RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Looks like jsut a bundling to me. John McKown, Owner Delaware.Net, Inc. 30 Old Rudnick Lane, Suite 200 Dover, DE 19901 phone: 302-736-5515 toll free: 888-432-7965 fax: 302-736-5945 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 1812513 -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Hey Macromedia... I know someone is out there listening... Most CF developers like Studio. Most like it a lot. VERY BAD MOVE. Talk about giving it to CF developers where it hurts. -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
It doesn't sound like they're merging them into one product, more like they're selling them in a package, sort of like they sell Fireworks, Flash, and Dreamweaver (I think those are the three) in a package. Evan > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
NNOOO Terry Bader IT/Web Specialist Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer EDO Corp - Combat Systems (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work [EMAIL PROTECTED] (757)581-5981 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 5202487 aim: lv2bounce http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/ > tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list. > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > No where in that article does it say that it is one product. They are just packaged together in one box. Regards Stephen ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
** Macromedia Representative ** Are you sure they are joining? My impression was that the article was recommending both products? Remember that you can get integration with them to make things kinda seamless. I didn't read the article as stating they were becoming one product... but I could be mistaken. === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN : 3679482 "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
> Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/ > tools.cfm According to this, they're simply going to sell the separate Studio and Ultradev products as a bundle. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
A product package, not a product merger. -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Stanford wrote: > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Is this a new product? Or CF studio and MM UltraDev in the same retail box? Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Nathan Stanford wrote: > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Its quite obviously a PR piece about the integration between the two products. In fact it says > using the seamless integration between ColdFusion 4.5 UltraDev 4 Studio Not sure how you think this is some sort of announcement of a merging of the two products. -- Remember, what we do here might seem like criminal fraud but its not. Its marketing! Scott Adams email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.pixelgeek.com/ ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Nathan, >From the sounds of it, its going to be a bundle package with ultradev4. Right now in the two UltraDev4 packages you get Homesite, with this it sounds like you will be getting CF Studio. Not too shabby if they go for the discounting like they've done with the UD4 and Fireworks Studio package. regards, larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 201 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 x253 fax: (703) 393-2659 http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- Nathan Stanford wrote: > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Perhaps a Macromedia representative could elaborate on this... Will our Subscriptions to CFStudio 4.5 be honored for the ColdFusion 4.5 UltraDev 4 Studio product? Or is it only valid for an upgrade to the as yet undisclosed CF5.0 Studio? The website was unclear and there was no mention of what subscription holders would be getting. Jeff Garza Web Developer/Webmaster Spectrum Astro, Inc. 480.892.8200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spectrumastro.com -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! Read This: http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I hope you are right that is not the impression I got from reading the release! (hoping I am wrong) btc -Original Message- From: Evan Lavidor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! It doesn't sound like they're merging them into one product, more like they're selling them in a package, sort of like they sell Fireworks, Flash, and Dreamweaver (I think those are the three) in a package. Evan > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Don't panic, guys. Macromedia has a long history of offering 'Studio' packages of their software: Buy Dreamweaver & Fireworks together and get $99 off. Stuff like that. Now that doesn't mean they're not thinking about rolling the two together in the future, but in this case they're just talking about bundling. -- Owen Athens County Library Services http://www.athenscounty.lib.oh.us - Original Message - From: "Costas Piliotis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:22 PM Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > Hey Macromedia... > > I know someone is out there listening... > > Most CF developers like Studio. Most like it a lot. > > VERY BAD MOVE. Talk about giving it to CF developers where it hurts. > > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
My my, how quick we are to assume They are just saying how they offer both those products. Cold Fusion Studio is not going away in the near future. Ultra Dev and CF Studio are two products different in many respects. We as developers need to continue to express our wishes as far as these products go and let Macromedia know what we want. Cold Fusion Studio and Ultra Dev will remain two separate products for now. (the word from Macromedia). >>> Terry Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/03/01 14:03 PM >>> NNOOO Terry Bader IT/Web Specialist Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer EDO Corp - Combat Systems (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work [EMAIL PROTECTED] (757)581-5981 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 5202487 aim: lv2bounce http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/ > tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
