Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Hi All, I've got an idea that I would like to see what'ya all think about. I
have a need to publish some information across my Intranets. I was thinking
about a message center where the message center pod would read from a global
RSS file and display information as needed. However I would like to push
that information to users as a popup or something.

I'm a little hesitant to force a user to see a popup while they may be
working on say a contact record. So I was thinking of creating a MSN like
message window that will popup in the right corner of their screen. A 5x5
pixel flash window will run a webservice that reads from the feeds per site
at a set interval. The interval could be set by the user in their control
pod.

What are your thoughts, does anyone see anything wrong with something like
this. Do you think they may find it annoying?


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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Connie DeCinko
You can actually do this with a Flash app.
 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

Hi All, I've got an idea that I would like to see what'ya all think about. I
have a need to publish some information across my Intranets. I was thinking
about a message center where the message center pod would read from a global
RSS file and display information as needed. However I would like to push
that information to users as a popup or something.

I'm a little hesitant to force a user to see a popup while they may be
working on say a contact record. So I was thinking of creating a MSN like
message window that will popup in the right corner of their screen. A 5x5
pixel flash window will run a webservice that reads from the feeds per site
at a set interval. The interval could be set by the user in their control
pod.

What are your thoughts, does anyone see anything wrong with something like
this. Do you think they may find it annoying?




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Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Alex Sherwood
Make it so when they log in, it lists the subjects of the messages they 
need to read, with a button at the bottom of the page that lets them 
bypass and hit the main landing page.

On the main landing page, you can have a small box that reads You have 
messages, and they click on it to go back to the list of messages?




Bryan F. Hogan wrote:

Hi All, I've got an idea that I would like to see what'ya all think about. I
have a need to publish some information across my Intranets. I was thinking
about a message center where the message center pod would read from a global
RSS file and display information as needed. However I would like to push
that information to users as a popup or something.

I'm a little hesitant to force a user to see a popup while they may be
working on say a contact record. So I was thinking of creating a MSN like
message window that will popup in the right corner of their screen. A 5x5
pixel flash window will run a webservice that reads from the feeds per site
at a set interval. The interval could be set by the user in their control
pod.

What are your thoughts, does anyone see anything wrong with something like
this. Do you think they may find it annoying?




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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
If you're talking about the MSN like window it can be done, but first I'll
have to buy a new Flash Projector then have an extra install right? I was
going to do the same thing that MSN Messenger does with their web version. I
wrote a C# browser for their Intranet's, I guess I can use that to do it,
but I would like to keep the separation from the web and the browser, I
guess I could still have the custom browser read from a webservice if their
connected and go that way. Sorry I'm thinking out loud.

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

You can actually do this with a Flash app.


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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Right, I was going to include that. They already have an outlook today like
landing page. The only problem is they can set their start page to any
component page they choose. I am going to include the message center pod,
but I still need to push it to them also.

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From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

Make it so when they log in, it lists the subjects of the messages they 
need to read, with a button at the bottom of the page that lets them 
bypass and hit the main landing page.

On the main landing page, you can have a small box that reads You have 
messages, and they click on it to go back to the list of messages?


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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Connie DeCinko
Similar idea.  I was thinking Zinc 2
(http://www.multidmedia.com/software/zinc/).  It'll convert a SWF to an EXE
and has options you are looking for.
 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

If you're talking about the MSN like window it can be done, but first I'll
have to buy a new Flash Projector then have an extra install right? I was
going to do the same thing that MSN Messenger does with their web version. I
wrote a C# browser for their Intranet's, I guess I can use that to do it,
but I would like to keep the separation from the web and the browser, I
guess I could still have the custom browser read from a webservice if their
connected and go that way. Sorry I'm thinking out loud.

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

You can actually do this with a Flash app.




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Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Douglas Knudsen
look at Central yet?  


On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 12:03:39 -0500, Bryan F. Hogan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All, I've got an idea that I would like to see what'ya all think about. I
 have a need to publish some information across my Intranets. I was thinking
 about a message center where the message center pod would read from a global
 RSS file and display information as needed. However I would like to push
 that information to users as a popup or something.
 
 I'm a little hesitant to force a user to see a popup while they may be
 working on say a contact record. So I was thinking of creating a MSN like
 message window that will popup in the right corner of their screen. A 5x5
 pixel flash window will run a webservice that reads from the feeds per site
 at a set interval. The interval could be set by the user in their control
 pod.
 
 What are your thoughts, does anyone see anything wrong with something like
 this. Do you think they may find it annoying?
 
 

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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Yeah, it's a great idea if I was using a Flash Application. However all of
my stuff is accessed traditionally or via their Intranet desktop browser. My
option without adding more complexity to the application with other plugins
is to either you a C# component in the browser or DHTML since they can
access it by the web also.

I appreciate your information, it's a great idea with a Flash app. However I
think the 5x5 pixel Flash that calls the DHTML is the way to implement it in
my case.

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

Similar idea.  I was thinking Zinc 2
(http://www.multidmedia.com/software/zinc/).  It'll convert a SWF to an EXE
and has options you are looking for.


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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Not to start a war, but no way!

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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

look at Central yet?


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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Kevin Aebig
The idea behind Central is great, but the implementation sucks. Who wants to
build an application that gets dwarfed by its container...

@@ two cents,

Kevin

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From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets


Not to start a war, but no way!

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From: Douglas Knudsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

look at Central yet?




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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Kevin Aebig
FYI. It's not that hard to embed a flash movie in a C++ container and
control is through FSCommand. Also, its more lightweight because you only
need to include the functionality that you want.

This app is a flash file in a C++ container and I'm implementing the MSN
style popup in the next week. On a side note, you can also accomplish this
with DHTML...

Cheers,

Kevin

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From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets


Similar idea.  I was thinking Zinc 2
(http://www.multidmedia.com/software/zinc/).  It'll convert a SWF to an EXE
and has options you are looking for.


-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

If you're talking about the MSN like window it can be done, but first I'll
have to buy a new Flash Projector then have an extra install right? I was
going to do the same thing that MSN Messenger does with their web version. I
wrote a C# browser for their Intranet's, I guess I can use that to do it,
but I would like to keep the separation from the web and the browser, I
guess I could still have the custom browser read from a webservice if their
connected and go that way. Sorry I'm thinking out loud.

-Original Message-
From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

You can actually do this with a Flash app.






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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
I agree, I was looking for peoples thoughts on the annoyance factor. I know
what the options for implementation are. Thanks for you reply though.

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From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

FYI. It's not that hard to embed a flash movie in a C++ container and
control is through FSCommand. Also, its more lightweight because you only
need to include the functionality that you want.

This app is a flash file in a C++ container and I'm implementing the MSN
style popup in the next week. On a side note, you can also accomplish this
with DHTML...

Cheers,


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Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Eric Dawson
If I were running an intranet - no question would I run an entrprise
messenger like MSN w/ gateways etc. (jabber)

I would look for a client that would be able to do what you want it today.
no advice there sorry. but on my mind, so someday I'll take a look at the
options.

- Original Message - 
From: Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets


 Similar idea.  I was thinking Zinc 2
 (http://www.multidmedia.com/software/zinc/).  It'll convert a SWF to an
EXE
 and has options you are looking for.


 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:30 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

 If you're talking about the MSN like window it can be done, but first I'll
 have to buy a new Flash Projector then have an extra install right? I was
 going to do the same thing that MSN Messenger does with their web version.
I
 wrote a C# browser for their Intranet's, I guess I can use that to do it,
 but I would like to keep the separation from the web and the browser, I
 guess I could still have the custom browser read from a webservice if
their
 connected and go that way. Sorry I'm thinking out loud.

 -Original Message-
 From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 12:24 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

 You can actually do this with a Flash app.




 

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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
I've been praying that some of these smart flash guys would actually build
one that can be implemented into an Intranet, but as of yet haven't found
one that is a nice fit.

-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

If I were running an intranet - no question would I run an entrprise
messenger like MSN w/ gateways etc. (jabber)

I would look for a client that would be able to do what you want it today.
no advice there sorry. but on my mind, so someday I'll take a look at the
options.


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Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Eric Dawson
Gush (instant messenger / news reader)
http://www.2entwine.com/

Jabber Flash API
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jabberflash

http://voisen.org/archives/2003/04/announcing_jabber_component_suite_for_flash.php



- Original Message - 
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets


 I've been praying that some of these smart flash guys would actually build
 one that can be implemented into an Intranet, but as of yet haven't found
 one that is a nice fit.

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:45 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

 If I were running an intranet - no question would I run an entrprise
 messenger like MSN w/ gateways etc. (jabber)

 I would look for a client that would be able to do what you want it today.
 no advice there sorry. but on my mind, so someday I'll take a look at the
 options.


 

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RE: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

2005-03-08 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
as of yet haven't found one that is a nice fit

Out of the ones below you either have to write your own or is too big.

These are all options for those who would like to spend the time
implementing or want a huge stand-alone application. :-)

-Original Message-
From: Eric Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 5:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Push Information to Users Across Intranets

Gush (instant messenger / news reader)
http://www.2entwine.com/

Jabber Flash API
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jabberflash

http://voisen.org/archives/2003/04/announcing_jabber_component_suite_for_fla
sh.php


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