RE: New CFFORM website
Good example. Thanks! --nimer -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website heres one maybe u can use mike, pretty simple but it has a few things that ppl seam to be having troubles with like adding text and using cfm logic. You can't see it in this example but it shows an error message if the login is incorrect. Also shows setting the form in a panel and use of colors to flava the form a bit. heres the live example http://jamwerx.com/test/loginform.cfm code: Members please sign in, non-members please Register Error! you were not found, please try again. From: "Mike Nimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website Sweet, The easiest would be to email me directly. One of these days I might set up a contribution form, for now the old school manual way is working fine. Granted, that is until I go on vacation and my email builds up, but what do you do ;) nimer -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website I actually just finally got a chance to check it out and I think you've done a great job. It looks fine and there are a lot of useful examples. I have some code that you might or might not be interested in using as one entry. It's a fairly simple view cart/ enter billing and shipping info checkout type of form, but I think it could save people a bunch of time. Would you prefer I email that directly to you, or are you planning on implementing some sort of contribution facility for registered members? I know a lot of you are playing around with the new cfforms right now and I hope a lot of people will work to contribute to the site. Thanks for your efforts, Ferg ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201159 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
I guess if you want to see the error message enter this http://jamwerx.com/test/loginform.cfm?badlogin=true havent messed with adding an image in there yet From: "Mike Nimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website Sweet, The easiest would be to email me directly. One of these days I might set up a contribution form, for now the old school manual way is working fine. Granted, that is until I go on vacation and my email builds up, but what do you do ;) nimer -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website I actually just finally got a chance to check it out and I think you've done a great job. It looks fine and there are a lot of useful examples. I have some code that you might or might not be interested in using as one entry. It's a fairly simple view cart/ enter billing and shipping info checkout type of form, but I think it could save people a bunch of time. Would you prefer I email that directly to you, or are you planning on implementing some sort of contribution facility for registered members? I know a lot of you are playing around with the new cfforms right now and I hope a lot of people will work to contribute to the site. Thanks for your efforts, Ferg ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201143 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
heres one maybe u can use mike, pretty simple but it has a few things that ppl seam to be having troubles with like adding text and using cfm logic. You can't see it in this example but it shows an error message if the login is incorrect. Also shows setting the form in a panel and use of colors to flava the form a bit. heres the live example http://jamwerx.com/test/loginform.cfm code: Members please sign in, non-members please Register Error! you were not found, please try again. From: "Mike Nimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 12:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website Sweet, The easiest would be to email me directly. One of these days I might set up a contribution form, for now the old school manual way is working fine. Granted, that is until I go on vacation and my email builds up, but what do you do ;) nimer -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website I actually just finally got a chance to check it out and I think you've done a great job. It looks fine and there are a lot of useful examples. I have some code that you might or might not be interested in using as one entry. It's a fairly simple view cart/ enter billing and shipping info checkout type of form, but I think it could save people a bunch of time. Would you prefer I email that directly to you, or are you planning on implementing some sort of contribution facility for registered members? I know a lot of you are playing around with the new cfforms right now and I hope a lot of people will work to contribute to the site. Thanks for your efforts, Ferg ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201142 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
Sweet, The easiest would be to email me directly. One of these days I might set up a contribution form, for now the old school manual way is working fine. Granted, that is until I go on vacation and my email builds up, but what do you do ;) nimer -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website I actually just finally got a chance to check it out and I think you've done a great job. It looks fine and there are a lot of useful examples. I have some code that you might or might not be interested in using as one entry. It's a fairly simple view cart/ enter billing and shipping info checkout type of form, but I think it could save people a bunch of time. Would you prefer I email that directly to you, or are you planning on implementing some sort of contribution facility for registered members? I know a lot of you are playing around with the new cfforms right now and I hope a lot of people will work to contribute to the site. Thanks for your efforts, Ferg ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201140 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
