RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault
I totally agree. From: Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com Sent: 26 July 2011 14:07 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault Do we have to go through this again. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346382 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Specifically: One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within PHP. - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++. Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java - maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email, searching, web services, dhtml, reports ... So full of good ideas I could pop, - Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346353 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
wow that is some Sarcasm :-) On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically: One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within PHP. - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++. Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java - maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email, searching, web services, dhtml, reports ... So full of good ideas I could pop, - Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting concept. Seems like somebody could do the same for Java - maybe a tag based deal with some cool tie-ins to a database, email, searching, web services, dhtml, reports ... LOL! I think it's interesting that they chose C++ as their assembler. There is Caucho which implements PHP on top of the JVM but I don't know how well it works (I highlighted as part of my Scripting for ColdFusion project some years back, as a way of embedding PHP fragments in CFML pages and running them). On a sort of related note, given that many languages compile to Java bytecode these days, the Clojure project team (a modern Lisp on the JVM) has just released ClojureScript which is effectively a version of Clojure that compiles to JavaScript and can use the Google Closure Compiler / Library to create very small, highly optimized JS for use in the browser or on Node.js. You might not have consider JS as assembler either, unless you follow Scott Hanselman's blog: http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebSematicMarkupIsDeadCleanVsMachinecodedHTML.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/JavaScriptIsAssemblyLanguageForTheWebPart2MadnessOrJustInsanity.aspx The net result is the ability to write all of your web application code in a dialect of Clojure, on the server and on the client - and even give yourself the choice of Node.js or the JVM as the backend platform. There are even libraries for generating both CSS and HTML from pure Clojure if you feel inclined. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346327 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via BlueDragon ages ago). Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman chorno...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346328 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative, facebook, which was not full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. So myspace failed. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.comwrote: I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via BlueDragon ages ago). Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman chorno...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346329 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
I tweeted at author: @NewMktsAdvisors #ColdFusion is plenty flexible when used right. MySpace didn't know how: Morals from MySpaces Fall http://onforb.es/o3s66O On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Charlie Stell charlie.st...@gmail.comwrote: Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative, facebook, which was not full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. So myspace failed. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com wrote: I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via BlueDragon ages ago). Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman chorno...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346331 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
mysapce converted to .net and used BlueDragon.net for any CFML pages last I heard. So no coldfusion involved. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John M Bliss bliss.j...@gmail.com wrote: I tweeted at author: @NewMktsAdvisors #ColdFusion is plenty flexible when used right. MySpace didn't know how: Morals from MySpaces Fall http://onforb.es/o3s66O On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Charlie Stell charlie.st...@gmail.com wrote: Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. Absolutely. And to add to it - then came along an alternative, facebook, which was not full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. So myspace failed. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 6:16 AM, James Holmes james.hol...@gmail.com wrote: I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via BlueDragon ages ago). Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman chorno...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346332 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Do we have to go through this again. All the old timers here know this thread will now last for 2 weeks and refuse to die. Do a quick search on HOF for ColdFusion dead and you'll get 10 pages of results going back 10 years. The life support for this discussion is truly a medical miracle. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346334 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Do we have to go through this again. All the old timers here know this thread will now last for 2 weeks and refuse to die. +1 Kill it with fire. G! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.comwrote: Do we have to go through this again. All the old timers here know this thread will now last for 2 weeks and refuse to die. Do a quick search on HOF for ColdFusion dead and you'll get 10 pages of results going back 10 years. The life support for this discussion is truly a medical miracle. -Mark Mark A. Kruger, MCSE, CFG (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346335 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to debunk the supposition/accusation implied. Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote: May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346336 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
