Re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Claude Schneegans]

I'm just fine tuning a newsletter system.
Does anyone know issues when running CF5?

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Re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Matt Robertson]

On 9/12/05, Charles Polisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> There's a tutorial on throttling the e-mail loop
> at http://tutorial256.easycfm.com/
> 
> 
That was basically the first generation of the trickler code. I revised it 
to provide failover recovery and posted it along with the original here:

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMail_2004.cfm

There's no way CF 6.1 is going to fail like its being described on its own. 
It has to be having some outside help. Bad queries, bad mail server, bad 
data going in... I've got a version of the trickler that uses try/catch and 
logs all errors in the mail run to a db, and then sends a failure email to 
the admin. It should be able to recover from input failures just fine.

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Re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Will Tomlinson]

I've been using Matt's mail trickler. Works like a champ.

http://mysecretbase.com/Slowing_Down_CFMAIL.cfm

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Re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Charles Polisher]

On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 09:17:25PM -0400, Brian Polackoff wrote:
> Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a slew
> of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a single
> address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to every address
> at once.  Usually CF errors.
> 
> Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade just
> yet.
> 
> Thanks in advace,
> Brian Polackoff

There's a tutorial on throttling the e-mail loop
at http://tutorial256.easycfm.com/

Best regards,
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Re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Adrocknaphobia]

No way. One of my apps sends 6k at a time without problem. Try
pointing CF to a non-existent mail server for testing. Wrap cftry
around the cfmail tag and take a look at the exact query vars when the
error is throw. (By pointing to a non-existent server the emails will
get put into the undeliverable folder)

Turn on debugging and make sure you are showing robust exeption info.

-Adam

On 9/12/05, Brian Polackoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have verified all records in the database have a valid email in the db.  I
> believe the problem is stemming from the single thread 6.1 uses to send mail
> where as cf 7 cfmail is a multi-threaded process.
> 
> The cftry will not work also because I have found the following:
> 
>Using a recordset of 600.
>cfmail will work for an undetermined amount of records but once
> it  fails it does, not an cannot, recover in that tag sequence.  For
> instance if it fails on record 300 the last 300 records will not be
> sent.  But once the tag finishes failing, if you run it again the mail  will
> be sent.  I have tried to reverse the records and have gotten the   same
> result.  I believe the records are independent of the problem   besides the
> sheer amount of them.
> 
> Thanks.
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:49 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)
> 
> Just put a cftry tag around your cfmail.
> 
> You must have an empty "TO" field in the db or something.
> 
> Allan
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 September 2005 16:45
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)
> 
> 
> Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:
> 
> CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
> general cf was looking at the following code...
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)
> 
> What error do you get? How many are you sending?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)
> 
> Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
> slew of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a
> single address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to
> every address at once.  Usually CF errors.
> 
> Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
> just yet.
> 
> Thanks in advace,
> Brian Polackoff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Kevin Aebig]

We had issues with sending personalized, generated emails out, so instead of
sending them all out with a scheduled task, we send out a limited amount
every 10 minutes until we get them all done... 

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2005 10:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Unique to each person no bcc'ing...

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Are the emails unique or are you bcc'ing it to the recipients?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:

CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
general cf was looking at the following code...

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew
of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a single
address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to every
address
at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just
yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff












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Re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Bryan Stevenson]

just a thoughtbut if you know the data is there...perhaps there is a 
problem with your query (ie some rows are missing adresses for some 
reason)??

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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Brian Polackoff]

Unique to each person no bcc'ing...

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 12:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Are the emails unique or are you bcc'ing it to the recipients?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:

CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
general cf was looking at the following code...

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew
of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a single
address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to every
address
at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just
yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff










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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Kevin Aebig]

Are the emails unique or are you bcc'ing it to the recipients?

Kevin

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: September 12, 2005 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:

CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
general cf was looking at the following code...

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew
of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a single
address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to every
address
at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just
yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff








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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Brian Polackoff]

I have verified all records in the database have a valid email in the db.  I
believe the problem is stemming from the single thread 6.1 uses to send mail
where as cf 7 cfmail is a multi-threaded process.

The cftry will not work also because I have found the following:

Using a recordset of 600.  
cfmail will work for an undetermined amount of records but once
it  fails it does, not an cannot, recover in that tag sequence.  For
instance if it fails on record 300 the last 300 records will not be
sent.  But once the tag finishes failing, if you run it again the mail  will
be sent.  I have tried to reverse the records and have gotten the   same
result.  I believe the records are independent of the problem   besides the
sheer amount of them.

Thanks.
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 10:49 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Just put a cftry tag around your cfmail.

You must have an empty "TO" field in the db or something.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 September 2005 16:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)


Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:

CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
general cf was looking at the following code...

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a
single address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to
every address at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff










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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Allan Cliff]

Just put a cftry tag around your cfmail.

You must have an empty "TO" field in the db or something.

Allan

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 September 2005 16:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)


Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:

CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
general cf was looking at the following code...

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a
single address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to
every address at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff








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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Brian Polackoff]

Sending about 600 mails at a time, the error ranges from:

CFMail requires a To: attribute when I have tested it is there to the
general cf was looking at the following code...

Thanks,
Brian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew
of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a single
address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to every
address
at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just
yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff






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re: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[dave]

i just make a page and call it manually or as a scheduled task and have it run 
a query on the emails and limit the output to 25 emails, after each is sent it 
marks it as sent in db so when its doing the db query it searched by ones that 
arent marked as sent. Then have the page refresh every 20 seconds which sends 
another small batch.
 not to elegant but it works :)

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"Some people just don't appreciate how difficult it is to dispense wisdom and 
abuse at the same time." 


From: Brian Polackoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:18 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam) 

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a slew
of emails at a time. I have tried looping through, sending to a single
address at a time. I have also tried sending the message to every address
at once. Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade just
yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff



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RE: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

[Matthew Walker]

What error do you get? How many are you sending?

-Original Message-
From: Brian Polackoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2005 1:30 p.m.
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Errors when mass mailing (not spam)

Does anyone know on a cfmx 6.1 box how to send using the CFMAIL tag a
slew
of emails at a time.  I have tried looping through, sending to a single
address at a time.  I have also tried sending the message to every
address
at once.  Usually CF errors.

Any ideas, I know this issue was resolved with cf 7 but can't upgrade
just
yet.

Thanks in advace,
Brian Polackoff




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