Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
On Tuesday 21 February 2006 14:27, Ray Champagne wrote: > So, did you? :) Yeah, nice me :-) > BTW, this is quite the old post at this point, isn't it? I was > surprised to see it revived! I've been busy - just gotta go comment on that Microsoft buying Macromedia thread and I should be all caught up ;-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232999 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
Well, good point, I don't know. I guess what I gleaned from the original post was that this was the first place you posted. I'm pretty sure that others got the same vibe, but I can't speak for them. Usually, ppl put the disclaimer that they tried to contact the webmaster with the error, but since they didn't get back to them, blah blah blah. So, did you? :) BTW, this is quite the old post at this point, isn't it? I was surprised to see it revived! Thomas Chiverton wrote: > On Thursday 02 February 2006 14:31, Ray Champagne wrote: >> This probably would have been better sent to them first, dontcha think? > > How do you know I didn't ? > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232989 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
On Thursday 02 February 2006 14:31, Ray Champagne wrote: > This probably would have been better sent to them first, dontcha think? How do you know I didn't ? -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:232988 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Thanks for the further explanation, Gert... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:40 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: AW: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > As i mentioned in a post before. > If you use CFMX you can not separate Webs from another. Every web can > see all the datasources, mappings and cfx-tags, and all security > settings are globally. If a user knows the datasource of another web, he > can access it. The only possibility you have is to define all > datasources with a readonly user and use the username and password > attribute of the cfquery-tag in order to control it. > > There is no local administrator for all webs you have. And every web has > all ist settings defined in its own web-inf/railo/railo-web.xml (usable > for instance for export). > > But i must admit, if you don't care about these security issues, then > CFMX is from a pricely point of view definitely the better choice... > > Gert ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231154 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Information leakage (was: RE: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1))
True, but at least it doesn't show the username and password, mostly because they were smart and kept it in the application.cfm or something... but the fact that the debugger shows that to the public is an issue, if someone for example wasn't as smart and hardcoded those values in the cfquery tag... > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Information leakage (was: RE: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)) > > > You're right, they should have set up better error messages, > > but there isn't anything really useful that you can glean > > from this error message... > > That's not entirely true. The error message indicates file paths, and that > they're using JDBC and MySQL. That's none of our business, and along with > other information may indicate potential attack paths. > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ > > Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized > instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, > Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. > Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231149 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
The problem I see with this is that I'm able to run as many sites as I want with Adobe's CF Professional version with a central administrative interface for about $1250 ($750 or so upgrade)...if I go to Railo's Enterprise version to run many websites, then I'm paying around $2000... What, then, is the Railo benefit? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:58 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: AW: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > In fact only, if they are below a certain webroot. > > The problem with CFMX is, that you can "see" all the Customtags and > Databases if you use one global CF installation. To separate these from > another we use Railo webs, each one differently configurable. > In your case you could use a professional version with a switch in your > application.cfm having all your applications stored below your webroot, > or (the better way) you could use the enterprise version with as many > webroots as you like... > > Cheers Gert ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231141 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
That is kind of an interesting approach A "small" CF engine for one website. I can see some people may be interested in this approach. Yves On 2/2/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes you're right, > > We sell only J2EE versions running on any Java Application server. The > biggest advantage of the enterprise version is, that you have a server > administrator, where you can set up things like: > - global datasources for all railo-webs > - global mappings > - global custom tags > - global cfx tags > - global security settings or individual for each web > > With every version of railo you can set up JSP and Railo Tag libraries > and Railo function libraries. You don't need to use the each cfm-file. Once globally defined, you can use it anywhere. > > I would advise anyone who wants to run more than 5-10 different webs, > that he should buy the enterprise version, in order to manage all webs > from a central point (server administrator). > If you use the professional version, you only have for instance 9 single > railos... With no server administrator. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards > > Gert Franz > > Customer Support > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.railo.ch > Meet us at CeBIT 2006 > Hall 3, Stand D39 > March 09-15, 2006 > Hannover Germany > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231135 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Information leakage (was: RE: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1))