I actually just finally got a chance to check it out and I think you've done a great job. It looks fine and there are a lot of useful examples. I have some code that you might or might not be interested in using as one entry. It's a fairly simple view cart/ enter billing and shipping info checkout type of form, but I think it could save people a bunch of time. Would you prefer I email that directly to you, or are you planning on implementing some sort of contribution facility for registered members? I know a lot of you are playing around with the new cfforms right now and I hope a lot of people will work to contribute to the site. Thanks for your efforts, Ferg ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201017 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
Thanks Jim, well said! Btw, you've made Angie's day too (my "super model class" girlfriend ) Reading this thread, I just wanted to jump. In case there is any confusion, cfform.com and mikenimer.com are both personal sites that I have put together in my spare time. Luckily for all of us, macromedia gives it's employees a long leash and let's us run our own sites. As for the "clumsy-ness" of the examples. They are, as others have pointed out, quick and dirty bare-bones examples. That's the point. No clutter just direct and to the point. I don't want to confuse the example with extra fluff hiding the code you need. This was the same goal when I put together the Code Snippet explorer for CF7 (if you haven't checked it out you should). Besides I'm a coder not a designer, you don't want to see me try to design a site, trust me. (I had a friend help with cfform.com) However, if anyone wants to take one of the examples tweak it (fix a bug, make it work in firefox, etc..) and send it over, I'll be more then happy to update the example or post it as a new example. Same is true for any new items too. Otherwise, thanks for the support guys. Glad to hear that cfform.com is a good idea and helps the community. Please keep the comments, idea, bugs, anything else you think of flowing. Just email me if you see or think of anything for the site. ---nimer -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New CFFORM website > Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow > sponsored or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. Probably not. I don'y know Mike all that well, but I think perhaps well enough to dicuss this (he'll correct me if I'm wrong). Mike is very lucky in that he gets paid to do something he loves. He's a big fat geek. (At heart, at least, in real life he's an clean-cut, athletic, outdoors lover that dates super model class women. So let's just say that Mike is REALLY lucky). Anyway - Mike's a geek. He's the kind of geek that stays up late at night learning that new thing or putting together a program to do that thing he could have finished by hand hours earlier. This new forms stuff was very much his baby. I'm assuming that he put in at least as much of his own time on the functionality as he did company time - he's that excited by the stuff. So now that the feature is out and all you people have your grubby little hands all over his brain-child he wants to see what you're doing with it. So he set up a site. It has nothing to do with Macromedia at all - it has everything to do with his excitement for the feature and its potential. He did the site, on his own, because this was his "thing" and he wanted to see it blossom. (I could be wrong in all of that, but I very much doubt it.) Essentially Macromedia doesn't need to "sponsor" sites like this because they're intelligent enough to hire (or keep in Mike's case) people that are so into this stuff that they'll do it for them. All Macromedia has to do is give their people a long enough leash and stay out of the way. By doing that they allow people like Mike, Ben, Sean, etc to effectively double their productivity for no money. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200654 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
I like the previous idea about the bookmarks a lot :X Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 - Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl - -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 30 maart 2005 0:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New CFFORM website On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:35:47 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um, I know that, what I meant was, what does the "markme" mean in the domain > name? Ah, sorry... It turns out there's an interesting story behind the domain name! Mike Chambers owned it before he joined Macromedia. He intended it to be a central bookmark storage website - websites could carry a "Mark Me!" button and it would store the link on the markme website... Later the site became a popular community site for Generator... Then, after Mike joined MM, it became the fledgling Macromedia weblog site and just sort of grew... In due course, the weblogs will move to macromedia.com subdomain (and there will be a new version of the news aggregator too with lots of spiffy new features - Christian and Mike have been hard at work!). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200645 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:35:47 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Um, I know that, what I meant was, what does the "markme" mean in the domain > name? Ah, sorry... It turns out there's an interesting story behind the domain name! Mike Chambers owned it before he joined Macromedia. He intended it to be a central bookmark storage website - websites could carry a "Mark Me!" button and it would store the link on the markme website... Later the site became a popular community site for Generator... Then, after Mike joined MM, it became the fledgling Macromedia weblog site and just sort of grew... In due course, the weblogs will move to macromedia.com subdomain (and there will be a new version of the news aggregator too with lots of spiffy new features - Christian and Mike have been hard at work!). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200594 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
