Re: Issue with Session scope
Your session is tied to the application. With a 10 second timeout, you are more than likely seeing the application timeout (which means all the sessions in it are gone too). You can prove this by changing the application name to something like #createUUID()# or #now()# and seeing if that is also changing when you experience your issue. My guess is that every time you see this issue, the application name will have changed. On 3/15/13 12:41 PM, "Bobby" wrote: > >They are different because the sessions aren't persisting. They are being >recreated on each request. > >Whats the session timeout? > >On 3/15/13 11:37 AM, "funand learning" wrote: > >> >>also cfid cftoken are same for me before and after form submission. When >>I >>asked my colleague to test, I see they are different before and after >>form >>submission. I thought this issue happens when we use cflocation, but I am >>not using this tag either >> >>On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, funand learning >>wrote: >> >>> sorry, it is remote_host in my code. I will try to increase application >>> time out and try >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bobby wrote: >>> No doubt. Also, as Roger pointed out. It is not cgi.remotehsot, it is cgi.remote_host. Cgi.remotehost will result in an empty string. On 3/15/13 11:24 AM, "Matt Quackenbush" wrote: > >Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect that >would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never set an >app timeout so short. :-) > >HTH > > >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM, funand learning >wrote: > >> >> I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is the >>piece >> of code >> >> >>> >> applicationtimeout="#createtimespan(0, 0, 0, 10)#" >> sessionmanagement="yes" >> clientmanagement="no"> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby wrote: >> >> > >> > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There >>could >> > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is >>that >> > people forget to enable session management in their application. >> > >> > >> > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" >>wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a >> > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. >>The >> > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session >> > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some >> > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is >>undefined >> in >> > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in >> savetofile.cfm. >> > >Why could this be happening? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355036 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Issue with Session scope
It's most likely - as others point out - a 10 seconds timeout. I'm curious, why would you set it that short? That wouldn't give time to pause and scratch my nose. * sorry, it is remote_host in my code. I will try to increase application time out and try On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bobby wrote: > > > >Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect that > >would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never set an > >app timeout so short. :-) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355035 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
They are different because the sessions aren't persisting. They are being recreated on each request. Whats the session timeout? On 3/15/13 11:37 AM, "funand learning" wrote: > >also cfid cftoken are same for me before and after form submission. When I >asked my colleague to test, I see they are different before and after form >submission. I thought this issue happens when we use cflocation, but I am >not using this tag either > >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, funand learning >wrote: > >> sorry, it is remote_host in my code. I will try to increase application >> time out and try >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bobby wrote: >> >>> >>> No doubt. Also, as Roger pointed out. It is not cgi.remotehsot, it is >>> cgi.remote_host. >>> >>> Cgi.remotehost will result in an empty string. >>> >>> On 3/15/13 11:24 AM, "Matt Quackenbush" wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect >>>that >>> >would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never >>>set an >>> >app timeout so short. :-) >>> > >>> >HTH >>> > >>> > >>> >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM, funand learning >>> >wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >> I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is >>>the >>> >>piece >>> >> of code >>> >> >>> >> >> >> applicationtimeout="#createtimespan(0, 0, 0, 10)#" >>> >> sessionmanagement="yes" >>> >> clientmanagement="no"> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby >>>wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There >>> >>could >>> >> > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, >>>is >>> >>that >>> >> > people forget to enable session management in their application. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" >>> >>wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am >>>setting >>> a >>> >> > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a >>>file. >>> >>The >>> >> > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session >>> >> > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked >>> some >>> >> > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is >>> >>undefined >>> >> in >>> >> > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in >>> >> savetofile.cfm. >>> >> > >Why could this be happening? >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355034 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
also cfid cftoken are same for me before and after form submission. When I asked my colleague to test, I see they are different before and after form submission. I thought this issue happens when we use cflocation, but I am not using this tag either On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, funand learning wrote: > sorry, it is remote_host in my code. I will try to increase application > time out and try > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bobby wrote: > >> >> No doubt. Also, as Roger pointed out. It is not cgi.remotehsot, it is >> cgi.remote_host. >> >> Cgi.remotehost will result in an empty string. >> >> On 3/15/13 11:24 AM, "Matt Quackenbush" wrote: >> >> > >> >Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect that >> >would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never set an >> >app timeout so short. :-) >> > >> >HTH >> > >> > >> >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM, funand learning >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is the >> >>piece >> >> of code >> >> >> >> > >> applicationtimeout="#createtimespan(0, 0, 0, 10)#" >> >> sessionmanagement="yes" >> >> clientmanagement="no"> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There >> >>could >> >> > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is >> >>that >> >> > people forget to enable session management in their application. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" >> >>wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting >> a >> >> > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. >> >>The >> >> > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session >> >> > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked >> some >> >> > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is >> >>undefined >> >> in >> >> > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in >> >> savetofile.cfm. >> >> > >Why could this be happening? >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355033 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
