Re: AOL? (Resolved?)

2002-12-19 Thread JLH All Turbo
Aol just won over $7 million from a spamming company.. they are cracking
down.. I wouldn't be surprised ...

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-978019.html

Don't know if this has anything to do with this topic at all.

Jacob.
- Original Message -
From: "Mark W. Breneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)


> Is this a new issue?
>
> I remember an AOL issue almost a year ago about cfmail being blocked by
AOL
> due to CF could be used as a Spam engine.  I did not verify that actually
> happened or if it was just a rumor.
>
> From what I remember you could use a   the mail generator in the header of the email.
>
> Again, I did not verify that this works or if it was just a rumor.
>
> Mark W. Breneman
> -Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
> -Network / Web Server Administrator
>   Vivid Media
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   www.vividmedia.com
>   608.270.9770
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
>
>
> Did they say that they had implemented a change, or what they're doing?
> This is completely irresponsible of a network administration to simply
> implement something that could effect millions, without so much as a
> warning, URL as to where we could find info... SOMEthing.
>
> Completely insane
>
> | -Original Message-----
> | From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:30 AM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
> |
> |
> | I am clueless about it
> |
> | I called AOL and their tech advised me to make RDNS entries
> | for every domain then wait 24 hours and try again....
> |
> |
> |
> | -Original Message-
> | From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> | Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:26 PM
> | To: CF-Talk
> | Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
> |
> |
> | Has anyone resolved the issue with AOL?  We are still
> | completely unable to send email to any AOL addresses.  Our
> | servers are not on any lists that we can find, and we RDNS perfectly.
> |
> |
> |
> |
>
> 
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RE: AOL? (Resolved?)

2002-12-19 Thread Matt Robertson
One of my client just mailed to their association membership. The list contains about 
4000 AOL addresses, and this isn't the first time they've done that.  While I add some 
cfmailparams to make the mailpiece more standards-compliant, I don't change the mailer 
name.  Deliveries went thru fine.

I cross-posted the advice one of you got from AOL to the Declude list (they're 
discussing the problem there, and on the Imail list as well) and their listmaster 
posted this back:

>FWIW, that may just be generic advice from AOL, and not 
>specific to the problem they are having. 

>For at least a year or two, AOL has used the lack of a 
>reverse DNS entry to penalize E-mail as part of their 
>"secret" (undocumented) anti-spam system.  The lack of a 
>reverse DNS entry by itself won't cause an E-mail to 
>be deleted by AOL, but it is used as part of their anti-spam 
>formula (along with the publicly documented system at 
>http://postmaster.info.aol.com, which bounces E-mail rather 
>than deleting it). 

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-- Original Message --
from: "Mark W. Breneman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:04:09 -0600

>Is this a new issue?
>
>I remember an AOL issue almost a year ago about cfmail being blocked by AOL
>due to CF could be used as a Spam engine.  I did not verify that actually
>happened or if it was just a rumor.
>
>>From what I remember you could use a  the mail generator in the header of the email.
>
>Again, I did not verify that this works or if it was just a rumor.
>
>Mark W. Breneman
>-Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
>-Network / Web Server Administrator
>  Vivid Media
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  www.vividmedia.com
>  608.270.9770
>
>-----Original Message-
>From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:42 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
>
>
>Did they say that they had implemented a change, or what they're doing?
>This is completely irresponsible of a network administration to simply
>implement something that could effect millions, without so much as a
>warning, URL as to where we could find info... SOMEthing.
>
>Completely insane
>
>| -Original Message-
>| From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>| Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:30 AM
>| To: CF-Talk
>| Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
>|
>|
>| I am clueless about it
>|
>| I called AOL and their tech advised me to make RDNS entries
>| for every domain then wait 24 hours and try again
>|
>|
>|
>| -Original Message-
>| From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>| Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:26 PM
>| To: CF-Talk
>| Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
>|
>|
>| Has anyone resolved the issue with AOL?  We are still
>| completely unable to send email to any AOL addresses.  Our
>| servers are not on any lists that we can find, and we RDNS perfectly.
>|
>|
>|
>|
>
>
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RE: AOL? (Resolved?)

2002-12-19 Thread Mark W. Breneman
Is this a new issue?

I remember an AOL issue almost a year ago about cfmail being blocked by AOL
due to CF could be used as a Spam engine.  I did not verify that actually
happened or if it was just a rumor.

>From what I remember you could use a  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)


Did they say that they had implemented a change, or what they're doing?
This is completely irresponsible of a network administration to simply
implement something that could effect millions, without so much as a
warning, URL as to where we could find info... SOMEthing.

Completely insane

| -Original Message-
| From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:30 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
|
|
| I am clueless about it
|
| I called AOL and their tech advised me to make RDNS entries
| for every domain then wait 24 hours and try again
|
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:26 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
|
|
| Has anyone resolved the issue with AOL?  We are still
| completely unable to send email to any AOL addresses.  Our
| servers are not on any lists that we can find, and we RDNS perfectly.
|
|
|
|

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RE: AOL? (Resolved?)

2002-12-19 Thread Lee Fuller
Did they say that they had implemented a change, or what they're doing?
This is completely irresponsible of a network administration to simply
implement something that could effect millions, without so much as a
warning, URL as to where we could find info... SOMEthing.

Completely insane

| -Original Message-
| From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:30 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
| 
| 
| I am clueless about it
| 
| I called AOL and their tech advised me to make RDNS entries 
| for every domain then wait 24 hours and try again
| 
| 
| 
| -Original Message-
| From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:26 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)
| 
| 
| Has anyone resolved the issue with AOL?  We are still 
| completely unable to send email to any AOL addresses.  Our 
| servers are not on any lists that we can find, and we RDNS perfectly.
| 
| 
| 
| 
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RE: AOL? (Resolved?)

2002-12-19 Thread Kris Pilles
I am clueless about it

I called AOL and their tech advised me to make RDNS entries for every
domain then wait 24 hours and try again



-Original Message-
From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: AOL? (Resolved?)


Has anyone resolved the issue with AOL?  We are still completely unable
to send email to any AOL addresses.  Our servers are not on any lists
that we can find, and we RDNS perfectly.



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RE: AOL? (Resolved?)

2002-12-19 Thread Lee Fuller
Has anyone resolved the issue with AOL?  We are still completely unable
to send email to any AOL addresses.  Our servers are not on any lists
that we can find, and we RDNS perfectly.


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