RE: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
This is just s quick note to look for some possibilities... Have you checked the performance counters to see if pages are getting queued up? -Justin Scott | GravityFree Senior Programmer / Product Engineer 1960 Stickney Point Road, Second Floor Sarasota | FL | 34231 | 800.207.4431 941.927.7674 | f 941.923.5429 www.GravityFree.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235337 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Have you checked the performance counters to see if pages are getting queued up? -Justin Scott | GravityFree Performance counters? I haven't heard that term in relation to CF before...can you elaborate? Thanks Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235344 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
If it is the network, then it will affect all page request, not just .cfm, so test regular htm pages How is the cpu and memory usage of jrun? -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2006 16:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 7 upgrade BAD! Hey All, This is just s quick note to look for some possibilities... A client upgraded 2 production servers over the weekend. I was using the servers just after the upgrade and all was well. Yesterday they started running REALLY slow (pages that would pop almost instantly now take upwards of a minute to render!!! A few things to note: 1) Debugigng I turned on debugging and found a page processed in 16 mstook about a minute to display. I take this to mean that CF is processing as it should, but perhaps the hand off to IIS is slow? or a network issue? 2) Rebooting No noticeable change in speed 3) Applying the latest 7.0.1 updater to all servers No noticeable change in speed 4) Removing and restoring connections to iis as per this link: http://groups.google.ca/group/macromedia.coldfusion.server_administration/br owse_thread/thread/13e7a37d41fa148d/50329c2390ab0ffc%2350329c2390ab0ffc?sa=X oi=groupsrstart=0num=3 No noticeable change in speed 5) Tried running app through localhost and it did run fastso my bet is it's NOT the server at all, but the network/firewall/ISP etc So I'm just kicking off my own research, but any ideas welcome FYI Windows 2K PIII 1.2 GHz 1 GB RAM TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235346 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Performance counters? I haven't heard that term in relation to CF before...can you elaborate? Load the performance monitor in Windows, then add counters. There should be a ColdFusion entry in the selector list, then you can add the individual counters (avg page time, avg db time, queued pages, etc). Very handy for monitoring specific aspects of the CF service. -Justin Scott | GravityFree Senior Programmer / Product Engineer 1960 Stickney Point Road, Second Floor Sarasota | FL | 34231 | 800.207.4431 941.927.7674 | f 941.923.5429 www.GravityFree.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235349 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Within IIS, the JRunScripts is pointing to D:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1, but Jrun filter in ISAPI filters is pointing to D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. I guess the connecters don't solve the above eh ;-) Anyways...firing on all cylinders!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235350 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
ahhh...gothca now justinthanks Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235351 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
That is correct Bryan, the JRUNscripts virtual directory should be pointing there, presuming u only have the one instance of jrun. As it is a virtual directory it has to point at a folder, it cannot point at a file. In fact I don't even know how you could point the vdir at D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. Russ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2006 17:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! Within IIS, the JRunScripts is pointing to D:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1, but Jrun filter in ISAPI filters is pointing to D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. I guess the connecters don't solve the above eh ;-) Anyways...firing on all cylinders!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235352 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
That is correct Bryan, the JRUNscripts virtual directory should be pointing there, presuming u only have the one instance of jrun. As it is a virtual directory it has to point at a folder, it cannot point at a file. In fact I don't even know how you could point the vdir at D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. Russ The point is is was pointing to the CFMX 6.1 install and NOT the CFMX 7.01 install ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! That is correct Bryan, the JRUNscripts virtual directory should be pointing there, presuming u only have the one instance of jrun. As it is a virtual directory it has to point at a folder, it cannot point at a file. In fact I don't even know how you could point the vdir at D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. Russ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2006 17:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! Within IIS, the JRunScripts is pointing to D:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1, but Jrun filter in ISAPI filters is pointing to D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. I guess the connecters don't solve the above eh ;-) Anyways...firing on all cylinders!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Bryan, Have them download and install a trial version of SeeFusion: http://www.seefusion.com/ (It'll run for the first 2 hours of the server's uptime and then stop reporting stats until you buy a license. This will be more than enough time to try to troubleshoot.) Start monitoring the Completed Tasks and look for differences between the First Byte and Total Time. The First Byte column tells you how long it took to server the very first byte to the client. Provided you're not using CFFLUSH to push content to the user, this will essentially tell you how long CF took to process the page. The Total Time gives you the total time of the request--including the time it took to push the request to the client. Think of this as the Last Byte. You can then take the difference between the Total Time and the First Byte to figure out if you've got latency issues. From what you're saying, it looks almost like your bandwidth is getting throttled. Check to make sure IIS is throttling the bandwidth. -Dan -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF 7 upgrade BAD! Hey All, This is just s quick note to look for some possibilities... A client upgraded 2 production servers over the weekend. I was using the servers just after the upgrade and all was well. Yesterday they started running REALLY slow (pages that would pop almost instantly now take upwards of a minute to render!!! A few things to note: 1) Debugigng I turned on debugging and found a page processed in 16 mstook about a minute to display. I take this to mean that CF is processing as it should, but perhaps the hand off to IIS is slow? or a network issue? 2) Rebooting No noticeable change in speed 3) Applying the latest 7.0.1 updater to all servers No noticeable change in speed 4) Removing and restoring connections to iis as per this link: http://groups.google.ca/group/macromedia.coldfusion.server_administration/b rowse_thread/thread/13e7a37d41fa148d/50329c2390ab0ffc%2350329c2390ab0ffc?sa =Xoi=groupsrstart=0num=3 No noticeable change in speed 5) Tried running app through localhost and it did run fastso my bet is it's NOT the server at all, but the network/firewall/ISP etc So I'm just kicking off my own research, but any ideas welcome FYI Windows 2K PIII 1.2 GHz 1 GB RAM TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235356 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Ah :-) -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2006 17:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! That is correct Bryan, the JRUNscripts virtual directory should be pointing there, presuming u only have the one instance of jrun. As it is a virtual directory it has to point at a folder, it cannot point at a file. In fact I don't even know how you could point the vdir at D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. Russ The point is is was pointing to the CFMX 6.1 install and NOT the CFMX 7.01 install ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:32 AM Subject: RE: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! That is correct Bryan, the JRUNscripts virtual directory should be pointing there, presuming u only have the one instance of jrun. As it is a virtual directory it has to point at a folder, it cannot point at a file. In fact I don't even know how you could point the vdir at D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. Russ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 March 2006 17:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: SOLVED: Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! Within IIS, the JRunScripts is pointing to D:\CFusionMX7\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1, but Jrun filter in ISAPI filters is pointing to D:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll. I guess the connecters don't solve the above eh ;-) Anyways...firing on all cylinders!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235358 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Bryan -- We have been experiencing the same issues with CF 7. We had one machine 6 and one 7 on windows 2000, we moved to all CF 7 on windows 2003 2gigs ram, dual xeons and experienced a major slow down. We ran seefusion and noticed first time to byte of many files to be very high. Upwards of 200+ seconds in some cases. The queries would run in ms put pages would hang up waiting. We added a third box and it didn't help too much. We messed with sim. Connections, higher and lower and didn't seem to matter. Things are improving, we have redone queries and done some other things code wise but we still see these sticks every day. The big thing is well it worked before why doesn't it work now. We had out managed hosting check everything, lost packets, you name it network wise and nothing is wrong. Something is different for sure. What I don't know. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD! ahhh...gothca now justinthanks Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235401 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CF 7 upgrade BAD!
Did you try the fix I posted...very simple to resolve? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:235402 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