> You're right, they should have set up better error messages, > but there isn't anything really useful that you can glean > from this error message... That's not entirely true. The error message indicates file paths, and that they're using JDBC and MySQL. That's none of our business, and along with other information may indicate potential attack paths. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231134 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
I certainly agree that it would great to have some standards. However, I would be willing to work around some of the differences to save 80% of the cost...but the "added features" above the standards would be what separates the new providers of CFML engines from the established. The new features (that should go above standards, no in place of) and lower cost is what brings in the money. I'd certainly give Railo a shot at earning my $250 to upgrade from my current and happily functioning CF version 4.5.2 before I'd give Adobe another $750 or so for an upgrade... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Roberson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:12 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Multiple CFML engines can become problematic when their creators begin > to introduce a plethora of new proprietary tags and lack support for > common tags. HTML would have seen it's demise a long time ago if the > W3C was never formed to create standards that browser companies are > practically obligated to conform to. > > I don't know how or in what fashion, but I think a consortium should > be formed to govern the CFML tag base. Then it would be up to Adobe, > New Atlanta, and the folks from Railo to conform to the standards set > up by the CFML consortium. > > What do you think? > > -Aaron > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231125 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
Multiple CFML engines can become problematic when their creators begin to introduce a plethora of new proprietary tags and lack support for common tags. HTML would have seen it's demise a long time ago if the W3C was never formed to create standards that browser companies are practically obligated to conform to. I don't know how or in what fashion, but I think a consortium should be formed to govern the CFML tag base. Then it would be up to Adobe, New Atlanta, and the folks from Railo to conform to the standards set up by the CFML consortium. What do you think? -Aaron On 2/2/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who not? Competition seems good, especially if a competent > competitor has a price of $250 instead of $1250... > > Why do you think it would be a negative to have another engine? > > Rick > > > -Original Message- > > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:25 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > On a side, do we really need another CFML parsing engine? I mean > > what is the > > MO here? > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231122 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
> I just died with a timeout. Hmm, you timed out...is that similar to a heart attack? I guess you can't answer that anyway if you're dead. - [INFO] -- Access Manager: This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A2 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231119 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Who not? Competition seems good, especially if a competent competitor has a price of $250 instead of $1250... Why do you think it would be a negative to have another engine? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:25 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > On a side, do we really need another CFML parsing engine? I mean > what is the > MO here? > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231117 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
On a side, do we really need another CFML parsing engine? I mean what is the MO here? -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 15:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Bluedragon 6.1 It is only free for non-commercial use (non-ssl). -Original Message- From: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 15:28 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 New Atlanta has always said Blue Dragon Server will always be free for development and production. Blue Dragon JX, J2EE, and .Net are their pay-for-play CFML products. David McCan wrote: > Last time I looked, the free version of Blue Dragon was still available on the New Atlanta ftp site: > > ftp://ftp.newatlanta.com > > For how long? > > David > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231114 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
Yeah...it eats jmuffins -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 15:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1) On Thursday 02 February 2006 00:40, Jordan Michaels wrote: > I look forward to seeing what Ralio is going for (in USD) when the new > site is up. I look forward to the Ralio guys configuring their web site correctly. I just died with a timeout, and told me all about their code: Message Communication link failure: railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, request is run into a timeout and has been stopped Context The Error Occurred in /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/jmuffin/data/struct/index.cfm: line 57 called from /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/en/index.cfm: line 4 Code 55: 56: select treeID from area,tree 57: where area.code='#area#' 58: and tree.parentID=0 59: and area.areaID=tree.areaID -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231113 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