sorry, it is remote_host in my code. I will try to increase application time out and try On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Bobby wrote: > > No doubt. Also, as Roger pointed out. It is not cgi.remotehsot, it is > cgi.remote_host. > > Cgi.remotehost will result in an empty string. > > On 3/15/13 11:24 AM, "Matt Quackenbush" wrote: > > > > >Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect that > >would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never set an > >app timeout so short. :-) > > > >HTH > > > > > >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM, funand learning > >wrote: > > > >> > >> I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is the > >>piece > >> of code > >> > >> >> applicationtimeout="#createtimespan(0, 0, 0, 10)#" > >> sessionmanagement="yes" > >> clientmanagement="no"> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby wrote: > >> > >> > > >> > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There > >>could > >> > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is > >>that > >> > people forget to enable session management in their application. > >> > > >> > > >> > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" > >>wrote: > >> > > >> > > > >> > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a > >> > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. > >>The > >> > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session > >> > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some > >> > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is > >>undefined > >> in > >> > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in > >> savetofile.cfm. > >> > >Why could this be happening? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355032 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
No doubt. Also, as Roger pointed out. It is not cgi.remotehsot, it is cgi.remote_host. Cgi.remotehost will result in an empty string. On 3/15/13 11:24 AM, "Matt Quackenbush" wrote: > >Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect that >would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never set an >app timeout so short. :-) > >HTH > > >On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM, funand learning >wrote: > >> >> I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is the >>piece >> of code >> >> > applicationtimeout="#createtimespan(0, 0, 0, 10)#" >> sessionmanagement="yes" >> clientmanagement="no"> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby wrote: >> >> > >> > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There >>could >> > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is >>that >> > people forget to enable session management in their application. >> > >> > >> > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" >>wrote: >> > >> > > >> > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a >> > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. >>The >> > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session >> > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some >> > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is >>undefined >> in >> > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in >> savetofile.cfm. >> > >Why could this be happening? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355031 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
Your application timeout is seriously set to 10 seconds?? I suspect that would hose sessions pretty quickly, but not sure, since I've never set an app timeout so short. :-) HTH On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:18 AM, funand learning wrote: > > I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is the piece > of code > > applicationtimeout="#createtimespan(0, 0, 0, 10)#" > sessionmanagement="yes" > clientmanagement="no"> > > > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby wrote: > > > > > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There could > > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is that > > people forget to enable session management in their application. > > > > > > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" wrote: > > > > > > > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a > > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form > > > > > > > > > > > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. The > > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session > > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some > > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is undefined > in > > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in > savetofile.cfm. > > >Why could this be happening? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355030 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
On 3/15/2013 11:43 AM, fun and learning wrote: > > I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a session > variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form > > > > When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. The form > submits to the same page except there is a condition, > > > > > > The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session variable > exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some other people at > my office to test, they get 'Element host is undefined in session' on form's > submission.Looks like it is failing in savetofile.cfm. Why could this be > happening? CGI.REMOTE_HOST? Not sure you have to have an underscore, but that is what I thought. -- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/a4/60 Twitter: http://twitter.com/RogerTheGeek Google+: https://plus.google.com/117357905892731200369 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355029 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
I did enable session management using cfapplication tag. Below is the piece of code On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Bobby wrote: > > Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There could > be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is that > people forget to enable session management in their application. > > > On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" wrote: > > > > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a > >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form > > > > > > > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. The > >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, > > > > > > > > > > > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session > >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some > >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is undefined in > >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in savetofile.cfm. > >Why could this be happening? > > > > > > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355028 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Issue with Session scope
Sounds like your sessions aren't persisting across requests. There could be a couple of reasons but the most common, from what I've seen, is that people forget to enable session management in their application. On 3/15/13 10:43 AM, "fun and learning" wrote: > >I am converting a hidden variable to session variable. I am setting a >session variable when a page loads. The page consists of a form > > > >When the form is submitted, the session variable is saved to a file. The >form submits to the same page except there is a condition, > > > > > >The problem is when I submit the form on my computer, the session >variable exists and form submission works fine. But when I asked some >other people at my office to test, they get 'Element host is undefined in >session' on form's submission.Looks like it is failing in savetofile.cfm. >Why could this be happening? > > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:355027 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
