Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Doug White
Webmin (and usermin) should work with any Linux distro - but to be sure, read
the docs on sourceforge



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Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


| Can WebAdmin work with other GUIs (i.e. could I have Mandrake with X Windows
| installed and still use WebAdmin)?
|
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| - Original Message -
| From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:59 PM
| Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
|
|
| > RedHat 9.0 is in wide use and is supported by CFMX 6.1
| >
| > Purchasing the package for about $39.00 at Best Buy will give you free
| support
| > and updates (which seem to come about as often as the ones from
| Microsoft.)
| >
| > When doing the install, be sure to install KDE desktop if you are wanting
| a GUI
| > to work with.  Or if you are wanting to maintain it remotely, install
| Webmin.
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| > - Original Message -
| > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:23 PM
| > Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
| >
| >
| > | Thanks Matt
| > |
| > | So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
| > | copy?
| > |
| > | Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
| > |
| > | I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > |
| > | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
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| > | - Original Message -
| > | From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| > | Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
| > | Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
| > |
| > |
| > | > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or
| do
| > | > > I have
| > | > > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
| > | > >
| > | > Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
| > | > access to any of the data on the hard drive.
| > | >
| > | > > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install
| (i.e.
| > | > > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little
| about
| > | > > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
| > | > > that has
| > | > > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
| > | > > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
| > | > >
| > | > I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
| > | > distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
| > | > you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
| > | > worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
| &

RE: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Watts
> Can WebAdmin work with other GUIs (i.e. could I have Mandrake 
> with X Windows installed and still use WebAdmin)?

Yes, it does.

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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Can WebAdmin work with other GUIs (i.e. could I have Mandrake with X Windows
installed and still use WebAdmin)?

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- Original Message -
From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


> RedHat 9.0 is in wide use and is supported by CFMX 6.1
>
> Purchasing the package for about $39.00 at Best Buy will give you free
support
> and updates (which seem to come about as often as the ones from
Microsoft.)
>
> When doing the install, be sure to install KDE desktop if you are wanting
a GUI
> to work with.  Or if you are wanting to maintain it remotely, install
Webmin.
>
> ==
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:23 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
>
>
> | Thanks Matt
> |
> | So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
> | copy?
> |
> | Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
> |
> | I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
> |
> | Cheers
> |
> | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
> | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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> | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |
> | -
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> | -
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> | Founder & Director
> | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
> | - Original Message -
> | From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
> | Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
> |
> |
> | > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or
do
> | > > I have
> | > > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
> | > >
> | > Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
> | > access to any of the data on the hard drive.
> | >
> | > > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install
(i.e.
> | > > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little
about
> | > > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
> | > > that has
> | > > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
> | > > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
> | > >
> | > I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
> | > distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
> | > you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
> | > worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
> | >
> | > Matt Liotta
> | > President & CEO
> | > Montara Software, Inc.
> | > http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
> | > (888) 408-0900 x901
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Doug White
RedHat 9.0 is in wide use and is supported by CFMX 6.1

Purchasing the package for about $39.00 at Best Buy will give you free support
and updates (which seem to come about as often as the ones from Microsoft.)

When doing the install, be sure to install KDE desktop if you are wanting a GUI
to work with.  Or if you are wanting to maintain it remotely, install Webmin.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


| Thanks Matt
|
| So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
| copy?
|
| Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
|
| I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
|
| Cheers
|
| Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
| VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
| Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
| t. 250.920.8830
| e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
| -
| Macromedia Associate Partner
| www.macromedia.com
| -
| Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
| Founder & Director
| www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
| - Original Message -
| From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
| Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
|
|
| > > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do
| > > I have
| > > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
| > >
| > Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
| > access to any of the data on the hard drive.
| >
| > > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
| > > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
| > > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
| > > that has
| > > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
| > > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
| > >
| > I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
| > distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
| > you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
| > worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
| >
| > Matt Liotta
| > President & CEO
| > Montara Software, Inc.
| > http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
| > (888) 408-0900 x901
| >
| >
| >
| 
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Dave Carabetta
> > So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
> > copy?
> >
>I am currently sticking with RedHat 7.x myself. You could download the
>ISOs directly from RedHat's FTP and just burn them to CD if you want.
>You can also buy directly from RedHat, which has the advantage of free
>technical support.
>