On Thursday 02 February 2006 00:40, Jordan Michaels wrote: > I look forward to seeing what Ralio is going for (in USD) when the new > site is up. I look forward to the Ralio guys configuring their web site correctly. I just died with a timeout, and told me all about their code: Message Communication link failure: railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, request is run into a timeout and has been stopped Context The Error Occurred in /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/jmuffin/data/struct/index.cfm: line 57 called from /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/en/index.cfm: line 4 Code 55: 56: select treeID from area,tree 57: where area.code='#area#' 58: and tree.parentID=0 59: and area.areaID=tree.areaID -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231112 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
It is only free for non-commercial use (non-ssl). -Original Message- From: Jeff Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 15:28 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 New Atlanta has always said Blue Dragon Server will always be free for development and production. Blue Dragon JX, J2EE, and .Net are their pay-for-play CFML products. David McCan wrote: > Last time I looked, the free version of Blue Dragon was still available on the New Atlanta ftp site: > > ftp://ftp.newatlanta.com > > For how long? > > David > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:23 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
New Atlanta has always said Blue Dragon Server will always be free for development and production. Blue Dragon JX, J2EE, and .Net are their pay-for-play CFML products. David McCan wrote: > Last time I looked, the free version of Blue Dragon was still available on > the New Atlanta ftp site: > > ftp://ftp.newatlanta.com > > For how long? > > David > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231110 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
You're right, they should have set up better error messages, but there isn't anything really useful that you can glean from this error message... > -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 9:31 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1) > > This probably would have been better sent to them first, dontcha think? > I mean, a site shouldn't be set up so that one can glean info from > their error messages, but I think you should let them know about the > problem before posting the info to a public forum. > > Thomas Chiverton wrote: > > On Thursday 02 February 2006 00:40, Jordan Michaels wrote: > >> I look forward to seeing what Ralio is going for (in USD) when the new > >> site is up. > > > > I look forward to the Ralio guys configuring their web site correctly. > > I just died with a timeout, and told me all about their code: > > > > Message Communication link failure: > railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, > > request is run into a timeout and has been stopped > > Context The Error Occurred in > > /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/jmuffin/data/struct/index.cfm: line 57 > > called from /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/en/index.cfm: line 4 > > Code 55: > datasource="#application.datasource#" username="#application.userName#" > > password="#application.passWord#"> > > 56: select treeID from area,tree > > 57: where area.code='#area#' > > 58: and tree.parentID=0 > > 59: and area.areaID=tree.areaID > > > > Java Stacktrace > > railo.runtime.exp.DatabaseException: Communication link failure: > > railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, request is run into a timeout > and has > > been stopped > > at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1862) > > at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1831) > > at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.doHandshake(MysqlIO.java:896) > > at com.mysql.jdbc.Connection.createNewIO(Connection.java:1654) > > at com.mysql.jdbc.Connection.(Connection.java:432) > > at > > > com.mysql.jdbc.NonRegisteringDriver.connect(NonRegisteringDriver.java:400) > > at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:512) > > at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:171) > > at railo.runtime.config.Config.getConnection(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.db.ConnectionPool.get(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.db.Manager.getConnection(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.tag.Query.a(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.tag.Query.doEndTag(Unknown Source) > > at > > jmuffin.data.struct.index_cfm.call(jmuffin.data.struct.index_cfm:287) > > at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) > > at en.index_cfm.call(en.index_cfm:37) > > at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.PageContext.execute(Unknown Source) > > at railo.runtime.engine.CFMLEngineImpl.serviceCFML(Unknown > Source) > > at railo.loader.servlet.CFMLServlet.service(CFMLServlet.java:32) > > at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:856) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(Applicati > onFilterChain.java:284) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilter > Chain.java:204) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve. > java:257) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveCont > ext.java:151) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567 > ) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(StandardConte > xtValve.java:245) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve. > java:199) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveCont > ext.java:151) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567 > ) > > at > > > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:1 > 84) > > at >
Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
This probably would have been better sent to them first, dontcha think? I mean, a site shouldn't be set up so that one can glean info from their error messages, but I think you should let them know about the problem before posting the info to a public forum. Thomas Chiverton wrote: > On Thursday 02 February 2006 00:40, Jordan Michaels wrote: >> I look forward to seeing what Ralio is going for (in USD) when the new >> site is up. > > I look forward to the Ralio guys configuring their web site correctly. > I just died with a timeout, and told me all about their code: > > Message Communication link failure: railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, > request is run into a timeout and has been stopped > Context The Error Occurred in > /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/jmuffin/data/struct/index.cfm: line 57 > called from /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/en/index.cfm: line 4 > Code 55: datasource="#application.datasource#" username="#application.userName#" > password="#application.passWord#"> > 56: select treeID from area,tree > 57: where area.code='#area#' > 58: and tree.parentID=0 > 59: and area.areaID=tree.areaID > > Java Stacktrace > railo.runtime.exp.DatabaseException: Communication link failure: > railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, request is run into a timeout and has > been stopped > at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1862) > at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1831) > at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.doHandshake(MysqlIO.java:896) > at com.mysql.jdbc.Connection.createNewIO(Connection.java:1654) > at com.mysql.jdbc.Connection.(Connection.java:432) > at > com.mysql.jdbc.NonRegisteringDriver.connect(NonRegisteringDriver.java:400) > at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:512) > at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:171) > at railo.runtime.config.Config.getConnection(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.db.ConnectionPool.get(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.db.Manager.getConnection(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.tag.Query.a(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.tag.Query.doEndTag(Unknown Source) > at > jmuffin.data.struct.index_cfm.call(jmuffin.data.struct.index_cfm:287) > at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) > at en.index_cfm.call(en.index_cfm:37) > at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.PageContext.execute(Unknown Source) > at railo.runtime.engine.CFMLEngineImpl.serviceCFML(Unknown Source) > at railo.loader.servlet.CFMLServlet.service(CFMLServlet.java:32) > at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:856) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:284) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:204) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:257) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(StandardContextValve.java:245) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:199) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:184) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) > at > org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:164) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:149) > at > org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:578) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:149) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:156) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) > at > org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:972) > at > org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:206) > at > org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Pro
Re: Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
On Thursday 02 February 2006 00:40, Jordan Michaels wrote: > I look forward to seeing what Ralio is going for (in USD) when the new > site is up. I look forward to the Ralio guys configuring their web site correctly. I just died with a timeout, and told me all about their code: Message Communication link failure: railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, request is run into a timeout and has been stopped Context The Error Occurred in /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/jmuffin/data/struct/index.cfm: line 57 called from /usr/virtual/railoch/public_html/en/index.cfm: line 4 Code 55: 56: select treeID from area,tree 57: where area.code='#area#' 58: and tree.parentID=0 59: and area.areaID=tree.areaID Java Stacktrace railo.runtime.exp.DatabaseException: Communication link failure: railo.runtime.exp.PageRuntimeException, request is run into a timeout and has been stopped at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1862) at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1831) at com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.doHandshake(MysqlIO.java:896) at com.mysql.jdbc.Connection.createNewIO(Connection.java:1654) at com.mysql.jdbc.Connection.(Connection.java:432) at com.mysql.jdbc.NonRegisteringDriver.connect(NonRegisteringDriver.java:400) at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:512) at java.sql.DriverManager.getConnection(DriverManager.java:171) at railo.runtime.config.Config.getConnection(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.db.ConnectionPool.get(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.db.Manager.getConnection(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.tag.Query.a(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.tag.Query.doEndTag(Unknown Source) at jmuffin.data.struct.index_cfm.call(jmuffin.data.struct.index_cfm:287) at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) at en.index_cfm.call(en.index_cfm:37) at railo.runtime.PageContext.include(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.PageContext.execute(Unknown Source) at railo.runtime.engine.CFMLEngineImpl.serviceCFML(Unknown Source) at