Re: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-01 Thread David E. Crawford

Not that I have seen.

Dave Crawford
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer


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> Is there a difference (that can be seen by a third party) between an
Allaire
> Certified Developer that passed the test and one that _aced_ the test?
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RE: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> Is there a difference (that can be seen by a third party) between
> an Allaire Certified Developer that passed the test and one that
> _aced_ the test?

That smug air that they exude?

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Re: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Cary Gordon

Possibly

At 08:23 PM 3/1/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Is there a difference (that can be seen by a third party) between an Allaire
>Certified Developer that passed the test and one that _aced_ the test?
>
>  jj


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RE: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Robert Long

I would think there is about as much difference as a 
doctor who simply passed and one who _aced_ everything. :)

The use of a doctor for my example is a bit extreme, but 
you get my point. hehe

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Not that I have seen.

Dave Crawford
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer


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From: "Jay Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 23:23
Subject: Allaire Cert Question


> Is there a difference (that can be seen by a third party) between an
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> Certified Developer that passed the test and one that _aced_ the test?
>
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RE: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Stewart McGowan

Stand back I have the power of certification at my
fingertips


Regards


Stew
(back from vacation)

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RE: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Dave Watts

> > > Is there a difference (that can be seen by a third party) 
> > > between an Allaire Certified Developer that passed the 
> > > test and one that _aced_ the test?
> > 
> > > Not that I have seen.
>
> I would think there is about as much difference as a 
> doctor who simply passed and one who _aced_ everything. :)
> 
> The use of a doctor for my example is a bit extreme, but 
> you get my point. hehe

So, did your doctor ace everything? How would you know that? Rather than how
he tested, wouldn't his patient track record be a more useful indicator of
his abilities as a doctor? (You know, no trail of dead patients behind him.)

Besides, the Allaire certification test just tests how well you can answer
questions about CF. It doesn't test your aptitude for developing CF
applications, that's for sure.

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RE: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Philip Arnold - ASP

> Besides, the Allaire certification test just tests how well you can answer
> questions about CF. It doesn't test your aptitude for developing CF
> applications, that's for sure.

Also it's a test of what they want to hear, not real world

There are several questions where there are 2 or 3 real answers and they say
there's only one...

The problem is that it just means you can answer parrot fashion, doesn't
mean you can build a whole website for a client and how good it'll be

> So, did your doctor ace everything? How would you know that? Rather than
how
> he tested, wouldn't his patient track record be a more useful indicator of
> his abilities as a doctor? (You know, no trail of dead patients behind
him.)

Look, no dead bodies behind me...  

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RE: Allaire Cert Question

2001-03-02 Thread Robert Long

That's basically my point. I don't know if my dentist had a 4.0 gpa
or a 3.0. But he has the same certificate as the other guy. 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Allaire Cert Question


> > > Is there a difference (that can be seen by a third party) 
> > > between an Allaire Certified Developer that passed the 
> > > test and one that _aced_ the test?
> > 
> > > Not that I have seen.
>
> I would think there is about as much difference as a 
> doctor who simply passed and one who _aced_ everything. :)
> 
> The use of a doctor for my example is a bit extreme, but 
> you get my point. hehe

So, did your doctor ace everything? How would you know that? Rather than how
he tested, wouldn't his patient track record be a more useful indicator of
his abilities as a doctor? (You know, no trail of dead patients behind him.)

Besides, the Allaire certification test just tests how well you can answer
questions about CF. It doesn't test your aptitude for developing CF
applications, that's for sure.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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fax: (202) 797-5444
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