A quote from the home page of my own personal site: "If this looks plain and ugly ... that means I have work to do. Never trust a web designer/programmer with a gorgeous, up-to-date site. Whoever built it had unbilled time on their hands." With that said I found cfform.com looked pretty nice. And the whole friggin' concept is so very, very much needed. A devex for cfform tricks. Brilliant! (*clink*) My hat's off to the guys taking the time out of their own day to help us all out. If there are errors in there I'm sure there are plenty of people with too much time on their hands (this is post #31 in this thread) who are smart enough to fix them and generous enough to share. -- --mattRobertson-- Janitor, MSB Web Systems mysecretbase.com ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200477 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
Relax, guys. It has not been my intention to put anyone down. On the contrary, it was constructive criticism and nothing else. Let's be a family again; the sites are beautiful: no flaws are perceived and no improvement is necessary. We can all now go back to our "real" jobs. :-) >Wrong. It's Mike's site, he worked on it, and he arranged the hosting. It is >not a Macromedia site, just like my sites are not. Sure, my site needs work, >heck I am still running code I wrote for CF2 which I am still meaning to >redo, but some of us have real jobs to do, and personal projects are a lower >priority. And no, I'd not want Macromedia (or anyone else for that matter) >getting involved in what my sites are and do or how they do it. I keep my >sites separate because they are my sites, and I am thus free to use them as >I see fit. > >As for the content on cfform.com being "clumsily put together", most are >volunteered by developers just like yourself, developers who also (I assume) >have real jobs. If you want better examples, just write them. Mike will be >more than happy to post them for you. > >--- Ben > > > >-Original Message- >From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:16 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: New CFFORM website > >Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow >sponsored or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. > >And yes, I agree with you that it's a good thing to see this type of >project. That said, I still believe that it would be in everybody's best >interest (especially Macromedia's, for obvious reasons) that the examples >and site are a showcase for the tag. So far, it isn't. In my >opinion it's a little too unpolished; hopefully it will get better with >time. > >I personally think Macromedia should pay far more attention to the >"cosmetic" side of its technology. Macromedia-related sites that promote >Macromedia products, like Ben Forta's site (notice I said "related", not >sponsored, because I don't know the exact nature of the relationship) should >be made to look as good as possible, even if it means Macromedia has to >shell out a few grand in the process. As it is, they don't do a very good >job of showcasing Macromedia's technology. > >But, then again, that's just my opinion... :-) ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200401 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
While design helps, it is not everything. This site is for developers. Frankly I can get over any lack of design. (Although I think cfform.com looks prettynice.) When CFLib first launched it was quite ugly. It wasn't even DB driven. My goal was to get the info/examples out as quick as possible. It wasn't till much later when I made the site dynamic and got a nice design applied to it. On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:16:13 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally think Macromedia should pay far more attention to the "cosmetic" > side of its technology. Macromedia-related sites that promote Macromedia > products, like Ben Forta's site (notice I said "related", not sponsored, > because I don't know the exact nature of the relationship) should be made to > look as good as possible, even if it means Macromedia has to shell out a few > grand in the process. As it is, they don't do a very good job of showcasing > Macromedia's technology. -- === Raymond Camden, Director of Development for Mindseye, Inc (www.mindseye.com) Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : ray.camdenfamily.com Yahoo IM : cfjedimaster "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200396 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
Um, I know that, what I meant was, what does the "markme" mean in the domain name? - Calvin -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 10:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New CFFORM website On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:38:19 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What exactly is "markme" about? Er, http://www.markme.com/ - home to dozens of Macromedia blogs and the MXNA news aggregator. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200385 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