railo.loader.servlet.CFMLServlet.service(CFMLServlet.java:32) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:856) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:284) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:204) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:257) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invokeInternal(StandardContextValve.java:245) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:199) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:184) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:164) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:149) at org.apache.catalina.valves.AccessLogValve.invoke(AccessLogValve.java:578) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:149) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:156) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardValveContext.invokeNext(StandardValveContext.java:151) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(StandardPipeline.java:567) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(ContainerBase.java:972) at org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:206) at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor.process(Http11Processor.java:833) at org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Protocol$Http11ConnectionHandler.processConnection(Http11Protocol.java:732) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:619) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:688) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231100 Archives: http://www.h
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Thanks for the explanation, Chris! I'll have to give Railo a try! Rick > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:47 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > Just so I understand better...Railo essentially > > replaces > > the CF server itself and processes pages, etc., > > like > > the server? > > Correct. > > > Also, I asked earlier about Railo's > > pricing...Gert mentioned > > that the cost for the "Professional" version > > would be > > 100 euros which would handle one "web"... I was > > trying to > > find out if he ment one website or one web > > server. > > Actually I think it was EUR 200,- for the "basic" version > including 1 web, and > EUR 100,- for each additional web. But, I haven't looked at the > prices for some > time. ;-) > > As far as I understood it from discussions during a presentation here in > Germany, you can translate "1 web" to "1 web server document root > directory". > Could again be translated to "1 domain" or "1 virtual host". > > Gert, please correct me, if I am wrong here! > > > Can you provide an answer? Not many details on > > the > > Railo site... (hint, hint, Gert...) > > True. Definitely. But, I know the guys are very busy with their > software, and > they have repeatedly postponed the relaunch of their own site in order to > satisfy CFML developer requests. As long as I can get an answer > vial email, I > personally prefer it this way. ;-) > > Best > > Chris > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231096 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Thanks for the explanation, Adam... So, for me, running a single webserver (1 processor) hosting about 20 sites, only one instance of CF...I would only need the professional version about $250 USD to host the 20 sites... Right? > -Original Message- > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:58 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > They used to have a nice graphic that explained how Railo could > run. After a > quick run through the site I don't see it anywhere. I think I agree with > chirs: "1 web server document root directory." > > I'll explain it how it would work where I work. We have a nice > big box that > we use and it runs Jboss application server. Inside of that we run 10 > instances of CFMX 7. This allows each department to use the same box, less > hardware and few MX licenses. Since each department has thier own instance > of CF running it keeps each department, theoretically, from > messing up each > others websites. > > So if we got the professional version: > 200 Euro > + 9 extra webs = 1,100 Euro > > Enterprise Version: > 1,600 Euro. > > In USD that's about 250 for one instance + 125 per each > additional instance > and about 2,000 for the enterprise. Remember though these figures > could be a > bit lower or higher depending on how much the conversion over to > euro was at > the time and the broker fee ect. I like to use XE.com to get my estimates. > > The way they are licensing Railo is different than many j2ee > apps. Most j2ee > apps are licensed per CPU. Railo seems to be going per instance. In > comparison since our servers are quad processors we have to have > 2 licenses > per server from Adobe (but we can launch as many instances as we want). > Where as we would only need 1 license from Railo for the server but if we > wanted to deploy a bunch of instances we may go for the enterprise license > as opposed to the professional licence. At least that is my understanding > Gert, of course, could mean something completely different and I could be > completely wrong. > > Adam > > Adam H > > On 2/1/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just so I understand better...Railo essentially replaces > > the CF server itself and processes pages, etc., like > > the server? > > > > Also, I asked earlier about Railo's pricing...Gert mentioned > > that the cost for the "Professional" version would be > > 100 euros which would handle one "web"... I was trying to > > find out if he ment one website or one web server. > > > > Can you provide an answer? Not many details on the > > Railo site... (hint, hint, Gert...) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Rick > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:30 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > > > > I just want to give a thumbs up for Railo. I've been tinkering around > > with > > > it since one of the alphas quite a while back. Its a great little > > engine. > > > I've been working with Model-Glue in it for a little while runs > > > like a champ > > > from what I've seen. I plan on putting reactor on it some time later > > this > > > week and run some tests I'll blog about it when I get some > results back > > > about it. > > > > > > Adam H > > > > > > On 2/1/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > > > > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > > > > The free community version can be redistributed. > > > > > > > > www.railo.ch > > > > > > > > > > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > > > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > > > > An: CF-Talk > > > > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial > enviorment, though > > > > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. > under the > > > > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
They used to have a nice graphic that explained how Railo could run. After a quick run through the site I don't see it anywhere. I think I agree with chirs: "1 web server document root directory." I'll explain it how it would work where I work. We have a nice big box that we use and it runs Jboss application server. Inside of that we run 10 instances of CFMX 7. This allows each department to use the same box, less hardware and few MX licenses. Since each department has thier own instance of CF running it keeps each department, theoretically, from messing up each others websites. So if we got the professional version: 200 Euro + 9 extra webs = 1,100 Euro Enterprise Version: 1,600 Euro. In USD that's about 250 for one instance + 125 per each additional instance and about 2,000 for the enterprise. Remember though these figures could be a bit lower or higher depending on how much the conversion over to euro was at the time and the broker fee ect. I like to use XE.com to get my estimates. The way they are licensing Railo is different than many j2ee apps. Most j2ee apps are licensed per CPU. Railo seems to be going per instance. In comparison since our servers are quad processors we have to have 2 licenses per server from Adobe (but we can launch as many instances as we want). Where as we would only need 1 license from Railo for the server but if we wanted to deploy a bunch of instances we may go for the enterprise license as opposed to the professional licence. At least that is my understanding Gert, of course, could mean something completely different and I could be completely wrong. Adam Adam H On 2/1/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just so I understand better...Railo essentially replaces > the CF server itself and processes pages, etc., like > the server? > > Also, I asked earlier about Railo's pricing...Gert mentioned > that the cost for the "Professional" version would be > 100 euros which would handle one "web"... I was trying to > find out if he ment one website or one web server. > > Can you provide an answer? Not many details on the > Railo site... (hint, hint, Gert...) > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:30 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > I just want to give a thumbs up for Railo. I've been tinkering around > with > > it since one of the alphas quite a while back. Its a great little > engine. > > I've been working with Model-Glue in it for a little while runs > > like a champ > > from what I've seen. I plan on putting reactor on it some time later > this > > week and run some tests I'll blog about it when I get some results back > > about it. > > > > Adam H > > > > On 2/1/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > > > The free community version can be redistributed. > > > > > > www.railo.ch > > > > > > > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > > > An: CF-Talk > > > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > > > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > > > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > > > could let me download please? > > > > > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231091 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
> Just so I understand better...Railo essentially > replaces > the CF server itself and processes pages, etc., > like > the server? Correct. > Also, I asked earlier about Railo's > pricing...Gert mentioned > that the cost for the "Professional" version > would be > 100 euros which would handle one "web"... I was > trying to > find out if he ment one website or one web > server. Actually I think it was EUR 200,- for the "basic" version including 1 web, and EUR 100,- for each additional web. But, I haven't looked at the prices for some time. ;-) As far as I understood it from discussions during a presentation here in Germany, you can translate "1 web" to "1 web server document root directory". Could again be translated to "1 domain" or "1 virtual host". Gert, please correct me, if I am wrong here! > Can you provide an answer? Not many details on > the > Railo site... (hint, hint, Gert...) True. Definitely. But, I know the guys are very busy with their software, and they have repeatedly postponed the relaunch of their own site in order to satisfy CFML developer requests. As long as I can get an answer vial email, I personally prefer it this way. ;-) Best Chris ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231075 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
Last time I looked, the free version of Blue Dragon was still available on the New Atlanta ftp site: ftp://ftp.newatlanta.com For how long? David ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231065 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Just so I understand better...Railo essentially replaces the CF server itself and processes pages, etc., like the server? Also, I asked earlier about Railo's pricing...Gert mentioned that the cost for the "Professional" version would be 100 euros which would handle one "web"... I was trying to find out if he ment one website or one web server. Can you provide an answer? Not many details on the Railo site... (hint, hint, Gert...) Thanks, Rick > -Original Message- > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:30 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > I just want to give a thumbs up for Railo. I've been tinkering around with > it since one of the alphas quite a while back. Its a great little engine. > I've been working with Model-Glue in it for a little while runs > like a champ > from what I've seen. I plan on putting reactor on it some time later this > week and run some tests I'll blog about it when I get some results back > about it. > > Adam H > > On 2/1/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > > The free community version can be redistributed. > > > > www.railo.ch > > > > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > > An: CF-Talk > > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > > could let me download please? > > > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231062 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Ralio (was Re: Bluedragon 6.1)
