Re: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
From: Jordan Saardchit [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've always been a big fan of Rational's solution (clearcase), but it is slightly on the expensive side. I also hear that Starbase has an excellent solution. Might want to try lookin into those. We use clearcase here. Interestingly enough, CF Studio 4.5.2 broke the ability to talk to clearcase - it worked great in 4.5.1. When we reported the problem to our maintenance contract, the response was, basically, then don't use 4.5.2 ... -- Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem. Larry W. Virden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/ Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. -- ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Check out: http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=14856Method=Full That lets you know how to share projects - http://www.allaire.com/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=14802Method=Full lets you know how to set up a project in VSS/Homesite (aka studio) Depending on what working methodology you have in-house - it may be better to use something like (Hal forgive me!) fusebox instead - aarg! ;-) J -Original Message- From: Percy Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 July 2001 15:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Hello, Has anyone implemented SourceSafe under CF environment? I noticed that the CF server has a section for SourceControl, and don't really know how to implement. Any kind of suggestions on practices or pointers would be greatly appreciated. THank you all, Percy E Perez ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
I had it implemented in CF 4.5. My advice is don't integrate the 2. I managed to loose 2 days of work because the CF/VSS integration decided to go crazy. It completely wiped my working folders. -Original Message- From: Percy Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Hello, Has anyone implemented SourceSafe under CF environment? I noticed that the CF server has a section for SourceControl, and don't really know how to implement. Any kind of suggestions on practices or pointers would be greatly appreciated. THank you all, Percy E Perez ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Depending on what working methodology you have in-house - it may be better to use something like (Hal forgive me!) fusebox instead - aarg! ;-) Of course, you relise that fusebox is an application building methodology, and source safe is a way to protect you files, and therefore, 'instead' doesn't apply ? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
This would only happen if not setup correctly, using a separate server for VSS. I have used it, as described in the previous posts from the allaire site as well as on a single 2 machine environment (workstation, server) and had nightmares with it. The idea is to make sure that the repository is separate to the work files themselves. -Original Message- From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 17 July 2001 1:02 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe I had it implemented in CF 4.5. My advice is don't integrate the 2. I managed to loose 2 days of work because the CF/VSS integration decided to go crazy. It completely wiped my working folders. -Original Message- From: Percy Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Hello, Has anyone implemented SourceSafe under CF environment? I noticed that the CF server has a section for SourceControl, and don't really know how to implement. Any kind of suggestions on practices or pointers would be greatly appreciated. THank you all, Percy E Perez ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
its not all the difficult. If you create a SourceSafe DB, make sure you share its VSS_DATA folder. Then in coldfusion, create a new project, map it to source control by browsing to the srcsafe.ini file in the folder of your VSS DB. Though I'm not a big fan of VSS, that is how easy it is. Jordon -Original Message- From: Percy Perez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 7:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Hello, Has anyone implemented SourceSafe under CF environment? I noticed that the CF server has a section for SourceControl, and don't really know how to implement. Any kind of suggestions on practices or pointers would be greatly appreciated. THank you all, Percy E Perez ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Yup - knew that :) What I meant to imply was if Percy is using VSS within a development environment (using the roll-back ideology) purely to protect his build from external/part-time developers coming in and changing code (i.e. breaking it) - it may be easier to implement the working build practice of fusebox instead. And instead of breaking development work and having to roll-back to previous working versions - if he developed a working version of something he could re-use that code (aka fusebox). However, implementing VSS from scratch really depends on the development environment that Percy uses - if he already has a dev intranet site (for example) and his designers/developers are using this to build sites within then implementing VSS on top of that platform would mean a HUGE change of developmental practice, such as checking out versions of files for either local station development then checking them back in after working on them, or replacing his dev infra-structure with the lockable source safe/project scenario. If he's thinking of using VSS in the above light, it may be better (less money/working practice changes) to simply use a fusebox approach to development, combined with the use of projects within studio and back-ups of working folders - just a suggestion anyway... but, of course, being the lazy sod that I am I simply wrote 'instead'... ;) J -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 July 2001 16:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Depending on what working methodology you have in-house - it may be better to use something like (Hal forgive me!) fusebox instead - aarg! ;-) Of course, you relise that fusebox is an application building methodology, and source safe is a way to protect you files, and therefore, 'instead' doesn't apply ? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Jordan, is there a different source control system that you prefer? I am currently researching source control and as of this moment, I am considering VSS, StarTeam, and CRS. This is on a Win2K platform. Thanks! Avi At 09:27 AM 7/16/2001 -0700, Jordan Saardchit wrote: its not all the difficult. If you create a SourceSafe DB, make sure you share its VSS_DATA folder. Then in coldfusion, create a new project, map it to source control by browsing to the srcsafe.ini file in the folder of your VSS DB. Though I'm not a big fan of VSS, that is how easy it is. Jordon ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Or you could use Version Control software that supports concepts like branching, and merging for parallel development. -Original Message- From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Yup - knew that :) . What I meant to imply was if Percy is using VSS within a development environment (using the roll-back ideology) purely to protect his build from external/part-time developers coming in and changing code (i.e. breaking it) - it may be easier to implement the working build practice of fusebox instead. And instead of breaking development work and having to roll-back to previous working versions - if he developed a working version of something he could re-use that code (aka fusebox). However, implementing VSS from scratch really depends on the development environment that Percy uses - if he already has a dev intranet site (for example) and his designers/developers are using this to build sites within then implementing VSS on top of that platform would mean a HUGE change of developmental practice, such as checking out versions of files for either local station development then checking them back in after working on them, or replacing his dev infra-structure with the lockable source safe/project scenario. If he's thinking of using VSS in the above light, it may be better (less money/working practice changes) to simply use a fusebox approach to development, combined with the use of projects within studio and back-ups of working folders - just a suggestion anyway... but, of course, being the lazy sod that I am I simply wrote 'instead'... ;) J -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 July 2001 16:23 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Depending on what working methodology you have in-house - it may be better to use something like (Hal forgive me!) fusebox instead - aarg! ;-) Of course, you relise that fusebox is an application building methodology, and source safe is a way to protect you files, and therefore, 'instead' doesn't apply ? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
I've always been a big fan of Rational's solution (clearcase), but it is slightly on the expensive side. I also hear that Starbase has an excellent solution. Might want to try lookin into those. Jordon -Original Message- From: Avi Flax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe Jordan, is there a different source control system that you prefer? I am currently researching source control and as of this moment, I am considering VSS, StarTeam, and CRS. This is on a Win2K platform. Thanks! Avi At 09:27 AM 7/16/2001 -0700, Jordan Saardchit wrote: its not all the difficult. If you create a SourceSafe DB, make sure you share its VSS_DATA folder. Then in coldfusion, create a new project, map it to source control by browsing to the srcsafe.ini file in the folder of your VSS DB. Though I'm not a big fan of VSS, that is how easy it is. Jordon ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF 4.5 and SourceSafe
Hi Percy, I've been using Studio and Visual Source Safe together for the last three years (almost), and have never experienced any problems, except the ones that were that were released with CF4.5 when it first came out, where you couldn't see what was checked out and in! I have a two machine network, both running NT4 server. My desktop machine runs Sourcesafe, storing it's repository on a partitioned drive which gets backed up frequently. The files are checked out to the working directories on the 'server' and I work off those. A bit back to front I know, but it's mainly to protect the repository from people attempting to come in from the internet, but also to expose the sites to clients so they can see the development. Works for me!! And I haven't experienced any loss of data or anything similar problems Nick on 17/7/01 12:45 AM, Percy Perez at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Has anyone implemented SourceSafe under CF environment? I noticed that the CF server has a section for SourceControl, and don't really know how to implement. Any kind of suggestions on practices or pointers would be greatly appreciated. THank you all, Percy E Perez ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