The related select list spits JavaScript errors. Select sea and sailboat and the 3rd is empty. The 4th is disabled. Now open the 3rd box, and close it. The 4th gets enabled and once you try to open the 4th box you get the error. Micha Schopman Project Manager ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200377 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
Isn't the point that these are supposed to be EXAMPLES?? As with any code in a book, they are not meant to be 100% bullet proof cut-and-paste snippets. They are and should be little bits to spark us into that aha moment, something that we can build upon so we can feel justified in getting paid for OUR work. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 7:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New CFFORM website As for the content on cfform.com being "clumsily put together", most are volunteered by developers just like yourself, developers who also (I assume) have real jobs. If you want better examples, just write them. Mike will be more than happy to post them for you. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200374 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
> Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow > sponsored or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. Probably not. I don'y know Mike all that well, but I think perhaps well enough to dicuss this (he'll correct me if I'm wrong). Mike is very lucky in that he gets paid to do something he loves. He's a big fat geek. (At heart, at least, in real life he's an clean-cut, athletic, outdoors lover that dates super model class women. So let's just say that Mike is REALLY lucky). Anyway - Mike's a geek. He's the kind of geek that stays up late at night learning that new thing or putting together a program to do that thing he could have finished by hand hours earlier. This new forms stuff was very much his baby. I'm assuming that he put in at least as much of his own time on the functionality as he did company time - he's that excited by the stuff. So now that the feature is out and all you people have your grubby little hands all over his brain-child he wants to see what you're doing with it. So he set up a site. It has nothing to do with Macromedia at all - it has everything to do with his excitement for the feature and its potential. He did the site, on his own, because this was his "thing" and he wanted to see it blossom. (I could be wrong in all of that, but I very much doubt it.) Essentially Macromedia doesn't need to "sponsor" sites like this because they're intelligent enough to hire (or keep in Mike's case) people that are so into this stuff that they'll do it for them. All Macromedia has to do is give their people a long enough leash and stay out of the way. By doing that they allow people like Mike, Ben, Sean, etc to effectively double their productivity for no money. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200367 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
> Let me go on the record and give a hell yeah to Ben, Mike, Jared, Dave > W., Bryan, Adam, Barney, and all the other guys I'm leaving out! Ok, I forgot Sean! You're right up there too! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200360 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:38:19 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What exactly is "markme" about? Er, http://www.markme.com/ - home to dozens of Macromedia blogs and the MXNA news aggregator. -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200359 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
OUCH!! Ok look! I've noticed some posts lately that looked very unappreciative of what these guys are doing. From Ben's profits or non-profits from his books, to Mike's cfform site. Yes, I've had my share of rants about cf in the past, but my point was to improve the product, not scold individuals over their involvement with MM/CF. Let me go on the record and give a hell yeah to Ben, Mike, Jared, Dave W., Bryan, Adam, Barney, and all the other guys I'm leaving out! If it weren't for you guys I'd be WAY behind where I am right now and wouldn't be making money building apps for my slowly-growing client base.. Ben? As far as I'm concerned, you deserve a damn 20 million dollar paycheck for what you put into this for us! So don't let a few unappreciative-sounding posts make you think otherwise! We appreciate all the hard work! That's all I'm saying! Will ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200356 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
Wrong. It's Mike's site, he worked on it, and he arranged the hosting. It is not a Macromedia site, just like my sites are not. Sure, my site needs work, heck I am still running code I wrote for CF2 which I am still meaning to redo, but some of us have real jobs to do, and personal projects are a lower priority. And no, I'd not want Macromedia (or anyone else for that matter) getting involved in what my sites are and do or how they do it. I keep my sites separate because they are my sites, and I am thus free to use them as I see fit. As for the content on cfform.com being "clumsily put together", most are volunteered by developers just like yourself, developers who also (I assume) have real jobs. If you want better examples, just write them. Mike will be more than happy to post them for you. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 5:16 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New CFFORM website Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow sponsored or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. And yes, I agree with you that it's a good thing to see this type of project. That said, I still believe that it would be in everybody's best interest (especially Macromedia's, for obvious reasons) that the examples and site are a showcase for the tag. So far, it isn't. In my opinion it's a little too unpolished; hopefully it will get better with time. I personally think Macromedia should pay far more attention to the "cosmetic" side of its technology. Macromedia-related sites that promote Macromedia products, like Ben Forta's site (notice I said "related", not sponsored, because I don't know the exact nature of the relationship) should be made to look as good as possible, even if it means Macromedia has to shell out a few grand in the process. As it is, they don't do a very good job of showcasing Macromedia's technology. But, then again, that's just my opinion... :-) > I certainly dont believe that the cfform.com project is sponsored by > macromedia. The fact that Mike put together the site and the example > is a sign of his enthusiasm for the technology. > > I took the site as a source for examples of the type of things you can > do. I would never expect to take any sample code and just plug it > into my existing applications. > > Given that these features of cfform are so new I would think we are > very lucky to have such deditcated profesionals at Macromedia, that > they would work all day to build this technology for us, then give up > their free time to build examples and promote community within. > > Perhaps I misread the tone of your article, but I am very excited > about the new technology available to us through cf7. And I am > thankful for the time MIke and all the other Macromedian's put in > bringing this technology to us. > > simeon > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:13:27 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples > are really clumsily put together. Heck, even the form on the contact > page (http://www.cfform.com/contact.cfm) won't enforce any sort of > validation on the email field! > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
Dear Gomez, No one asked your opinion. Your design portfolio is bland at best... very 2 years ago. -Adam On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:16:13 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow sponsored > or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. > > And yes, I agree with you that it's a good thing to see this type of project. > That said, I still believe that it would be in everybody's best interest > (especially Macromedia's, for obvious reasons) that the examples and site are > a showcase for the tag. So far, it isn't. In my opinion it's a > little too unpolished; hopefully it will get better with time. > > I personally think Macromedia should pay far more attention to the "cosmetic" > side of its technology. Macromedia-related sites that promote Macromedia > products, like Ben Forta's site (notice I said "related", not sponsored, > because I don't know the exact nature of the relationship) should be made to > look as good as possible, even if it means Macromedia has to shell out a few > grand in the process. As it is, they don't do a very good job of showcasing > Macromedia's technology. > > But, then again, that's just my opinion... :-) > > > > I certainly dont believe that the cfform.com project is sponsored by > > macromedia. The fact that Mike put together the site and the example > > is a sign of his enthusiasm for the technology. > > > > I took the site as a source for examples of the type of things you > > can > > do. I would never expect to take any sample code and just plug it > > into my existing applications. > > > > Given that these features of cfform are so new I would think we are > > very lucky to have such deditcated profesionals at Macromedia, that > > they would work all day to build this technology for us, then give up > > their free time to build examples and promote community within. > > > > Perhaps I misread the tone of your article, but I am very excited > > about the new technology available to us through cf7. And I am > > thankful for the time MIke and all the other Macromedian's put in > > bringing this technology to us. > > > > simeon > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:13:27 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples > > are really clumsily put together. Heck, even the form on the contact > > page (http://www.cfform.com/contact.cfm) won't enforce any sort of > > validation on the email field! > > > > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200349 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New CFFORM website
What exactly is "markme" about? -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New CFFORM website On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:16:13 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow sponsored or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. Quite possibly not. Macromedia employees set up and run their own sites for all sorts of things and some of those are Macromedia-related, others are not. For example, my blog is a personal site, built by and paid for by me. No "sanctioning" and certainly no sponsorship. I think the same is true of Steven Erat's and Ben Forta's too and probably other Macromedians. The "markme" blogs are Macromedia-owned/-sponsored (hence the common look'n'feel, use of logos etc). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200346 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 18:16:13 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow sponsored > or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. Quite possibly not. Macromedia employees set up and run their own sites for all sorts of things and some of those are Macromedia-related, others are not. For example, my blog is a personal site, built by and paid for by me. No "sanctioning" and certainly no sponsorship. I think the same is true of Steven Erat's and Ben Forta's too and probably other Macromedians. The "markme" blogs are Macromedia-owned/-sponsored (hence the common look'n'feel, use of logos etc). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200344 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
