RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Everland
You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the username
and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
Not a Gateway.

In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
if so how do you fix it?


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL



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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the username
and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
Not a Gateway.

In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
if so how do you fix it?


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL




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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Robert Everland
Not if they are all on one box. I just set one ip address per box. The only
other option is to install MS smtp and use that to send email. 

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com 

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the username
and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
Not a Gateway.

In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
if so how do you fix it?


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL





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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
I will look into it. I thought that I heard somewhere where there was a way
to provide the user/pass in the header of the mail but I can't remember
where I heard it and how to do it.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


Not if they are all on one box. I just set one ip address per box. The only
other option is to install MS smtp and use that to send email.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

Robert Everland III
Web Developer Extraordinaire
Dixon Ticonderoga Company
http://www.dixonusa.com

-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the username
and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
Not a Gateway.

In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
if so how do you fix it?


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL






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Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Matt Robertson
No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com

- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
 the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
 cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

 Robert Everland III
 Web Developer Extraordinaire
 Dixon Ticonderoga Company
 http://www.dixonusa.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
 doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
username
 and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
 Not a Gateway.

 In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
 if so how do you fix it?

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 



 
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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes and
tried to send some mail, got the same error.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com

- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
 the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
 cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

 Robert Everland III
 Web Developer Extraordinaire
 Dixon Ticonderoga Company
 http://www.dixonusa.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
 doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
username
 and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
 Not a Gateway.

 In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
 if so how do you fix it?

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 





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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Ok, guys. I was wrong, it did work, my server guy did not save the changes
to the settings in Imail when he added the IP addresses.

Thanks for your help.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes and
tried to send some mail, got the same error.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.

--Matt Robertson--
MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com

- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
 the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
 cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.

 Robert Everland III
 Web Developer Extraordinaire
 Dixon Ticonderoga Company
 http://www.dixonusa.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


 We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
 doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
username
 and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
 Not a Gateway.

 In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
 if so how do you fix it?

 
 Bryan F. Hogan
 Director of Internet Development
 Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
 Digital Bay Media, Inc.
 1-877-72DIGITAL
 






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Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread samcfug
This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS in order to pass
the username and password with your CFMAIL operation.  Allowing relaying by IP
number is a very insecure way to handle this as it will open the door to
spamming by spoofing the IP.
SMTP AUTH is a good barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


| I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes and
| tried to send some mail, got the same error.
|
| 
| Bryan F. Hogan
| Director of Internet Development
| Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| 1-877-72DIGITAL
| 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
| No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
| dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
|
| --Matt Robertson--
| MSB Designs, Inc.
| http://mysecretbase.com
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
|  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
|  the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
|  cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.
| 
|  Robert Everland III
|  Web Developer Extraordinaire
|  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
|  http://www.dixonusa.com
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
|  doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
| username
|  and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
|  Not a Gateway.
| 
|  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
|  if so how do you fix it?
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
| 
| 
| 
|
| 
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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Ok, do you know of a place I can find out what is passed through within the
header?


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS in order to
pass
the username and password with your CFMAIL operation.  Allowing relaying by
IP
number is a very insecure way to handle this as it will open the door to
spamming by spoofing the IP.
SMTP AUTH is a good barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


| I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes
and
| tried to send some mail, got the same error.
|
| 
| Bryan F. Hogan
| Director of Internet Development
| Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| 1-877-72DIGITAL
| 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
| No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
| dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
|
| --Matt Robertson--
| MSB Designs, Inc.
| http://mysecretbase.com
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
|  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to
set
|  the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be
very
|  cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for
me.
| 
|  Robert Everland III
|  Web Developer Extraordinaire
|  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
|  http://www.dixonusa.com
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
|  doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
| username
|  and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local
Host -
|  Not a Gateway.
| 
|  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem
and
|  if so how do you fix it?
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
| 
| 
| 
|
|

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Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Matt Robertson
The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up and it caused a slew of 
naysaying.  I don't think we ever got hold of a working code example and - I believe 
it was Jochem who brought them up - a slew of problems apparently exist with using 
this technique.

Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all hear for doing this with CF, 
both here and on the IMail list.  I'd really appreciate a cfmail snippet that handles 
this as described so I can test/evaluate it.

