Re: Mail Spooler Woes
You really need to find out where the bottleneck is. I listed possible bottlenecks in prior emails, but it is unclear if you have performed even cursory diagnostic checks yet. Have you already analyzed the network packets going between the CF server and the mail server, and if so what did you observe and how does this contrast to that equivalent network activity on the fast server? -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can send 5k emails to my CF8 servers and they each deliver about 1 piece of mail to my mail server every 3 seconds. I can send 5k emails to 1 of my CF7 servers and it sends out the all 5k email to my mail server in about 30 seconds. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can look to fix this problem or explain why CF7 is sending the mail from the cf spooler so much faster than my CF8 servers? All servers are Standard edition. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314312 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Mail Spooler Woes
These 3 servers are on the same network. Using the same mail server. I don't see how network traffic (since they are on the same network using the same router etc.) would make any difference. The only difference I can see if the version of the CF server. I am not seeing any bottlenecks just difference in the version of software. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler Woes You really need to find out where the bottleneck is. I listed possible bottlenecks in prior emails, but it is unclear if you have performed even cursory diagnostic checks yet. Have you already analyzed the network packets going between the CF server and the mail server, and if so what did you observe and how does this contrast to that equivalent network activity on the fast server? -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can send 5k emails to my CF8 servers and they each deliver about 1 piece of mail to my mail server every 3 seconds. I can send 5k emails to 1 of my CF7 servers and it sends out the all 5k email to my mail server in about 30 seconds. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can look to fix this problem or explain why CF7 is sending the mail from the cf spooler so much faster than my CF8 servers? All servers are Standard edition. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314313 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Mail Spooler Woes
Your emails suggest that you don't know what information diagnostics tools are able to give you (Hint: same network and same router are nearly irrelevant and there is always a bottleneck). It is possible for two servers with identical hardware, identical software, identical configurations running on the same network to function completely differently for reasons that would be impossible to determine without running diagnostic checks. Although it is curious that you have a router between your mail server and your ColdFusion server since that reveals a bit about how the network is set up. Getting rid of the router intermediary might help. -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These 3 servers are on the same network. Using the same mail server. I don't see how network traffic (since they are on the same network using the same router etc.) would make any difference. The only difference I can see if the version of the CF server. I am not seeing any bottlenecks just difference in the version of software. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler Woes You really need to find out where the bottleneck is. I listed possible bottlenecks in prior emails, but it is unclear if you have performed even cursory diagnostic checks yet. Have you already analyzed the network packets going between the CF server and the mail server, and if so what did you observe and how does this contrast to that equivalent network activity on the fast server? -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can send 5k emails to my CF8 servers and they each deliver about 1 piece of mail to my mail server every 3 seconds. I can send 5k emails to 1 of my CF7 servers and it sends out the all 5k email to my mail server in about 30 seconds. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can look to fix this problem or explain why CF7 is sending the mail from the cf spooler so much faster than my CF8 servers? All servers are Standard edition. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314318 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Mail Spooler Woes
They are all behind a router together. No routers in-between. I am basically looking to see if anyone else has run into the situation with CF8 Standard. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:05 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler Woes Your emails suggest that you don't know what information diagnostics tools are able to give you (Hint: same network and same router are nearly irrelevant and there is always a bottleneck). It is possible for two servers with identical hardware, identical software, identical configurations running on the same network to function completely differently for reasons that would be impossible to determine without running diagnostic checks. Although it is curious that you have a router between your mail server and your ColdFusion server since that reveals a bit about how the network is set up. Getting rid of the router intermediary might help. -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These 3 servers are on the same network. Using the same mail server. I don't see how network traffic (since they are on the same network using the same router etc.) would make any difference. The only difference I can see if the version of the CF server. I am not seeing any bottlenecks just difference in the version of software. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 2:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler Woes You really need to find out where the bottleneck is. I listed possible bottlenecks in prior emails, but it is unclear if you have performed even cursory diagnostic checks yet. Have you already analyzed the network packets going between the CF server and the mail server, and if so what did you observe and how does this contrast to that equivalent network activity on the fast server? -Mike Chabot On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 2:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can send 5k emails to my CF8 servers and they each deliver about 1 piece of mail to my mail server every 3 seconds. I can send 5k emails to 1 of my CF7 servers and it sends out the all 5k email to my mail server in about 30 seconds. Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can look to fix this problem or explain why CF7 is sending the mail from the cf spooler so much faster than my CF8 servers? All servers are Standard edition. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314321 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Mail Spooler Woes
