OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
I have the opportunity to purchase a hard drive for 700.00 and get a copy of windows 2003 server ent edition w/ 25 cal, but the software is NFR (Not for resale) does anyone know if I would still be able to set-up a web server without getting into any troble doing so? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
That means exactly what it says on the tin, whoever is selling it, is selling it illegally and breaking the license. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Doug Brown To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Sep 12 13:32:35 2006 Subject: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software I have the opportunity to purchase a hard drive for 700.00 and get a copy of windows 2003 server ent edition w/ 25 cal, but the software is NFR (Not for resale) does anyone know if I would still be able to set-up a web server without getting into any troble doing so? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252833 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
It'll install ok, and run happily - its a full-blown copy, but as Neil Robertson-Ravo said, it's a breach of the licence agreement of the previous owner. I'm not sure if you break the law by posessing the software, but the previous owner sure breaches the licence by selling it to you, even if the software is still unopened. I dont think any buyer can hold any better right to it than the previous owner, so if he had no right to it for any reason, then nor do you. Thats the law here in Australia anyway I believe. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month On 9/12/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That means exactly what it says on the tin, whoever is selling it, is selling it illegally and breaking the license. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252836 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
Well perhaps they are selling him the hard drive and giving the OS FREE, in which case their not technically selling it :-) -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2006 14:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software That means exactly what it says on the tin, whoever is selling it, is selling it illegally and breaking the license. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Doug Brown To: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Sep 12 13:32:35 2006 Subject: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software I have the opportunity to purchase a hard drive for 700.00 and get a copy of windows 2003 server ent edition w/ 25 cal, but the software is NFR (Not for resale) does anyone know if I would still be able to set-up a web server without getting into any troble doing so? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252861 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
I think this seller is trying the old I'll sell you this pencil for $1000, and throw in 2 front row tickets to the Stones for free trick that scalpers try to use. But since they have no right not sell it (or probably even give it away), you would not have a valid license. Another one to watch out for is the OEM copies...I believe that in most cases buying OEM software outside of a system purchase is not legal. Also, the OEM copy can not be installed on anything other than the original machine it was installed on...so you can't move it to another machine. That's one of the reasons I generally don't buy pre-installed software like MS-Office...for ~$50 more, you can get a full copy that can be installed on two machines (the full copy allows you to have a copy on your laptop and desktop), and if you upgrade machines, you can bring Office with you. And with the new Windows Genuine Advantage checking that does on in Windows Update, some of these OEM and NFR versions may stop receiving critical updates. Big Brother is watching. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252862 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
Microsoft recently successfully sued several resellers were selling machines without fully licensed copies of Windows. Don't know much about the details, but it seems to be mostly resellers they are going after. On 9/12/06 11:44 AM, Jim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this seller is trying the old I'll sell you this pencil for $1000, and throw in 2 front row tickets to the Stones for free trick that scalpers try to use. But since they have no right not sell it (or probably even give it away), you would not have a valid license. Another one to watch out for is the OEM copies...I believe that in most cases buying OEM software outside of a system purchase is not legal. Also, the OEM copy can not be installed on anything other than the original machine it was installed on...so you can't move it to another machine. That's one of the reasons I generally don't buy pre-installed software like MS-Office...for ~$50 more, you can get a full copy that can be installed on two machines (the full copy allows you to have a copy on your laptop and desktop), and if you upgrade machines, you can bring Office with you. And with the new Windows Genuine Advantage checking that does on in Windows Update, some of these OEM and NFR versions may stop receiving critical updates. Big Brother is watching. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252864 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