The BlueDragon 6.1 title to this message is somewhat misleading. ;) I look forward to seeing what Ralio is going for (in USD) when the new site is up. -JM Adam Haskell wrote: >I just want to give a thumbs up for Railo. I've been tinkering around with >it since one of the alphas quite a while back. Its a great little engine. >I've been working with Model-Glue in it for a little while runs like a champ >from what I've seen. I plan on putting reactor on it some time later this >week and run some tests I'll blog about it when I get some results back >about it. > >Adam H > >On 2/1/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Hi Andy, >> >>Why don't you give Railo a try... >>The free community version can be redistributed. >> >>www.railo.ch >> >>>location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> >> >> >> >>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >>Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 >>An: CF-Talk >>Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 >> >> >>I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though >>the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the >>new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement >> >> >> >> >> >>On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Andy Jarrett wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they >>>>could let me download please? >>>> >>>> >>>Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot >>>redistribute the free edition. >>> >>>That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. >>> >>>Rick >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231061 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
I just want to give a thumbs up for Railo. I've been tinkering around with it since one of the alphas quite a while back. Its a great little engine. I've been working with Model-Glue in it for a little while runs like a champ from what I've seen. I plan on putting reactor on it some time later this week and run some tests I'll blog about it when I get some results back about it. Adam H On 2/1/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Andy, > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > The free community version can be redistributed. > > www.railo.ch > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > An: CF-Talk > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > could let me download please? > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:231058 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
Cheers Gert, I've been playing around and it looks good. To echo's Rick's comments, when you say one web, is that one website or one web server? Also will the community edition be allowed to be used for commercial purposes (keeping within the one datasource rule?) Cheers Andy J On 01/02/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gert, > > When you write "one Web" for the Professional version, are you > referring to web servers or websites? > > Rick > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230996 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Gert, When you write "one Web" for the Professional version, are you referring to web servers or websites? Rick > -Original Message- > From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:03 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: AW: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Hi Andy, > > The File you downloaded is one of our last Betas. We will release Railo > in the next couple of Weeks. Railo Supports Fusebox up to 4.1, Mach II > and Model Glue Frameworks. Some CMS already have been tested > sucessfully. > > Pricing looks something like this: > Developer, Community Version is free. (No CFX, No Search, 1 Datasource > per Web) > Professional Version 200 including one Web. Every further web 100 > Enterprise Version 1600 unlimited webs. > > Check out www.railo.ch for the next two weeks to find out when we > release Railo. > > Regards > > Gert Franz > > Customer Support > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.railo.ch > Meet us at CeBIT 2006 > Hall 3, Stand D39 > March 09-15, 2006 > Hannover Germany > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 16:42 > An: CF-Talk > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Cheers Gert. Im downloading now. My only hold up is that it seems to be > in beta still and im looking for a fully fledged engine. With that said > im still gonna give it a go :o) > > What are you future plans with railo in the way of pricing are you > planning on keeping this free? > > > > > > On 01/02/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Andy, > > > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > > The free community version can be redistributed. > > > > www.railo.ch > > > > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > > An: CF-Talk > > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > > > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > > could let me download please? > > > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230969 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
In conversion to US dollars, how much is that? I worked the conversion, but was unsure what the monetary symbol you're using is... CZK? Thanks, Rick > -Original Message- > From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:03 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: AW: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Hi Andy, > > The File you downloaded is one of our last Betas. We will release Railo > in the next couple of Weeks. Railo Supports Fusebox up to 4.1, Mach II > and Model Glue Frameworks. Some CMS already have been tested > sucessfully. > > Pricing looks something like this: > Developer, Community Version is free. (No CFX, No Search, 1 Datasource > per Web) > Professional Version 200 including one Web. Every further web 100 > Enterprise Version 1600 unlimited webs. > > Check out www.railo.ch for the next two weeks to find out when we > release Railo. > > Regards > > Gert Franz > > Customer Support > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.railo.ch > Meet us at CeBIT 2006 > Hall 3, Stand D39 > March 09-15, 2006 > Hannover Germany > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 16:42 > An: CF-Talk > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Cheers Gert. Im downloading now. My only hold up is that it seems to be > in beta still and im looking for a fully fledged engine. With that said > im still gonna give it a go :o) > > What are you future plans with railo in the way of pricing are you > planning on keeping this free? > > > > > > On 01/02/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Andy, > > > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > > The free community version can be redistributed. > > > > www.railo.ch > > > > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > > An: CF-Talk > > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > > > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > > could let me download please? > > > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230968 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Bluedragon 6.1
Nevermind...found it...the euro... Rick > -Original Message- > From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 11:03 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: AW: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Hi Andy, > > The File you downloaded is one of our last Betas. We will release Railo > in the next couple of Weeks. Railo Supports Fusebox up to 4.1, Mach II > and Model Glue Frameworks. Some CMS already have been tested > sucessfully. > > Pricing looks something like this: > Developer, Community Version is free. (No CFX, No Search, 1 Datasource > per Web) > Professional Version 200 including one Web. Every further web 100 > Enterprise Version 1600 unlimited webs. > > Check out www.railo.ch for the next two weeks to find out when we > release Railo. > > Regards > > Gert Franz > > Customer Support > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.railo.ch > Meet us at CeBIT 2006 > Hall 3, Stand D39 > March 09-15, 2006 > Hannover Germany > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 16:42 > An: CF-Talk > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > Cheers Gert. Im downloading now. My only hold up is that it seems to be > in beta still and im looking for a fully fledged engine. With that said > im still gonna give it a go :o) > > What are you future plans with railo in the way of pricing are you > planning on keeping this free? > > > > > > On 01/02/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Andy, > > > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > > The free community version can be redistributed. > > > > www.railo.ch > > > > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > > An: CF-Talk > > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > > > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > > could let me download please? > > > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230966 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
Cheers Gert. Im downloading now. My only hold up is that it seems to be in beta still and im looking for a fully fledged engine. With that said im still gonna give it a go :o) What are you future plans with railo in the way of pricing are you planning on keeping this free? On 01/02/06, Gert Franz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Why don't you give Railo a try... > The free community version can be redistributed. > > www.railo.ch > > location="switzerland" function="railo core developer"> > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Andy Jarrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2006 11:41 > An: CF-Talk > Betreff: Re: Bluedragon 6.1 > > > I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though > the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the > new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement > > > > > > On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they > > > could let me download please? > > > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > > redistribute the free edition. > > > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230955 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
I want to set up a cheap CF server, in a commercial enviorment, though the [internal] site won't acutally be generating any money. under the new 6.2 licence this will break the licence agreement On 31/01/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Jarrett wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they could > > let me download please? > > Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot > redistribute the free edition. > > That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. > > Rick > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230926 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Bluedragon 6.1
Andy Jarrett wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody have a copy of BD 6.1 (the free edition) which they could > let me download please? Technically speaking, that would be illegal because you cannot redistribute the free edition. That being said, why would you want 6.1? Many bugs. Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:230852 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