They are all behind a router together. No routers in-between. I am basically looking to see if anyone else has run into the situation with CF8 Standard. I think you're missing Mike's point. It isn't clear that this is a problem with CF8 Standard, or with something else. Can you put CF7 and CF8 on a single machine, and see how they compare for you? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314324 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler Woes
It's funny you should suggest that. This one machine in particular had CF7 on it and we upgraded to CF8. It used to send mail fine before. :( -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:42 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler Woes They are all behind a router together. No routers in-between. I am basically looking to see if anyone else has run into the situation with CF8 Standard. I think you're missing Mike's point. It isn't clear that this is a problem with CF8 Standard, or with something else. Can you put CF7 and CF8 on a single machine, and see how they compare for you? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314325 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler
Ok I changed this to every 30 seconds and it still is sending mail from the spooler at about 1 every 3 - 5 seconds. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler In my opinion having the spool interval value at 5 seconds is contributing to the problem. If you need a spooling interval that narrow then there is a chance that you shouldn't be using spooling at all. If 5 seconds was clearly better than 15 seconds then Adobe would have made that the default. Set the spooling interval to a value such that the entire spool folder can be cleared within the interval time. If you dump 100,000 emails into the spool folder and it takes CF 60 seconds to clear them out, then your spool interval should be greater than 60 seconds or you will have multiple threads competing with each other without providing any meaningful improvements and stealing processing power away from servicing site visitors. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't increasing the spool interval just increase my problem? -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:53 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler The 5 second spool interval is a too quick if you are sending large batches of emails. This might be contributing to the problem. If I was confronted with this situation I would run diagnostic tests to find out where the bottleneck is. It could be the hard drive, the CPU, the network, the mail server, the ColdFusion available thread count, etc. If you have a second server that is faster then one idea is to use that second server for the bulk emails. Offloading maintenance tasks to a secondary server is a common optimization technique. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have it set to every 5 seconds which is the fastest amount. There is no option for to disk or to memory in the Standard version. I think this is an enterprise feature only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314276 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler
It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. -Original Message- From: Robert Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:30 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler Is it going to the CFMAIL queue quickly? It may not be a CF issue. It may be throttle a setting on the mail server out queue. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler
Is there a setting in the CF8 files to look for? I don't understanf why CF7 spools it out fast and CF8 doesn't. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:23 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler One email every five seconds is much slower then I would expect. Something is wrong somewhere. I would run typical diagnostics checks to determine where the bottleneck is. -Mike Chabot On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon the heels of my CFMail tag questions I have run some tests. I have a CF8 Standard server and a CFMX7 Standard server that I tested this on. I monitored the CF8 spool folder for a couple of hours. It sent 1 piece of mail every 5 seconds. So when I have a clients newsletter that goes out it takes forever and backs up anything else sent out after that. As a test I moved out 800 pieces of cfmail from my CF8 Mail Spool folder. I then FTPed those files over to the Spool folder on my CFMX7 server. All 800 of them were sent to my mail server within about 30 seconds. So my question is why is my CF8 spooling 1 message every 5 seconds and my CFMX7 server spooling them out to my mail server MUCH faster? Both machines are sending mail to the same mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314188 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler
In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314189 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler
I have it set to every 5 seconds which is the fastest amount. There is no option for to disk or to memory in the Standard version. I think this is an enterprise feature only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314190 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Mail Spooler
The 5 second spool interval is a too quick if you are sending large batches of emails. This might be contributing to the problem. If I was confronted with this situation I would run diagnostic tests to find out where the bottleneck is. It could be the hard drive, the CPU, the network, the mail server, the ColdFusion available thread count, etc. If you have a second server that is faster then one idea is to use that second server for the bulk emails. Offloading maintenance tasks to a secondary server is a common optimization technique. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have it set to every 5 seconds which is the fastest amount. There is no option for to disk or to memory in the Standard version. I think this is an enterprise feature only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314191 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Mail Spooler
Wouldn't increasing the spool interval just increase my problem? -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:53 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler The 5 second spool interval is a too quick if you are sending large batches of emails. This might be contributing to the problem. If I was confronted with this situation I would run diagnostic tests to find out where the bottleneck is. It could be the hard drive, the CPU, the network, the mail server, the ColdFusion available thread count, etc. If you have a second server that is faster then one idea is to use that second server for the bulk emails. Offloading maintenance tasks to a secondary server is a common optimization technique. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have it set to every 5 seconds which is the fastest amount. There is no option for to disk or to memory in the Standard version. I think this is an enterprise feature only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314192 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Mail Spooler