Mike IS a Macromedia employee, so odds are these project is somehow sponsored or at least sanctioned by Mike's employer. And yes, I agree with you that it's a good thing to see this type of project. That said, I still believe that it would be in everybody's best interest (especially Macromedia's, for obvious reasons) that the examples and site are a showcase for the tag. So far, it isn't. In my opinion it's a little too unpolished; hopefully it will get better with time. I personally think Macromedia should pay far more attention to the "cosmetic" side of its technology. Macromedia-related sites that promote Macromedia products, like Ben Forta's site (notice I said "related", not sponsored, because I don't know the exact nature of the relationship) should be made to look as good as possible, even if it means Macromedia has to shell out a few grand in the process. As it is, they don't do a very good job of showcasing Macromedia's technology. But, then again, that's just my opinion... :-) > I certainly dont believe that the cfform.com project is sponsored by > macromedia. The fact that Mike put together the site and the example > is a sign of his enthusiasm for the technology. > > I took the site as a source for examples of the type of things you > can > do. I would never expect to take any sample code and just plug it > into my existing applications. > > Given that these features of cfform are so new I would think we are > very lucky to have such deditcated profesionals at Macromedia, that > they would work all day to build this technology for us, then give up > their free time to build examples and promote community within. > > Perhaps I misread the tone of your article, but I am very excited > about the new technology available to us through cf7. And I am > thankful for the time MIke and all the other Macromedian's put in > bringing this technology to us. > > simeon > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:13:27 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples > are really clumsily put together. Heck, even the form on the contact > page (http://www.cfform.com/contact.cfm) won't enforce any sort of > validation on the email field! > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200303 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
I certainly dont believe that the cfform.com project is sponsored by macromedia. The fact that Mike put together the site and the example is a sign of his enthusiasm for the technology. I took the site as a source for examples of the type of things you can do. I would never expect to take any sample code and just plug it into my existing applications. Given that these features of cfform are so new I would think we are very lucky to have such deditcated profesionals at Macromedia, that they would work all day to build this technology for us, then give up their free time to build examples and promote community within. Perhaps I misread the tone of your article, but I am very excited about the new technology available to us through cf7. And I am thankful for the time MIke and all the other Macromedian's put in bringing this technology to us. simeon On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:13:27 -0400, Irvin Gomez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples are > really clumsily put together. Heck, even the form on the contact page > (http://www.cfform.com/contact.cfm) won't enforce any sort of validation on > the email field! > ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200300 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New CFFORM website
Nice effort, but not much attention to detail. Most of the examples are really clumsily put together. Heck, even the form on the contact page (http://www.cfform.com/contact.cfm) won't enforce any sort of validation on the email field! Given that Macromedia bribed Jakob Nilsen into stopping his bashing of Flash, they should now give him a REAL job checking these forms out before publication :-) >Just got this off Tim Buntel's blog: > >"In case you haven't heard, cfform.com has officially launched! This is a >site that Mike Nimer, the principal engineer on the CFFORM features for CFMX >7, has put together for sharing skins and other extensions for both Flash >and XML forms. Think cflib.org for the Form set. I'm extremely excited to >see what folks publish - and a big hearty thanks to Mike for putting this >together (on his own personal accord, I may point out)." > >Thought I'd share it. It looks like potentially an awesome site. What got me >was the "think cflib.org for the form set". That's all I needed to hear... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200285 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
New CFFORM website
Just got this off Tim Buntel's blog: "In case you haven't heard, cfform.com has officially launched! This is a site that Mike Nimer, the principal engineer on the CFFORM features for CFMX 7, has put together for sharing skins and other extensions for both Flash and XML forms. Think cflib.org for the Form set. I'm extremely excited to see what folks publish - and a big hearty thanks to Mike for putting this together (on his own personal accord, I may point out)." Thought I'd share it. It looks like potentially an awesome site. What got me was the "think cflib.org for the form set". That's all I needed to hear... ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200203 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