---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600

This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS in order to pass
the username and password with your CFMAIL operation.  Allowing relaying by IP
number is a very insecure way to handle this as it will open the door to
spamming by spoofing the IP.
SMTP AUTH is a good barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


| I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes and
| tried to send some mail, got the same error.
|
| 
| Bryan F. Hogan
| Director of Internet Development
| Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| 1-877-72DIGITAL
| 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
| No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
| dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
|
| --Matt Robertson--
| MSB Designs, Inc.
| http://mysecretbase.com
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
|  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to set
|  the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be very
|  cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for me.
| 
|  Robert Everland III
|  Web Developer Extraordinaire
|  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
|  http://www.dixonusa.com
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
|  doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
| username
|  and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local Host -
|  Not a Gateway.
| 
|  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem and
|  if so how do you fix it?
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
| 
| 
| 
|
| 

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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Failed to send the spooled mail file, C:\CFusion\Mail\spool\7E4.cfmail. SMTP
server replied bogus mail from Moved file to
C:\CFusion\Mail\undelivr\80A.cfmail.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS in order to
pass
the username and password with your CFMAIL operation.  Allowing relaying by
IP
number is a very insecure way to handle this as it will open the door to
spamming by spoofing the IP.
SMTP AUTH is a good barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


| I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes
and
| tried to send some mail, got the same error.
|
| 
| Bryan F. Hogan
| Director of Internet Development
| Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| 1-877-72DIGITAL
| 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
| No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on individual
| dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
|
| --Matt Robertson--
| MSB Designs, Inc.
| http://mysecretbase.com
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
|  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to
set
|  the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be
very
|  cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for
me.
| 
|  Robert Everland III
|  Web Developer Extraordinaire
|  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
|  http://www.dixonusa.com
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
|  doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
| username
|  and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local
Host -
|  Not a Gateway.
| 
|  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem
and
|  if so how do you fix it?
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
| 
| 
| 
|
|

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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Lee Fuller
Simply include our local servers in your Relay for Addresses list.  And it
will stop checking those server IPs.

Have done it many times...



| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:56 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up 
| and it caused a slew of naysaying.  I don't think we ever got 
| hold of a working code example and - I believe it was Jochem 
| who brought them up - a slew of problems apparently exist 
| with using this technique.
| 
| Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all 
| hear for doing this with CF, both here and on the IMail list. 
|  I'd really appreciate a cfmail snippet that handles this as 
| described so I can test/evaluate it.
| 
| ---
|  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| ---
| 
| 
| -- Original Message --
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600
| 
| This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS 
| in order 
| to pass the username and password with your CFMAIL 
| operation.  Allowing 
| relaying by IP number is a very insecure way to handle this 
| as it will 
| open the door to spamming by spoofing the IP. SMTP AUTH is a good 
| barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.
| 
| =
| Douglas White
| group Manager
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.samcfug.org
| =
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| | I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF 
| | boxes and tried to send some mail, got the same error.
| |
| | 
| | Bryan F. Hogan
| | Director of Internet Development
| | Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| | Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| | 1-877-72DIGITAL
| | 
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| |
| |
| | No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on 
| | individual dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
| |
| | --Matt Robertson--
| | MSB Designs, Inc.
| | http://mysecretbase.com
| |
| | - Original Message -
| | From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| | Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| |
| |
| |  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would 
| require me 
| |  to set the ip address of each and every site that I have, that 
| |  would not be very cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass 
| |  option but to much $$$.
| | 
| |  
| |  Bryan F. Hogan
| |  Director of Internet Development
| |  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| |  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| |  1-877-72DIGITAL 
| | 
| |  -Original Message-
| |  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
| |  To: CF-Talk
| |  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| |  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That 
| fixed it 
| |  for me.
| | 
| |  Robert Everland III
| |  Web Developer Extraordinaire
| |  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
| |  http://www.dixonusa.com
| | 
| |  -Original Message-
| |  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
| |  To: CF-Talk
| |  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| |  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow 
| |  relaying. In doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender 
| |  which allows the
| | username
| |  and password attributes, which solves the problem with 
| Not a Local 
| |  Host - Not a Gateway.
| | 
| |  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this 
| |  problem and if so how do you fix it?
| | 
| |  
| |  Bryan F. Hogan
| |  Director of Internet Development
| |  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| |  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| |  1-877-72DIGITAL 
| | 
| | 
| | 
| | 
| |
| | 
| 
| 
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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
Yes, me too.


Bryan F. Hogan
Director of Internet Development
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
Digital Bay Media, Inc.
1-877-72DIGITAL


-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up and it caused a
slew of naysaying.  I don't think we ever got hold of a working code example
and - I believe it was Jochem who brought them up - a slew of problems
apparently exist with using this technique.

Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all hear for doing
this with CF, both here and on the IMail list.  I'd really appreciate a
cfmail snippet that handles this as described so I can test/evaluate it.