Just to take Matt's 7.x endorsement one step further, if you plan to use CF 
on this machine, you will need to have RedHat 7.2 (or earlier) to use Verity 
because of the Verity binary version restrictions. While CFMX 6.1 officially 
supports later versions of RedHat, Verity is not.

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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
> copy?
>
I am currently sticking with RedHat 7.x myself. You could download the 
ISOs directly from RedHat's FTP and just burn them to CD if you want. 
You can also buy directly from RedHat, which has the advantage of free 
technical support.

> Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
>
Most of the current distributions boot up from CDs. Further, they tend 
to provide floppy images on the CD in case you need to create a floppy 
for machines that can't boot from CD.

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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Jim Campbell
Bryan,

As a Linux Newbie, I'd recommend you look at Mandrake for this first toe 
in the water.  Mandrake is very friendly to noobs, and you'll be able to 
get up and running in no time.  RedHat is better known, and their 
installer gets better and better with each iteration, but I think 
Mandrake will be a little more forgiving :)

Not to knock RedHat, though.  I've had version 8 running on an old 
Compaq Presario minitower for a year with no reboots, except for when I 
moved and had to power down for a few days.

- Jim

Bryan Stevenson wrote:

>Thanks Matt
>
>So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
>copy?
>
>Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?
>
>I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)
>
>Cheers
>
>Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>t. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-
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>www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>- Original Message -
>From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
>Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice
>
>
>  
>
>>>So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do
>>>I have
>>>to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
>>access to any of the data on the hard drive.
>>
>>
>>
>>>What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
>>>RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
>>>Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
>>>that has
>>>a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
>>>Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
>>distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
>>you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
>>worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
>>
>>Matt Liotta
>>President & CEO
>>Montara Software, Inc.
>>http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
>>(888) 408-0900 x901
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks Matt

So what's the current RedHat version that is stable? where can I grab a
copy?

Is it installed from a  floppy/CD at boot up?

I promise to RTFM after I get the dang thing ;-)

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- Original Message -
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice


> > So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do
> > I have
> > to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
> >
> Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want
> access to any of the data on the hard drive.
>
> > What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
> > RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
> > Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package
> > that has
> > a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
> > Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
> >
> I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used
> distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After
> you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start
> worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
> (888) 408-0900 x901
>
>
> 
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Re: OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Liotta
> So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do 
> I have
> to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?
>
Yes, you can simply install Linux over Windows assuming you don't want 
access to any of the data on the hard drive.

> What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
> RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
> Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package 
> that has
> a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
> Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).
>
I always recommend RedHat to people since it is the most widely used 
distribution and thus it is easier to get help from others with. After 
you become more familiar with Linux in general then you can start 
worrying about why you would choose one distribution over the others.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
(888) 408-0900 x901


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OT: Linux Newbie Advice

2003-09-17 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

OK...so I'm going to give this open source hippie stuff a whirl ;-)

I have an old AMD K6-2 400 MHz box with Win2K Pro currently installed

One big issue is the passwords for this box have been lost.

So can I simply install Linux over Windows (i.e. from boot up)? or do I have
to wipe the drive first (FDisk)?

What do you Linux folks recommend for a Linux package to install (i.e.
RedHat version...Mandrake etc.)?  Bear in mind I know very little about
Linux and I don't want to play the command line game.  So a package that has
a decent GUI would be nice (I've seen and played a bit with X
Windows...seemed nice...but what do I know...hehe).

So at this point...any and all advice is welcome (and feel free to send me
info offlist).

TIA

Cheers

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VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
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