Snake wrote: Well perhaps they are selling him the hard drive and giving the OS FREE, in which case their not technically selling it :-) I'd like to sell you this fine, unused, yellow #2 pencil for $1000 With your purchase, I will GIVE you a pair of Michigan-Notre Dame tickets at the 50 yard line. Yeah. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252866 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
Sounds like a good deal rick, but I'll need a plane ticket from the UK as well please. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2006 17:20 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software Snake wrote: Well perhaps they are selling him the hard drive and giving the OS FREE, in which case their not technically selling it :-) I'd like to sell you this fine, unused, yellow #2 pencil for $1000 With your purchase, I will GIVE you a pair of Michigan-Notre Dame tickets at the 50 yard line. Yeah. Rick ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252867 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
Yeah I actually got booted from ebay awhile back because of microsoft. So I engaged them to find a solution and their response was there is no solution. I had purchased a bunch of hardware and a ton of software from a company that was shutting down. Unused unopened Office 2000 Professionals , 2 - Win 2000 Severs Unopened Unused I launched 3 auctions. The first sold so I listed another. Well auction 2 was pulled and I was warned. I contacted them to find out what was going on and what I needed to send to prove legit. During this dialog their VERO dogs found auction 3 4 and banned me from ebay 3 strike policy LOL Spoke to microsoft and was told all the licenses were invalid once the software went from the company to me. Even if they were unused. If you read the EULA Microsoft owns the software they only license the use :) Oh well guess I did my Family xmas shopping early that year HAHA. Still banned from ebay after following their dispute procedure showing the timeline of 2 days before I was banned. I was told ebay is a private club much like a Credit Card they dont have to give you a card oh well kinda like the patriot act some good people gonna pay the price for the bad people LOL ~Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252869 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
Surely it is legal to sell hardware and include the OEM software, seeing as anyone can actually buy OEM software directly form MS and do the same thing. Russ -Original Message- From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2006 18:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software Yeah I actually got booted from ebay awhile back because of microsoft. So I engaged them to find a solution and their response was there is no solution. I had purchased a bunch of hardware and a ton of software from a company that was shutting down. Unused unopened Office 2000 Professionals , 2 - Win 2000 Severs Unopened Unused I launched 3 auctions. The first sold so I listed another. Well auction 2 was pulled and I was warned. I contacted them to find out what was going on and what I needed to send to prove legit. During this dialog their VERO dogs found auction 3 4 and banned me from ebay 3 strike policy LOL Spoke to microsoft and was told all the licenses were invalid once the software went from the company to me. Even if they were unused. If you read the EULA Microsoft owns the software they only license the use :) Oh well guess I did my Family xmas shopping early that year HAHA. Still banned from ebay after following their dispute procedure showing the timeline of 2 days before I was banned. I was told ebay is a private club much like a Credit Card they dont have to give you a card oh well kinda like the patriot act some good people gonna pay the price for the bad people LOL ~Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252870 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software
A lot of companies will sell you a hard drive (usually a non-working one) with a copy of Windows. Not sure if that's legal or not. Russ -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software Surely it is legal to sell hardware and include the OEM software, seeing as anyone can actually buy OEM software directly form MS and do the same thing. Russ -Original Message- From: Eric Haskins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 September 2006 18:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: NFR (Not for resale) Software Yeah I actually got booted from ebay awhile back because of microsoft. So I engaged them to find a solution and their response was there is no solution. I had purchased a bunch of hardware and a ton of software from a company that was shutting down. Unused unopened Office 2000 Professionals , 2 - Win 2000 Severs Unopened Unused I launched 3 auctions. The first sold so I listed another. Well auction 2 was pulled and I was warned. I contacted them to find out what was going on and what I needed to send to prove legit. During this dialog their VERO dogs found auction 3 4 and banned me from ebay 3 strike policy LOL Spoke to microsoft and was told all the licenses were invalid once the software went from the company to me. Even if they were unused. If you read the EULA Microsoft owns the software they only license the use :) Oh well guess I did my Family xmas shopping early that year HAHA. Still banned from ebay after following their dispute procedure showing the timeline of 2 days before I was banned. I was told ebay is a private club much like a Credit Card they dont have to give you a card oh well kinda like the patriot act some good people gonna pay the price for the bad people LOL ~Eric ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:252871 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
