Re: OT Sys-con at it again
On Friday 12 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: print (can they?). shouldn't there be some sort of system in place whereby somebody can say, hey sys-con... produce me one (just ONE) person in the CF community that feels that Adobe's destruction of CF started by pulling the plug on CFDJ. Libel/Slander. Adobe probably don't want to go to caught over it though, do they ? -- Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and ColdSpring, and has done some Flex work ? Would you like to work for a top 30 law firm in Manchester, UK ? Are not an agency ? If yes, send email ! This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291083 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT Sys-con at it again
Is it me, or is the article verging on the incomprehensible? I think they spent longer editing the little graphic... Josh says the sys-con mailing list is really slow, and JH somehow comes to the conclusion from that that CF is dead? OK then, well lets take that logic a little furtherbecause the sky is blue, I will win the F1 World championship on Sunday. Neil On 10/15/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 12 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: print (can they?). shouldn't there be some sort of system in place whereby somebody can say, hey sys-con... produce me one (just ONE) person in the CF community that feels that Adobe's destruction of CF started by pulling the plug on CFDJ. Libel/Slander. Adobe probably don't want to go to caught over it though, do they ? -- Tom Chiverton. Are you a great ColdFusion programmer, who knows Reactor and ColdSpring, and has done some Flex work ? Would you like to work for a top 30 law firm in Manchester, UK ? Are not an agency ? If yes, send email ! This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291152 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT Sys-con at it again
http://www.briankotek.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/9/James-Hamilton-SysCon-Shill-Or-Just-a-Misguided-Imbicile-Either-Way-He-Needs-to-Shut-Up On 10/12/07, Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I couldn't help myself. :-) No links, but ... http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/12/A-Moment-Of-Silence-For- --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT Sys-con at it again Yep, I am not responding on my blog either. I don't want to give them the traffic. But Jason Delmore did respond ... http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/10/12/Is-Adobe-Officially-killing-Co ldFusion --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT Sys-con at it again Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290958 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: OT Sys-con at it again
1. CFDJ came out in the fall of 1999, which makes their claims to 10 years (and 12 years in some marketing materials) blatant lies. 2. They're using a sock puppet to put forth 'expert' testimony 3. A magazine does not live or die on the merit of a single advertiser. 4. They must truly be in Microsofts pocket in order to be pissing off a major player in such a way that many other advertisers will not want to advertise with them anymore. 5. This really is OT for the ColdFusion-Talk technical list. :) According to some in the ColdFusion community, Adobe's destruction of ColdFusion started by pulling the plug on a 10 year-old institution, ColdFusion Developer's Journal it's really a shame that they can't be held responsible for lying in print (can they?). shouldn't there be some sort of system in place whereby somebody can say, hey sys-con... produce me one (just ONE) person in the CF community that feels that Adobe's destruction of CF started by pulling the plug on CFDJ. shouldn't there be *some* level of accountability? On 10/12/07, Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.briankotek.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/9/James-Hamilton-SysCon-Shill-Or-Just-a-Misguided-Imbicile-Either-Way-He-Needs-to-Shut-Up On 10/12/07, Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I couldn't help myself. :-) No links, but ... http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/12/A-Moment-Of-Silence-For- --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT Sys-con at it again Yep, I am not responding on my blog either. I don't want to give them the traffic. But Jason Delmore did respond ... http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/10/12/Is-Adobe-Officially-killing-Co ldFusion --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT Sys-con at it again Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290965 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT Sys-con at it again
Lol. You're approach is working already... http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=James+Hamilton+sys-conbtnG=Search First result. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Brian Kotek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT Sys-con at it again http://www.briankotek.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/9/James-Hamilton-SysCon -Shill-Or-Just-a-Misguided-Imbicile-Either-Way-He-Needs-to-Shut-Up On 10/12/07, Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I couldn't help myself. :-) No links, but ... http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/12/A-Moment-Of-Silence-For- --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT Sys-con at it again Yep, I am not responding on my blog either. I don't want to give them the traffic. But Jason Delmore did respond ... http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/10/12/Is-Adobe-Officially-killin g-Co ldFusion --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT Sys-con at it again Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290966 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT Sys-con at it again
two things... 2nd to last paragraph: ...considered another strong step by Adobe on its way to dismentaling ColdFusion. dismentaling? last paragraph: What Adobe is doing with ColdFusion is very similar to what Borland did in 1986. They bought Ashton Software for the sole purpose of killing dBase IV, which competed with Borland's Paradox at the time, and they did, said one industry insider. their industry insider is a moron. if Borland bought Ashton for the sole purpose of killing off a competing product... wouldn't that imply that Adobe -had- a product that was competing with CF? it's a ridiculous analogy that doesn't come close to holding true. It just reeks of sys-con being really really really bitter. especially this part (also from the 2nd to last paragraph): According to some in the ColdFusion community, Adobe's destruction of ColdFusion started by pulling the plug on a 10 year-old institution, ColdFusion Developer's Journal it's really a shame that they can't be held responsible for lying in print (can they?). shouldn't there be some sort of system in place whereby somebody can say, hey sys-con... produce me one (just ONE) person in the CF community that feels that Adobe's destruction of CF started by pulling the plug on CFDJ. shouldn't there be *some* level of accountability? On 10/12/07, Brian Kotek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.briankotek.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/9/James-Hamilton-SysCon-Shill-Or-Just-a-Misguided-Imbicile-Either-Way-He-Needs-to-Shut-Up On 10/12/07, Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, I couldn't help myself. :-) No links, but ... http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/12/A-Moment-Of-Silence-For- --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT Sys-con at it again Yep, I am not responding on my blog either. I don't want to give them the traffic. But Jason Delmore did respond ... http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/10/12/Is-Adobe-Officially-killing-Co ldFusion --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT Sys-con at it again Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| ColdFusion 8 - Build next generation apps today, with easy PDF and Ajax features - download now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290959 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT Sys-con at it again
Oh, I couldn't help myself. :-) No links, but ... http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/12/A-Moment-Of-Silence-For- --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT Sys-con at it again Yep, I am not responding on my blog either. I don't want to give them the traffic. But Jason Delmore did respond ... http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/10/12/Is-Adobe-Officially-killing-Co ldFusion --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT Sys-con at it again Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290950 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: OT Sys-con at it again
Yep, I am not responding on my blog either. I don't want to give them the traffic. But Jason Delmore did respond ... http://www.cfinsider.com/index.cfm/2007/10/12/Is-Adobe-Officially-killing-Co ldFusion --- Ben -Original Message- From: Ryan, Terrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT Sys-con at it again Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290945 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
OT Sys-con at it again
Just saw this today. http://java.sys-con.com/read/441186.htm I'm intentionally not blogging it to not give them my (paltry) traffic, but talk about sour grapes. I guess none of us can ever leave a job, because according to sys-con, it means that as we walk out the door our former company or office EXPOLDES! Terrence Ryan I.T. Director Wharton Computing and Information Technology 3733 Spruce Street 216 Vance Hall Philadelphia, PA 19104 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (215) 898-6705 Mobile: (267) 252-9727 ~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:290944 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: OT Sys-con at it again
Somehow I knew that it wouldn't take long, considering what a nobody this guy is (if it's even a real person). On 10/12/07, Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lol. You're approach is working already... http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=James+Hamilton+sys-conbtnG=Search First result. ~Brad ~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:291006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