My opinion is, the uprising worked for the Hosting Edition elimination (maybe...), but now everyone wants to re-design the logo and tell Macromedia how to package the products. How about we have a thorough inspection of the restrooms at the corporate headquarters; they might not have the right ceiling tile, or maybe they have those faucets that shut off if you don't keep your hands under them long enough... OR... *gasp* maybe the urinals don't have the right brand of deodorizers in them! > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:34 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list. > > > > > Read This: > > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > > > No where in that article does it say that it is one product. > > They are just packaged together in one box. > > Regards > > Stephen > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
:thinksaboutit: Aren't Ultra Dev and Homesite integrated together somehow? Homesite being so close to CF Studio, I imagine this is the same thing. At 06:34 PM 05/03/2001 +0100, you wrote: >I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list. > > > > > Read This: > > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > > >No where in that article does it say that it is one product. > >They are just packaged together in one box. > >Regards > >Stephen > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I don't think they are talking about merging the two products as onethey are just talking about using them together side-by-side. Re-read that page one more time. It took me a couple just to be sure, and besides, I already have the UltraDev they are talking about. The product has a lot of tools built into it to make developing with ColdFusion easier for beginners, etc. Don't Panic!! No more panicking!! Cheers, Erika -- Original Message -- From: Costas Piliotis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:22:17 -0700 >Hey Macromedia... > >I know someone is out there listening... > >Most CF developers like Studio. Most like it a lot. > >VERY BAD MOVE. Talk about giving it to CF developers where it hurts. > >-Original Message- >From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > >Read This: >http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > >Nathan Stanford >Senior Programmer/Analyst >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I hope this means that either they are just bundled (agreed that the language is a little unclear about this). But if they are actually merging, will we still be able to just purchase CF Studio if that is all we want? I've used Ultradev and frankly have no use for it. Derek - Original Message - From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list. > > > > > Read This: > > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > > > No where in that article does it say that it is one product. > > They are just packaged together in one box. > > Regards > > Stephen > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I'm almost certain that they're just bundling right now, not actually combining the products. It's a little funny that they'll sell them in the same box, because UD often rewrites CF code on complex pages unpredictably. Regards, Marc Garrett - Original Message - From: "Nathan Stanford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Why must we keep getting bad news from MM??? Rich -Original Message- From: Terry Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! NNOOO Terry Bader IT/Web Specialist Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer EDO Corp - Combat Systems (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work [EMAIL PROTECTED] (757)581-5981 - Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 5202487 aim: lv2bounce http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/ > tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Exactly. For details, check out the tools section of the ColdFusion Server 5 release FAQ available at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899. Jeff Whatcott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens To: CF-Talk Sent: 5/3/01 2:48 PM Subject: Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! A product package, not a product merger. -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Stanford wrote: > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
This is a bundle, not a merge. It's also a great value. For details, check out the tools section of the ColdFusion Server 5 release FAQ available at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899. Jeff Whatcott Director, ColdFusion Product Marketing / Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Billy Cravens To: CF-Talk Sent: 5/3/01 2:48 PM Subject: Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! A product package, not a product merger. -- Billy Cravens HR Web Development, Sabre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Stanford wrote: > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Interestingly, I can give a definitive answer on the subject... Adam Berrey, Macromedia VP of Application Server Business (ex-Allaire, and apparently Allaire employee #10 in 1996) has been visiting Australia this week and I took the opportunity to discuss with him a number of issues relating to the future of CF and Spectra (which I can discuss offline if anyone's interested). One announcement he did make was that very soon, UltraDev and CF Studio would be packaged in the one box (NOT the one app) and sold as a bundle at around the price of UD alone (kind of like the UD/Fireworks bundle). This announcement would appear to refer to just such a bundling. The products would remain available standalone for those not interested in the bundle. Adam was VERY vehement about the fact that Macromedia UNDERSTANDS THE SEPARATION between designer (not me, nor most of us on the list I imagine) and coder (me, and you) and would continue to allow that separation to exist, even if UD and Studio eventually became the one product - which has not yet been decided. Rest easy. As for my $0.02, I use UD4 several times a week for layout work, as it quite happily sucks up my CF code and doesn't break it. It's a great tool. That said, Studio remains my tool of choice for cutting CF code. Steve Collins ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Yes it is only a bundling of CF Studio and Ultradev together.But unless we all speak up loud, this will be the trend .. Macromedia's view of the world is the Dreamweaver/Ultradev vision. Where is you want to do what the evangelist does in the demos, you're in clover. But since in 30 years in IT I've never once had to produce what they do in the demos I'm not overly impressed by the demos in the launch. I find myself sitting there watching the evangelist guy zipping round the software saying how easy it is to do this or that, thinking, "yes . but since he's picked the examples to suit himself, what *ISN'T* he showing us?" Anyway, unless we have some input to Macromedia, we'll end up with a Studio that looks like Ultradev. And I"ve never been able to make that work satisfactorily for CF coding - only for making html pages. Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia On Thu, 3 May 2001, Raymond Camden wrote: > ** Macromedia Representative ** > Are you sure they are joining? My impression was that the article was > recommending both products? Remember that you can get integration with them > to make things kinda seamless. I didn't read the article as stating they > were becoming one product... but I could be mistaken. > > === > Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia > > Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ UIN : 3679482 > > "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > > > > > Read This: > > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > > > Nathan Stanford > > Senior Programmer/Analyst > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I think we should check out their cafeteria too. Cos if they have awful pineapple donuts there I want to try to stop that too. Good post Andrew! CHeers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks. Windsor, NSW, Australia On Thu, 3 May 2001, Andrew Tyrone wrote: > My opinion is, the uprising worked for the Hosting Edition elimination (maybe...), >but now everyone wants to re-design the logo and tell Macromedia how to package the >products. How about we have a thorough inspection of the restrooms at the corporate >headquarters; they might not have the right ceiling tile, or maybe they have those >faucets that shut off if you don't keep your hands under them long enough... OR... >*gasp* maybe the urinals don't have the right brand of deodorizers in them! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:34 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > > > I'll say what I just said on the UK CFUG dev/chat list. > > > > > > > > Read This: > > > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > > > > > > No where in that article does it say that it is one product. > > > > They are just packaged together in one box. > > > > Regards > > > > Stephen > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Hi- That's right, both ColdFusion Studio and UltraDev continue to be available as separate products. If you like, you can buy them together in a studio bundle at a lower price. There's a FAQ that Jeff Whatcott put together at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899#2201 thanks Kevin At 2:37 PM -0700 5/3/01, Erika Walker wrote: >I don't think they are talking about merging the two products as >onethey are just talking about using them together side-by-side. > >Re-read that page one more time. It took me a couple just to be >sure, and besides, I already have the UltraDev they are talking >about. The product has a lot of tools built into it to make >developing with ColdFusion easier for beginners, etc. > >Don't Panic!! No more panicking!! > >Cheers, >Erika > >-- Original Message -- >From: Costas Piliotis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:22:17 -0700 > >>Hey Macromedia... >> >>I know someone is out there listening... >> >>Most CF developers like Studio. Most like it a lot. >> >>VERY BAD MOVE. Talk about giving it to CF developers where it hurts. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29 AM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! >> >> >> >>Read This: >>http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm >> >>Nathan Stanford >>Senior Programmer/Analyst >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
You would prefer that only "good" news comes out? The best way to avoid getting bad news about anything is not to look, sit in the closet with your hands over your ears and your eyes tightly shut. For most things what's "bad news" for someone is "Good news" for someone else. For myself, I'd rather know what's going on good or bad. Cheers, Mike Kear AFP Webworks Windsor, NSW, Australia On Thu, 3 May 2001, ibtoad wrote: > Why must we keep getting bad news from MM??? > > Rich > > -Original Message- > From: Terry Bader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:32 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > NNOOO > > > Terry Bader > IT/Web Specialist > Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer > EDO Corp - Combat Systems > (757) 424-1004 ext 361 - Work > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > (757)581-5981 - Mobile > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > icq: 5202487 aim: lv2bounce > http://www.cs.odu.edu/~bader > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > > > > > Read This: > > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/ > > tools.cfm > > > > Nathan Stanford > > Senior Programmer/Analyst > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Lower than AUD$2,000.00? I'd buy that for a dollar! -Original Message- From: Kevin Lynch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 15:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! Hi- That's right, both ColdFusion Studio and UltraDev continue to be available as separate products. If you like, you can buy them together in a studio bundle at a lower price. There's a FAQ that Jeff Whatcott put together at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899#2201 thanks Kevin At 2:37 PM -0700 5/3/01, Erika Walker wrote: >I don't think they are talking about merging the two products as >onethey are just talking about using them together side-by-side. > >Re-read that page one more time. It took me a couple just to be >sure, and besides, I already have the UltraDev they are talking >about. The product has a lot of tools built into it to make >developing with ColdFusion easier for beginners, etc. > >Don't Panic!! No more panicking!! > >Cheers, >Erika > >-- Original Message -- >From: Costas Piliotis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 10:22:17 -0700 > >>Hey Macromedia... >> >>I know someone is out there listening... >> >>Most CF developers like Studio. Most like it a lot. >> >>VERY BAD MOVE. Talk about giving it to CF developers where it hurts. >> >>-Original Message- >>From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 8:29 AM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! >> >> >> >>Read