In my opinion having the spool interval value at 5 seconds is contributing to the problem. If you need a spooling interval that narrow then there is a chance that you shouldn't be using spooling at all. If 5 seconds was clearly better than 15 seconds then Adobe would have made that the default. Set the spooling interval to a value such that the entire spool folder can be cleared within the interval time. If you dump 100,000 emails into the spool folder and it takes CF 60 seconds to clear them out, then your spool interval should be greater than 60 seconds or you will have multiple threads competing with each other without providing any meaningful improvements and stealing processing power away from servicing site visitors. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't increasing the spool interval just increase my problem? -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:53 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler The 5 second spool interval is a too quick if you are sending large batches of emails. This might be contributing to the problem. If I was confronted with this situation I would run diagnostic tests to find out where the bottleneck is. It could be the hard drive, the CPU, the network, the mail server, the ColdFusion available thread count, etc. If you have a second server that is faster then one idea is to use that second server for the bulk emails. Offloading maintenance tasks to a secondary server is a common optimization technique. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have it set to every 5 seconds which is the fastest amount. There is no option for to disk or to memory in the Standard version. I think this is an enterprise feature only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314193 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Mail Spooler
I'll give this a shot. Thanks for the advice. -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:51 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler In my opinion having the spool interval value at 5 seconds is contributing to the problem. If you need a spooling interval that narrow then there is a chance that you shouldn't be using spooling at all. If 5 seconds was clearly better than 15 seconds then Adobe would have made that the default. Set the spooling interval to a value such that the entire spool folder can be cleared within the interval time. If you dump 100,000 emails into the spool folder and it takes CF 60 seconds to clear them out, then your spool interval should be greater than 60 seconds or you will have multiple threads competing with each other without providing any meaningful improvements and stealing processing power away from servicing site visitors. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't increasing the spool interval just increase my problem? -Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:53 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Mail Spooler The 5 second spool interval is a too quick if you are sending large batches of emails. This might be contributing to the problem. If I was confronted with this situation I would run diagnostic tests to find out where the bottleneck is. It could be the hard drive, the CPU, the network, the mail server, the ColdFusion available thread count, etc. If you have a second server that is faster then one idea is to use that second server for the bulk emails. Offloading maintenance tasks to a secondary server is a common optimization technique. -Mike Chabot On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have it set to every 5 seconds which is the fastest amount. There is no option for to disk or to memory in the Standard version. I think this is an enterprise feature only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:57 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Mail Spooler In ColdFusion Administrator what is your Spool Interval setting? I believe it defaults to 15 seconds. Also, are you spooling your messages to disk or memory? ~Brad Original Message Subject: RE: Mail Spooler From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, October 21, 2008 11:44 am To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com It goes into the CF Spooler just fine. It just takes forever to go from the spool folder to my actual mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314196 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Mail Spooler
That's something to ask Adobe. Unless they published a doc somewhere with the reason they are the only ones that will know. Wil On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon the heels of my CFMail tag questions I have run some tests. I have a CF8 Standard server and a CFMX7 Standard server that I tested this on. I monitored the CF8 spool folder for a couple of hours. It sent 1 piece of mail every 5 seconds. So when I have a clients newsletter that goes out it takes forever and backs up anything else sent out after that. As a test I moved out 800 pieces of cfmail from my CF8 Mail Spool folder. I then FTPed those files over to the Spool folder on my CFMX7 server. All 800 of them were sent to my mail server within about 30 seconds. So my question is why is my CF8 spooling 1 message every 5 seconds and my CFMX7 server spooling them out to my mail server MUCH faster? Both machines are sending mail to the same mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314163 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Mail Spooler
One email every five seconds is much slower then I would expect. Something is wrong somewhere. I would run typical diagnostics checks to determine where the bottleneck is. -Mike Chabot On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon the heels of my CFMail tag questions I have run some tests. I have a CF8 Standard server and a CFMX7 Standard server that I tested this on. I monitored the CF8 spool folder for a couple of hours. It sent 1 piece of mail every 5 seconds. So when I have a clients newsletter that goes out it takes forever and backs up anything else sent out after that. As a test I moved out 800 pieces of cfmail from my CF8 Mail Spool folder. I then FTPed those files over to the Spool folder on my CFMX7 server. All 800 of them were sent to my mail server within about 30 seconds. So my question is why is my CF8 spooling 1 message every 5 seconds and my CFMX7 server spooling them out to my mail server MUCH faster? Both machines are sending mail to the same mail server. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314165 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Mail Spooler
Is it going to the CFMAIL queue quickly? It may not be a CF issue. It may be throttle a setting on the mail server out queue. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite 100 Hauppauge NY 11788 T : 631.231.6600 Ext. 119 F : 631.434.7022 www.austin-williams.com Great advertising can't be either/or... It must be . ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:314166 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