LOL, well he is a Wunker after all :-) On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to debunk the supposition/accusation implied. Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote: May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346338 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
I guess it's ColdFusion's fault also that Facebook is suffering from being locked into MySQL? http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/ Apparently MySQL was meant to be a large scale database. Who Knew? ;-) From what I understand, PHP is only used as the front end view, ann the code to do 'work' is c++. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:16 AM, James Holmes wrote: I guess when Google+ finally destroys Facebook, the same open source tools he's glorifying will have caused that failure. Regardless, Myspace hasn't run on CF for a long time (as suggested, they migrated to .NET via BlueDragon ages ago). Myspace failed because it was full of ugly sites with content no-one wanted to read. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 26 July 2011 18:00, Kevin Pepperman chorno...@gmail.com wrote: Just to add to that-- ColdFusion is responsible for the success of Bank of America as well as many other successful websites (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) Didn't MySpace convert to .NET at some point? -- /Kevin Pepperman *Never memorize what you can look up in books*. --Albert_Einstein ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346340 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault
#3 and the constant spam messages.. that did if for me. -Original Message- From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:41 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346341 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
It's. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Kevin Parker tras...@internode.on.netwrote: May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346342 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall Taking technology advice from Forbes is probably as bad an idea as taking capital investment advice from a programmer. And the author of that article is a marketer, primarily - taking any advice from a marketer is probably a bad idea in any case. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Go Steve! Retraction made: (Notethe comment thread below establishes that it was the inflexible implementation of ColdFusion, rather than the underlying platform itself, that created this problem) Well done sir. A professional though and though. G! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to debunk the supposition/accusation implied. Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote: May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346348 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
Dammit... A professional* through and through *Dyslexia is a biotch... Oh well, point made. * G! * On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: Go Steve! Retraction made: (Notethe comment thread below establishes that it was the inflexible implementation of ColdFusion, rather than the underlying platform itself, that created this problem) Well done sir. A professional though and though. G! On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Steve 'Cutter' Blades cold.fus...@cutterscrossing.com wrote: For those of us who know better (most everyone here) this is an opportunity. Go to the article, read the author's ill-informed mistake of a conclusion, and provide an educated and appropriate response to debunk the supposition/accusation implied. Don't continue the discussion here. Take it to the appropriate source. Steve 'Cutter' Blades Adobe Community Professional Adobe Certified Expert Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer http://blog.cutterscrossing.com Co-Author Learning Ext JS 3.2 Packt Publishing 2010 https://www.packtpub.com/learning-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book The best way to predict the future is to help create it On 7/26/2011 5:41 AM, Kevin Parker wrote: May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspaces-fall / ++ Kevin Parker Advanced Imaging e: webmas...@advancedimaging.com.au w: www.advancedimaging.com.au m: 0418 815 527 ++ http://au.linkedin.com/in/krparker ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346349 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Its ColdFusion's Fault
I told him to come over here and talk to some people who have ACTUAL knowledge of ColdFusion... -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwa...@figleaf.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:56 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault May be of interest for some readers... ColdFusion is responsible for the demise of MySpace (well one of the reasons anyway ;-) http://blogs.forbes.com/stephenwunker/2011/07/25/4-morals-from-myspace s-fall Taking technology advice from Forbes is probably as bad an idea as taking capital investment advice from a programmer. And the author of that article is a marketer, primarily - taking any advice from a marketer is probably a bad idea in any case. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://training.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software is a Veteran-Owned Small Business (VOSB) on GSA Schedule, and provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers, online, or onsite. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346350 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Its ColdFusion's Fault
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: http://gigaom.com/cloud/facebook-trapped-in-mysql-fate-worse-than-death/ It's worth pointing out that the person being interviewed, Michael Stonebraker, runs a database company that competes with MySQL (and others) and he's promoting his NewSQL database technology over _all_ current SQL and no-SQL solutions so he may be a tiny bit biased :) From what I understand, PHP is only used as the front end view, ann the code to do 'work' is c++. Facebook have developed a PHP to C++ translator called HipHop and they use that to convert their code and then compile it to native code to create a faster system: https://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/wiki/ Specifically: One of the explicit design goals leading into HipHop was the ability to continue writing complex logic directly within PHP. - so they do 'work' in PHP, they do not write C++. -- Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ Railo Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.getrailo.com/ Perfection is the enemy of the good. -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:346351 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
