RE: Memory Hog!

2000-05-15 Thread Dave Watts

> Okay, well that's completely unacceptable.  I'm using CF 4.5
> and I haven't run one script since I rebooted, and it's using
> 15 megs of ram. I am also going to be offering it in a shared
> hosting environment, and 180 megs of unacceptable also. I checked
> MS' Site and they are having problems with Win2k leaking memory
> in the first place and I tried to get the SP1 for 2k but they are
> still in beta with it.  It's got to be a mem leak because homesite
> is using 22,000k and sql server hit 80,000k with VERY light usage.
> If cf 4.5 uses that much memory by default, I'm going to have to
> switch back to asp.

CF 4.5.x doesn't use that much by default; it depends on what you're doing,
and how much stuff you load into memory. For example, to enhance application
performance, you might decide to cache recordsets in CF. This is a good
thing, performance-wise, but if you do this, CF will have to store them in
memory. Likewise, some database drivers tend to require lots of memory to do
something, and afterwards, CF won't release the memory in the assumption
that it will be needed later. This isn't an issue, as long as there aren't
any memory leaks within CF or within any components used by CF. I'm fairly
confident that there aren't any memory leaks in CF itself; I've done a bit
of testing for that. I'm not confident about database components in general,
though.

As for Win2K, I can't say anything about how CF runs on it in a production
environment. I run it on my laptop, and it works fine, but I don't get that
much traffic on my laptop.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Re: Memory Hog!

2000-05-15 Thread Jake Hileman

Okay, well that's completely unacceptable.  I'm using CF 4.5 and I haven't
run one script since I rebooted, and it's using 15 megs of ram.  I am also
going to be offering it in a shared hosting environment, and 180 megs of
unacceptable also.  I checked MS' Site and they are having problems with
Win2k leaking memory in the first place and I tried to get the SP1 for 2k
but they are still in beta with it.  It's got to be a mem leak because
homesite is using 22,000k and sql server hit 80,000k with VERY light usage.
If cf 4.5 uses that much memory by default, I'm going to have to switch back
to asp.

jake
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Subject: RE: Memory Hog!


> > I thought there was some rumblings about win2k and the
> > ODBC/MDAC that CF installs on win2k with CF Enterprise
>
> That's a different problem. Versions before CF 4.5.1 would install MDAC
2.1
> on Win2K, even though it has MDAC 2.5 already.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Memory Hog!

2000-05-14 Thread Dave Watts

> I thought there was some rumblings about win2k and the
> ODBC/MDAC that CF installs on win2k with CF Enterprise

That's a different problem. Versions before CF 4.5.1 would install MDAC 2.1
on Win2K, even though it has MDAC 2.5 already.

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Re: Memory Hog!

2000-05-14 Thread Stephen M. Aylor

I thought there was some rumblings about win2k and the ODBC/MDAC that CF
installs on win2k with CF Enterprise

Maybe this is an ODBC issue?

Steve
- Original Message -
From: Jake Hileman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 08:02 PM
Subject: Memory Hog!


> Just checked it again, right now without me even running any CF
> applications, cfserver.exe has reached 38,780k of RAM.  I'm using Windows
NT
> 2000.  Also, I'm having the same problem with SQL Server.. I'm barely
using
> it, and it hit 70 megs of ram.  Hmmm, inetinfo.exe and everything else
stays
> under 10 or so.  Actually homesite.exe sometimes hits 30 megs of ram...
> think there is a memory problem in win2k?
>
> Let me know,
>
> Jake
>
>  - Original Message -
> From: "David Hannum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 8:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi
>
>
> > >And cold fusion eats up 10x the memory that ASP did.  I
> > > haven't even really run any programs except the sample ones and the
> > > cfserver.exe was using 30 megs of ram on nt2k
> >
> > Jake,
> >
> > It's gotta be something in your setup.  We use CF for some very
processor
> > intensive apps, and we NEVER reach anywhere near
> > that kind of RAM usage.  The most I've ever seen the meter hit was about
> > 18meg - and I had the thing caught in a loop.  (NT4.0 SP5 running CF
> > Enterprise 4.01).  I think you'll find CF quite capable of running the
> > "complex" tasks mentioned by Steve as well as ASP.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Jake Hileman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 7:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: Hi
> >
> >
> > > Boom!  That's exactly why I switched... right now I'm looking for a
good
> > > resource.  ASP has activerserverpages.com, aspin.com etc.. cold fusion
> > falls
> > > short in that area.  And cold fusion eats up 10x the memory that ASP
> did.
> > I
> > > haven't even really run any programs except the sample ones and the
> > > cfserver.exe was using 30 megs of ram on nt2k.  My inetinfo which is
> > running
> > > asp apps while we speak was only using 7 megs.  :-(  That really
stinks.
> > > Anyhow I'm looking for some resources and a good, free or inexpensive
> > > shopping cart.. one like www.ihtmlmerchant.com .. something comparable
> to
> > > that!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jake
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Steve Minton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 6:59 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > > The reasons that I decided to turn to CF are:
> > > >
> > > >   1) While ASP is great for complex programming tasks, it is awkward
> and
> > > > unwieldy for simple tasks such as merely presenting data from a
> > database.
> > > >
> > > >   2) Whilst considering CF, I also took a brief look at PHP3,
although
> I
> > > > found that this would not be suitable for my needs, as its
integration
> > > with
> > > > MySQL is too complex. I also primarily work on a Windows based
> platform
> > > and
> > > > therefore prefer the ODBC support offered by this system.
> > > >
> > > >   3) Finally, CF actually looks *fun* to use! It has a good
structured
> > > > development environment (CF Studio) which is where ASP sorely falls
> > > short -
> > > > although there are rumours that MM Ultradev will go some way to
> > resolving
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Steve Minton
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tom Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 14 May 2000 21:46
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Hi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Steve:
> > > > I'm sure everyone wants to know... what are the specific reasons you
> > > decided
> > > > on CF?
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Steve Minton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Cf-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 4:08 PM
> > > > Subject: Hi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Everyone
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm new to this list and just thought I'd briefly introduce
myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > My name is Steve Minton and I am a Senior Web Designer/Developer,
> with
> > > > > Development skills in ASP (3 years). However, I felt the time had
> come
> > > to
> > > > > learn something new, and decided upon Cold Fusion.
> > > > >
> > > > > You will therefore be hearing a lot from me over the coming weeks
> ;-).
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course if anyone has any ASP queries then feel free to give me
a
> > > shout.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Steve Minton
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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