---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600

This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS in order to
pass
the username and password with your CFMAIL operation.  Allowing relaying by
IP
number is a very insecure way to handle this as it will open the door to
spamming by spoofing the IP.
SMTP AUTH is a good barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway


| I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF boxes
and
| tried to send some mail, got the same error.
|
| 
| Bryan F. Hogan
| Director of Internet Development
| Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| 1-877-72DIGITAL
| 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
| No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on
individual
| dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
|
| --Matt Robertson--
| MSB Designs, Inc.
| http://mysecretbase.com
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
|
|
|  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would require me to
set
|  the ip address of each and every site that I have, that would not be
very
|  cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass option but to much $$$.
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That fixed it for
me.
| 
|  Robert Everland III
|  Web Developer Extraordinaire
|  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
|  http://www.dixonusa.com
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
|  To: CF-Talk
|  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
|  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow relaying. In
|  doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender which allows the
| username
|  and password attributes, which solves the problem with Not a Local
Host -
|  Not a Gateway.
| 
|  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this problem
and
|  if so how do you fix it?
| 
|  
|  Bryan F. Hogan
|  Director of Internet Development
|  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
|  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
|  1-877-72DIGITAL
|  
| 
| 
| 
| 
|
|


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RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Matt Robertson
Yes, we're already there.  What he's saying is this method is insecure, and there is 
an alternative that works with cf and straight smtp auth (i.e. 'no relay' in imail).

---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:03:20 -0800

Simply include our local servers in your Relay for Addresses list.  And it
will stop checking those server IPs.

Have done it many times...



| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:56 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up 
| and it caused a slew of naysaying.  I don't think we ever got 
| hold of a working code example and - I believe it was Jochem 
| who brought them up - a slew of problems apparently exist 
| with using this technique.
| 
| Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all 
| hear for doing this with CF, both here and on the IMail list. 
|  I'd really appreciate a cfmail snippet that handles this as 
| described so I can test/evaluate it.
| 
| ---
|  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| ---
| 
| 
| -- Original Message --
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600
| 
| This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS 
| in order 
| to pass the username and password with your CFMAIL 
| operation.  Allowing 
| relaying by IP number is a very insecure way to handle this 
| as it will 
| open the door to spamming by spoofing the IP. SMTP AUTH is a good 
| barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.
| 
| =
| Douglas White
| group Manager
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.samcfug.org
| =
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| | I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF 
| | boxes and tried to send some mail, got the same error.
| |
| | 
| | Bryan F. Hogan
| | Director of Internet Development
| | Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| | Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| | 1-877-72DIGITAL
| | 
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| |
| |
| | No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on 
| | individual dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
| |
| | --Matt Robertson--
| | MSB Designs, Inc.
| | http://mysecretbase.com
| |
| | - Original Message -
| | From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| | Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| |
| |
| |  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would 
| require me 
| |  to set the ip address of each and every site that I have, that 
| |  would not be very cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass 
| |  option but to much $$$.
| | 
| |  
| |  Bryan F. Hogan
| |  Director of Internet Development
| |  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| |  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| |  1-877-72DIGITAL 
| | 
| |  -Original Message-
| |  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
| |  To: CF-Talk
| |  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| |  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That 
| fixed it 
| |  for me.
| | 
| |  Robert Everland III
| |  Web Developer Extraordinaire
| |  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
| |  http://www.dixonusa.com
| | 
| |  -Original Message-
| |  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
| |  To: CF-Talk
| |  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| |  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow 
| |  relaying. In doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender 
| |  which allows the
| | username
| |  and password attributes, which solves the problem with 
| Not a Local 
| |  Host - Not a Gateway.
| | 
| |  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this 
| |  problem and if so how do you fix

RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Matt Robertson
Yes, we're already there.  What he's saying is this method is insecure, and there is 
an alternative that works with cf and straight smtp auth (i.e. 'no relay' in imail).

---
 Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
---


-- Original Message --
From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:03:20 -0800

Simply include our local servers in your Relay for Addresses list.  And it
will stop checking those server IPs.

Have done it many times...



| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:56 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up 
| and it caused a slew of naysaying.  I don't think we ever got 
| hold of a working code example and - I believe it was Jochem 
| who brought them up - a slew of problems apparently exist 
| with using this technique.
| 
| Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all 
| hear for doing this with CF, both here and on the IMail list. 
|  I'd really appreciate a cfmail snippet that handles this as 
| described so I can test/evaluate it.
| 
| ---
|  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| ---
| 
| 
| -- Original Message --
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600
| 
| This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS 
| in order 
| to pass the username and password with your CFMAIL 
| operation.  Allowing 
| relaying by IP number is a very insecure way to handle this 
| as it will 
| open the door to spamming by spoofing the IP. SMTP AUTH is a good 
| barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.
| 
| =
| Douglas White
| group Manager
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.samcfug.org
| =
| - Original Message -
| From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| | I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP addresses to my CF 
| | boxes and tried to send some mail, got the same error.
| |
| | 
| | Bryan F. Hogan
| | Director of Internet Development
| | Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| | Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| | 1-877-72DIGITAL
| | 
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| |
| |
| | No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on 
| | individual dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
| |
| | --Matt Robertson--
| | MSB Designs, Inc.
| | http://mysecretbase.com
| |
| | - Original Message -
| | From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| | Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| |
| |
| |  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would 
| require me 
| |  to set the ip address of each and every site that I have, that 
| |  would not be very cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass 
| |  option but to much $$$.
| | 
| |  
| |  Bryan F. Hogan
| |  Director of Internet Development
| |  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| |  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| |  1-877-72DIGITAL 
| | 
| |  -Original Message-
| |  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
| |  To: CF-Talk
| |  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| |  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That 
| fixed it 
| |  for me.
| | 
| |  Robert Everland III
| |  Web Developer Extraordinaire
| |  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
| |  http://www.dixonusa.com
| | 
| |  -Original Message-
| |  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:09 AM
| |  To: CF-Talk
| |  Subject: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| |  We recently changed our imail server settings to not allow 
| |  relaying. In doing so we had to upagrade our Persits.Mailsender 
| |  which allows the
| | username
| |  and password attributes, which solves the problem with 
| Not a Local 
| |  Host - Not a Gateway.
| | 
| |  In CFMail there is no such attribute. Has anyone ever had this 
| |  problem and if so how do you fix

RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway

2003-01-27 Thread Lee Fuller
Oh!  Sorry.. Missed that part.  bowing out gracefully :)



| -Original Message-
| From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
| Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 11:13 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| 
| 
| Yes, we're already there.  What he's saying is this method is 
| insecure, and there is an alternative that works with cf and 
| straight smtp auth (i.e. 'no relay' in imail).
| 
| ---
|  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| ---
| 
| 
| -- Original Message --
| From: Lee Fuller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 11:03:20 -0800
| 
| Simply include our local servers in your Relay for 
| Addresses list.  
| And it will stop checking those server IPs.
| 
| Have done it many times...
| 
| 
| 
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:56 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| | The last time this came up, as I recall, you brought this up
| | and it caused a slew of naysaying.  I don't think we ever got 
| | hold of a working code example and - I believe it was Jochem 
| | who brought them up - a slew of problems apparently exist 
| | with using this technique.
| | 
| | Relay for addresses is the standard recommendation we all
| | hear for doing this with CF, both here and on the IMail list. 
| |  I'd really appreciate a cfmail snippet that handles this as 
| | described so I can test/evaluate it.
| | 
| | ---
| |  Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| |  MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com
| | ---
| | 
| | 
| | -- Original Message --
| | From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:26:31 -0600
| | 
| | This has been discussed many times before - Look to CFPARAMS
| | in order
| | to pass the username and password with your CFMAIL
| | operation.  Allowing
| | relaying by IP number is a very insecure way to handle this
| | as it will
| | open the door to spamming by spoofing the IP. SMTP AUTH is a good
| | barrier to unauthorized use of the mail server.
| | 
| | =
| | Douglas White
| | group Manager
| | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | http://www.samcfug.org =
| | - Original Message -
| | From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:54 AM
| | Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | 
| | 
| | | I just tried this, I set all of the allowed IP 
| addresses to my CF
| | | boxes and tried to send some mail, got the same error.
| | |
| | | 
| | | Bryan F. Hogan
| | | Director of Internet Development
| | | Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| | | Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| | | 1-877-72DIGITAL 
| | |
| | | -Original Message-
| | | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| | | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:35 AM
| | | To: CF-Talk
| | | Subject: Re: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | |
| | |
| | | No, just set the ip of the cf server.  If your sites are all on
| | | individual dedicated boxes, then *thats* a problem.
| | |
| | | --Matt Robertson--
| | | MSB Designs, Inc.
| | | http://mysecretbase.com
| | |
| | | - Original Message -
| | | From: Bryan F. Hogan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | | Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 7:22 AM
| | | Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | |
| | |
| | |  Thanks for the reply, this is not an option. This would
| | require me
| | |  to set the ip address of each and every site that I have, that
| | |  would not be very cool. I know ActivMail has a username, pass 
| | |  option but to much $$$.
| | | 
| | |  
| | |  Bryan F. Hogan
| | |  Director of Internet Development
| | |  Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
| | |  Digital Bay Media, Inc.
| | |  1-877-72DIGITAL 
| | | 
| | |  -Original Message-
| | |  From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
| | |  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:04 AM
| | |  To: CF-Talk
| | |  Subject: RE: CFMail Not Local Host - Not a Gateway
| | | 
| | | 
| | |  You have to also allow a set number of ips through. That
| | fixed it
| | |  for me.
| | | 
| | |  Robert Everland III
| | |  Web Developer Extraordinaire
| | |  Dixon Ticonderoga Company
| | |  http://www.dixonusa.com
| | | 
| | |  -Original Message-
| | |  From: Bryan F. Hogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED