Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
What Mike said super-important. Its something I learned way back when I was writing ad copy and building the ads (in Xerox Ventura Publisher 1.0; running on that super-cool GEM gui). People perceive mixed case text strings one word at a time. They perceive all caps one letter at a time. Processing and recognition for mixed case strings (i.e. a sentence) is thus quite a bit faster than all caps and hence its a lot easier to read/sink in. So if you wanted people to actually read copy of even moderate length you mixed-cased it. If you wanted to blast them with a 3-10 letter word in 28 pt type that was the only time for uppercase. -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187267 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:00:54 -, Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FCK editor ... does anyone else read that in a profane manner every time they see it? Not quite as bad as fcuk :) French Connection United Kingdom put it on all the clothing they sell... A lovely play on letters for their marketing dept Well - that's more widespread that you might think: Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Someday I'm going to do a custom tag to do that to a whole site... Jim Davis ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187060 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
That's aewmsoe! I think I'd heard something like that before, but never as clearly demonstrated as that. Course, now we're WAY OT, and probably going to get yelled at soon. cheers, barneyb On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:17:03 -0500, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:00:54 -, Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FCK editor ... does anyone else read that in a profane manner every time they see it? Not quite as bad as fcuk :) French Connection United Kingdom put it on all the clothing they sell... A lovely play on letters for their marketing dept Well - that's more widespread that you might think: Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Someday I'm going to do a custom tag to do that to a whole site... Jim Davis -- Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 360.319.6145 http://www.barneyb.com/blog/ ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187064 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
Barney Boisvert wrote: That's aewmsoe! I think I'd heard something like that before, but never as clearly demonstrated as that. Course, now we're WAY OT, and probably going to get yelled at soon. Doubt it. It's Friday. And night's approaching. /-) cheers, barneyb -- --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) Intrafoundation Software http://www.intrafoundation.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187069 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
This only works with fairly simple content. quote src=http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/; Update 2: Graham has very kindly sent me a summary of his thesis work. http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/rawlinson.html it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae... it doesn't matter in what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and last letter be at the right place This is clearly wrong. For instance, compare the following three sentences: 1) A vheclie epxledod at a plocie cehckipont near the UN haduqertares in Bagahdd on Mnoday kilinlg the bmober and an Irqai polcie offceir 2) Big ccunoil tax ineesacrs tihs yaer hvae seezueqd the inmcoes of mnay pneosenirs 3) A dootcr has aimttded the magltheuansr of a tageene ceacnr pintaet who deid aetfr a hatospil durg blendur All three sentences were randomized according to the rules described in the meme. The first and last letters have stayed in the same place and all the other letters have been moved. However, I suspect that your experience is the same as mine, which is that the texts get progressively more difficult to read. If you get stuck, the sentences are linked to the original unscrambled texts. /quote -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187072 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
Its def reffered to as the [EMAIL PROTECTED] Editor. We actually went ahead and renamed the custom tag. -Adam On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:00:54 -, Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FCK editor ... does anyone else read that in a profane manner every time they see it? Not quite as bad as fcuk :) French Connection United Kingdom put it on all the clothing they sell... A lovely play on letters for their marketing dept Paul ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187057 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
And no one can dcfeyer the srecet cdoe... Oh wait, yes they can, that was kinda the point :-) John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer -Original Message- From: Lewis Sellers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC Barney Boisvert wrote: That's aewmsoe! I think I'd heard something like that before, but never as clearly demonstrated as that. Course, now we're WAY OT, and probably going to get yelled at soon. Doubt it. It's Friday. And night's approaching. /-) cheers, barneyb -- --Lewis Sellers (AKA min) Intrafoundation Software http://www.intrafoundation.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187074 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
I wrote a CF script to do this a while ago and found exactly that. With simpler text you can jumble the letters as much as you like, but with multi-syllable words it starts to get a lot harder to understand. I modified the script so it never moved the letters more than 2 positions from their starting point and it made the world of difference. I'll see if I can dig it out. Spike Ian Skinner wrote: This only works with fairly simple content. quote src=http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/; Update 2: Graham has very kindly sent me a summary of his thesis work. http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/personal/matt.davis/Cmabrigde/rawlinson.html it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae... it doesn't matter in what order the letters in a word are, the only important thing is that the first and last letter be at the right place This is clearly wrong. For instance, compare the following three sentences: 1) A vheclie epxledod at a plocie cehckipont near the UN haduqertares in Bagahdd on Mnoday kilinlg the bmober and an Irqai polcie offceir 2) Big ccunoil tax ineesacrs tihs yaer hvae seezueqd the inmcoes of mnay pneosenirs 3) A dootcr has aimttded the magltheuansr of a tageene ceacnr pintaet who deid aetfr a hatospil durg blendur All three sentences were randomized according to the rules described in the meme. The first and last letters have stayed in the same place and all the other letters have been moved. However, I suspect that your experience is the same as mine, which is that the texts get progressively more difficult to read. If you get stuck, the sentences are linked to the original unscrambled texts. /quote -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187089 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
jeez don't you guys have jobs? :D -- --Matt Robertson-- President, Janitor MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187117 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
Nope :) Matt Robertson wrote: jeez don't you guys have jobs? :D -- Stephen Milligan Code poet for hire http://www.spike.org.uk Do you cfeclipse? http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - RUWebby http://www.ruwebby.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187147 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
And thank goodness for that, or CFE wouldn't get as much attention as it does (and that would suck). You guys deserve medals. -Original Message- From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 11 December 2004 9:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC Nope :) Matt Robertson wrote: jeez don't you guys have jobs? ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187161 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
I've been using TinyPNS!! ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - New Atlanta http://www.newatlanta.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187164 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
Will Tomlinson wrote: I've been using TinyPNS!! I think there's herbal remedies for that! it's late, isn't it? ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Silver Sponsor - CFDynamics http://www.cfdynamics.com Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187166 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
Will Tomlinson wrote: I've been using TinyPNS!! I think there's herbal remedies for that! it's late, isn't it? ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187167 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: [OT] Fck... Profane? was fck editor 2.0 RC
There is a serious consequence to this phenomenon. Ergonomists tell us that we recognise words not by spelling the letters out in our minds, but by the shape of the words. This is why it works. Ever notice that freeway signs are all in upper and lower case? it's because of this very thing - we recognise place names and directions by the shape of the words, not by the individual letters.And if the words are emphasised by putting them in all caps, they are HARDER to read, not easier. For us as web developers, it tells us that we should always use upper and lower case characters, not upper case. If you want to emphasise something, use bolder type, larger type, colour changes etc, but not put all in upper case. See. I'm working. And it's Saturday here. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:30:32 -0500, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will Tomlinson wrote: I've been using TinyPNS!! I think there's herbal remedies for that! it's late, isn't it? ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:187169 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
