over the next six months. > > Will the fact that it's 64-bit Windows throw up any problems? > > The risks about patches breaking things rings true as I know one sys-admin > who had a similar set-up and didn't patch SQL Server because it caused > problems with Exchange (or the other way around). > > Adrian > > > I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and > > SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a > > requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with > > this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the > > various software but any other input would be great. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Adrian Lynch > > > > > ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291933 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: New 64-bit Dev Server
http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/2/6/Connecting-ColdFusion-MX-7- To-64bit-IIS-6 It *will* install and evidently run fine, but you are right that it wont be 'supported' by Adobe. Chris Peterson Gainey IT Adobe Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer -Original Message- From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New 64-bit Dev Server Coldfusion will not install on a 64bit machine, it is not supported. On 10/24/07, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks all. > > The reason for loading all this on one box is cost at the moment. It will be > a half decent spec and there will be around 5 initial users moving up to > 10-15 over the next six months. > > Will the fact that it's 64-bit Windows throw up any problems? > > The risks about patches breaking things rings true as I know one sys-admin > who had a similar set-up and didn't patch SQL Server because it caused > problems with Exchange (or the other way around). > > Adrian > > > I'm setting up a new development server that'll house CF 8, IIS 6 and > > SQL 2005 on Windows 2003 64-bit. The reason for 64-bit is that it's a > > requirement for Exchange 2007 which will also be on this box. > > > > Can anyone shed some light on whether there will be any problems with > > this set up? I've been reading up on WoW64 and the requirements for the > > various software but any other input would be great. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > Adrian Lynch > > > > > ~| ColdFusion is delivering applications solutions at at top companies around the world in government. Find out how and where now http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/showcase/index.cfm?event=finder&productID=1522&loc=en_us Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
