RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-12 Thread Steve Pierce

More clarification, MDAC 2.5 SP1 is a full installation of MDAC. You don't
need to install 2.5 and then SP1. You would use 2.5 SP1 on either a W2K or
NT4 system to upgrade to the latest version no matter what current version
you have and you would use it if you were doing a fresh install and did not
have MDAC even installed.

Clear as Mud?

 - Steve

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 1:49 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


> This info is wrong. MDAC 2.5 Sp1 is for W2K and NT4.

To further clarify this, you don't download and install MDAC on Win2K,
because it's built into the operating system. Win2K comes with MDAC 2.5, and
Win2K SP1 bumps it to MDAC 2.5 SP1. On Windows NT, MDAC is a separate
component, which can be downloaded and installed from
http://www.microsoft.com/data/.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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Re: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-12 Thread Neil H.

Just to stir up more problems MDAC 2.6 comes with SQL 2000...

Thanks,

Neil

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> you wrote:
> >> MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge
>
> This info is wrong. MDAC 2.5 Sp1 is for W2K and NT4.
>
>  - Steve
>
> Steve Pierce, HDL
> "Co-Location starting $99 per month, no setup fee"
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>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CF-Talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Latest MDAC ??
>
>
> MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge that it is supporting OS Win2000
> Is it recommended to Win NT 4 also ?
>
> Does s.o. successfully running 2.5 (with or without SP 1)
> with CF 4.01 without problems ?
>
> Uwe
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:18 PM
> Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??
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> Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
> SP1 to 2.5 solves that?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??
>
>
> Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data
>
>  - Steve
>
> Steve Pierce, HDL
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>
>
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> Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??
>
>
> What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
> with ?
>
> 2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?
>
> Thanks Uwe
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Re: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-12 Thread CF-Talk

o.k.
I remember s.o. told me that MDAC 2.1 SP2 is definetely the final MDAC for
NT 4 and as 2.5 was released I thought it is only written for Win2000.
But now I know...
Thank you all.
Uwe
- Original Message -
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


> This info is wrong. MDAC 2.5 Sp1 is for W2K and NT4.

To further clarify this, you don't download and install MDAC on Win2K,
because it's built into the operating system. Win2K comes with MDAC 2.5, and
Win2K SP1 bumps it to MDAC 2.5 SP1. On Windows NT, MDAC is a separate
component, which can be downloaded and installed from
http://www.microsoft.com/data/.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-12 Thread Steve Pierce

If you can find anything from Allaire that says don't use MDAC 2.5 with CF 4
please let me know. I know of no such warning. Moreover we have used 2.5 on
a number of 4.0x production sites since early March.

We recently ran into a problem with 2.5 SP1 that appears to affect a very
small number of CFQUERY but other than that MDAC 2.5 seems to work very
well.

 - Steve



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:19 PM
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Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:41 AM
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Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

SD Solutions
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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-12 Thread Dave Watts

> This info is wrong. MDAC 2.5 Sp1 is for W2K and NT4.

To further clarify this, you don't download and install MDAC on Win2K,
because it's built into the operating system. Win2K comes with MDAC 2.5, and
Win2K SP1 bumps it to MDAC 2.5 SP1. On Windows NT, MDAC is a separate
component, which can be downloaded and installed from
http://www.microsoft.com/data/.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-12 Thread Steve Pierce

you wrote:
>> MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge

This info is wrong. MDAC 2.5 Sp1 is for W2K and NT4.

 - Steve

Steve Pierce, HDL
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-Original Message-
From: CF-Talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:45 PM
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Subject: Re: Latest MDAC ??


MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge that it is supporting OS Win2000
Is it recommended to Win NT 4 also ?

Does s.o. successfully running 2.5 (with or without SP 1)
with CF 4.01 without problems ?

Uwe
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

Steve Pierce, HDL
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

SD Solutions
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85435 Erding
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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Pierce

You can, it just costs $195 per call with Microsoft. 

 - Steve


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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 5:08 PM
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Thanks for clarifying this. I would love to get from MS that clear and easy.
Uwe

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


MDAC was not mainly developed for Win2000, it was the next release that the
MDAC group was working on and it was planned as a regular release for NT4
and W2K. IT shipped with Windows2000 and then was released as a standalone
product.

It really is needed for the next release of SQL2000 of which the early
testing of SQL2000 was on Win2000 and for Office 10 which is in late Alpha
testing right now. There will be a new MDAC with SQL2000 as well and unknown
how it will be released in conjunction with Office 10 which is not assigned
a year right now but is expected in 2001.

 - Steve


-Original Message-
From: CF-Talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Latest MDAC ??


MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge that it is supporting OS Win2000
Is it recommended to Win NT 4 also ?

Does s.o. successfully running 2.5 (with or without SP 1)
with CF 4.01 without problems ?

Uwe
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

Steve Pierce, HDL
"Co-Location starting $99 per month, no setup fee"
(734) 482-9682 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://HDL.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

SD Solutions
Lange Zeile 27
85435 Erding
Fon: 08122/903791
Fax: 08122/903792
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread CF-Talk

Thanks for clarifying this. I would love to get from MS that clear and easy.
Uwe

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


MDAC was not mainly developed for Win2000, it was the next release that the
MDAC group was working on and it was planned as a regular release for NT4
and W2K. IT shipped with Windows2000 and then was released as a standalone
product.

It really is needed for the next release of SQL2000 of which the early
testing of SQL2000 was on Win2000 and for Office 10 which is in late Alpha
testing right now. There will be a new MDAC with SQL2000 as well and unknown
how it will be released in conjunction with Office 10 which is not assigned
a year right now but is expected in 2001.

 - Steve


-Original Message-
From: CF-Talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Latest MDAC ??


MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge that it is supporting OS Win2000
Is it recommended to Win NT 4 also ?

Does s.o. successfully running 2.5 (with or without SP 1)
with CF 4.01 without problems ?

Uwe
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

Steve Pierce, HDL
"Co-Location starting $99 per month, no setup fee"
(734) 482-9682 | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://HDL.com



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

SD Solutions
Lange Zeile 27
85435 Erding
Fon: 08122/903791
Fax: 08122/903792
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Pierce

MDAC was not mainly developed for Win2000, it was the next release that the
MDAC group was working on and it was planned as a regular release for NT4
and W2K. IT shipped with Windows2000 and then was released as a standalone
product.

It really is needed for the next release of SQL2000 of which the early
testing of SQL2000 was on Win2000 and for Office 10 which is in late Alpha
testing right now. There will be a new MDAC with SQL2000 as well and unknown
how it will be released in conjunction with Office 10 which is not assigned
a year right now but is expected in 2001.

 - Steve


-Original Message-
From: CF-Talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Latest MDAC ??


MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge that it is supporting OS Win2000
Is it recommended to Win NT 4 also ?

Does s.o. successfully running 2.5 (with or without SP 1)
with CF 4.01 without problems ?

Uwe
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

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Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

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What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

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Re: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread CF-Talk

MDAC was mainly developed to my knowledge that it is supporting OS Win2000
Is it recommended to Win NT 4 also ?

Does s.o. successfully running 2.5 (with or without SP 1)
with CF 4.01 without problems ?

Uwe
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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

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Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

SD Solutions
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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Pierce

I don't know where you heard about 2.5 being recommended. If it came from
Allaire it was from a junior level guy. 2.5 is very much recommended not
only as it solves a denial of service attack but it is more stable and has
several memory leaks fixed. 2.5 does have problems and there is a good
chance some code may break. Forums has a problem with 2.5 but the fix is
minor. See www.forumspot.org for details.

Sp1 hasn't released their fix list so you may want to wait a while until you
see what has been fixed but I would highly recommend always being with the
very latest MDAC, it almost always fixes more problem then it solves.

 - Steve


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Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

-Original Message-
From: Steve Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

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Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

SD Solutions
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Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread mherbene

Are you sure?  For a while 2.5 was NOT recommended with CF 4.01, but maybe
SP1 to 2.5 solves that?

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Subject: RE: Latest MDAC ??


Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

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Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

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RE: Latest MDAC ??

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Pierce

Neither, use 2.5 SP1. which can be found at www.microsoft.com/data

 - Steve

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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 10:41 AM
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Subject: OT: Latest MDAC ??


What is the latest MDAC you would run CF 4.01 Server plus WIN NT 4 Server
with ?

2.5 or 2.1 SP2 ?

Thanks Uwe

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