This: >>http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm >> >>Nathan Stanford >>Senior Programmer/Analyst >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Kevin Lynch wrote: > That's right, both ColdFusion Studio and UltraDev continue to be > available as separate products. If you like, you can buy them > together in a studio bundle at a lower price. Any chance we can get a long term commitment from Macromedia to ensure that Studio stays a separate and distinct product and doesn't get merged in UD/DW? -- Any fool can tell the truth, but it requires a man of some sense to know how to lie well. Samuel Butler email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.pixelgeek.com/ ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Merging ? Nah. The're selling them together, and setting studio up as the default external editor in UltraDev. Like I already have :-) ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I hope that is correct and my reason for worry is no more. I also know that MM reads this list and wanted them to know how important it is to us as developers. Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Collins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:05 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > Interestingly, I can give a definitive answer on the subject... > > Adam Berrey, Macromedia VP of Application Server Business (ex-Allaire, and > apparently Allaire employee #10 in 1996) has been visiting Australia this > week and I took the opportunity to discuss with him a number of issues > relating to the future of CF and Spectra (which I can discuss offline if > anyone's interested). > > One announcement he did make was that very soon, UltraDev and CF Studio > would be packaged in the one box (NOT the one app) and sold as a bundle at > around the price of UD alone (kind of like the UD/Fireworks bundle). This > announcement would appear to refer to just such a bundling. The products > would remain available standalone for those not interested in the bundle. > Adam was VERY vehement about the fact that Macromedia UNDERSTANDS THE > SEPARATION between designer (not me, nor most of us on the list I imagine) > and coder (me, and you) and would continue to allow that separation to > exist, even if UD and Studio eventually became the one product - which has > not yet been decided. > > Rest easy. > > As for my $0.02, I use UD4 several times a week for layout work, as it > quite > happily sucks up my CF code and doesn't break it. It's a great tool. > That > said, Studio remains my tool of choice for cutting CF code. > > Steve Collins > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
At 9:15 PM 5/3/1, Michael Kear wrote: > Anyway, unless we have some input to Macromedia, we'll end up > with a Studio that looks like Ultradev. As noted previously, this is understood, but if you'd still like to drive it home, then [EMAIL PROTECTED] would directly reach the in-boxes of the integration team, thanks. (There are also product-specific addresses too, but this top-level address reaches general execs as well.) For the thread itself, yup, it's a bundle... if you see a way that the web page is unclear then a note to the product wishlist would route it directly, thanks. (btw, we don't have a cafeteria, although the lavatories *do* have adequate head height ;-) jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a Wizzy wig. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! I hope that is correct and my reason for worry is no more. I also know that MM reads this list and wanted them to know how important it is to us as developers. Nathan Stanford Senior Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Collins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:05 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > Interestingly, I can give a definitive answer on the subject... > > Adam Berrey, Macromedia VP of Application Server Business (ex-Allaire, and > apparently Allaire employee #10 in 1996) has been visiting Australia this > week and I took the opportunity to discuss with him a number of issues > relating to the future of CF and Spectra (which I can discuss offline if > anyone's interested). > > One announcement he did make was that very soon, UltraDev and CF Studio > would be packaged in the one box (NOT the one app) and sold as a bundle at > around the price of UD alone (kind of like the UD/Fireworks bundle). This > announcement would appear to refer to just such a bundling. The products > would remain available standalone for those not interested in the bundle. > Adam was VERY vehement about the fact that Macromedia UNDERSTANDS THE > SEPARATION between designer (not me, nor most of us on the list I imagine) > and coder (me, and you) and would continue to allow that separation to > exist, even if UD and Studio eventually became the one product - which has > not yet been decided. > > Rest easy. > > As for my $0.02, I use UD4 several times a week for layout work, as it > quite > happily sucks up my CF code and doesn't break it. It's a great tool. > That > said, Studio remains my tool of choice for cutting CF code. > > Steve Collins > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD WYSIWYG editor - how can you beat that combination. Make it seemless to switch back and forth! I never could get Studios design mode to work right - just replace it with UD! Al At 03:02 PM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading >this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode >exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a >Wizzy wig. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
ABSOLUTELY jd > From: "Al Musella, DPM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:48:53 -0400 > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD > WYSIWYG editor - how can you beat that combination. Make it seemless to > switch back and forth! I never could get Studios design mode to work right > - just replace it with UD! > Al > > > > At 03:02 PM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >> Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading >> this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode >> exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a >> Wizzy wig. > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging
Set Studio as your external code editor and press ctrl-e jon - Original Message - From: "Jon Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:56 PM Subject: Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > ABSOLUTELY > jd > > > From: "Al Musella, DPM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:48:53 -0400 > > To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > > > I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD > > WYSIWYG editor - how can you beat that combination. Make it seemless to > > switch back and forth! I never could get Studios design mode to work right > > - just replace it with UD! > > Al > > > > > > > > At 03:02 PM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > >> Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading > >> this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode > >> exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a > >> Wizzy wig. > > > > > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
Yeah but even now UD just show little yellow bolts of lightning for ColdFusion code. -Original Message- From: Al Musella, DPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 6 May 2001 08:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD WYSIWYG editor - how can you beat that combination. Make it seemless to switch back and forth! I never could get Studios design mode to work right - just replace it with UD! Al At 03:02 PM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading >this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode >exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a >Wizzy wig. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
UD is still harsh on your code (yese even with code rewriting off) it still dupicates code sometimes when you copy and paste, and its a bitch getting my web guys to be careful and not screw up the code, its the best i've seen at reading CF code but its still has a little more to go but CF studio is defiantly what i use more with maybe integrating the design tap to OPEN UD, i use Studio more then UD so i would like to see that =) Bill Wheatley Director of Development Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer AEPS INC Allaire ColdFusion Consulting Partner www.aeps.com www.aeps2000.com 954-472-6684 X303 ICQ: 417645 - Original Message - From: "Al Musella, DPM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > I would love to see them combined. Add studio's code editor to the UD > WYSIWYG editor - how can you beat that combination. Make it seemless to > switch back and forth! I never could get Studios design mode to work right > - just replace it with UD! > Al > > > > At 03:02 PM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > >Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading > >this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode > >exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a > >Wizzy wig. > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging!
I have to agree with this, although MM has a pretty good text/WYSIWYG toggle in Ultradev... One thing is for certain. The "Design" mode in Homesite/ColdFusion Studio needs some work. Maybe if that's where some of that really cool MM technology could be worked in. As far as the edit mode goes in Studio, I say "good editor... STAY!" :) That's where I do all my work. I can't quite figure out how to write really sophisticated CF code in a WYSIWYG (or why I would want to ;) . Eric Carlisle CF Geek At 03:02 PM 5/5/01 -0700, you wrote: >Have to drop my viewpoint in on this as well just in Case MM is reading >this. I have both UD and Studio available to me and I use Studio Edit Mode >exclusively. So PLEASE PLEASE don't screw up Studio by trying to make it a >Wizzy wig. > >Thanks. > >-Original Message- >From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:35 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > >I hope that is correct and my reason for worry is no more. I also know that >MM reads this list and wanted them to know how important it is to us as >developers. > > >Nathan Stanford >Senior Programmer/Analyst >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Collins [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:05 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Interestingly, I can give a definitive answer on the subject... > > > > Adam Berrey, Macromedia VP of Application Server Business (ex-Allaire, and > > apparently Allaire employee #10 in 1996) has been visiting Australia this > > week and I took the opportunity to discuss with him a number of issues > > relating to the future of CF and Spectra (which I can discuss offline if > > anyone's interested). > > > > One announcement he did make was that very soon, UltraDev and CF Studio > > would be packaged in the one box (NOT the one app) and sold as a bundle at > > around the price of UD alone (kind of like the UD/Fireworks bundle). This > > announcement would appear to refer to just such a bundling. The products > > would remain available standalone for those not interested in the bundle. > > Adam was VERY vehement about the fact that Macromedia UNDERSTANDS THE > > SEPARATION between designer (not me, nor most of us on the list I imagine) > > and coder (me, and you) and would continue to allow that separation to > > exist, even if UD and Studio eventually became the one product - which has > > not yet been decided. > > > > Rest easy. > > > > As for my $0.02, I use UD4 several times a week for layout work, as it > > quite > > happily sucks up my CF code and doesn't break it. It's a great tool. > > That > > said, Studio remains my tool of choice for cutting CF code. > > > > Steve Collins > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! [NOT QUITE]
No need to worry. Check out the tools section of the ColdFusion Server 5 release FAQ available at: http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=20899. Jeff Whatcott [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! ** Macromedia Representative ** Are you sure they are joining? My impression was that the article was recommending both products? Remember that you can get integration with them to make things kinda seamless. I didn't read the article as stating they were becoming one product... but I could be mistaken. === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ UIN : 3679482 "My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda > -Original Message- > From: Nathan Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CF Studio and UltraDev Merging! > > > > Read This: > http://www.allaire.com/products/ColdFusion/productinformation/tools.cfm > > Nathan Stanford > Senior Programmer/Analyst > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
